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RE: WTF No Trial Period Again?
Also, WTF is the MEMORY SIZE for this application? Article nor site lists any.
RE: WTF No Trial Period Again?
RE: WTF No Trial Period Again?
What part of "No Trial Period" don't you understand?
If there is one, please point me to it, because I sure as hell couldn't find it.
RE: WTF No Trial Period Again?
I didn't look into into enough to see that there wasn't a demo.
RE: WTF No Trial Period Again?
I'm glad to see Kinoma still alive & kicking after a period of relative dormancy.
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RE: WTF No Trial Period Again?
hkk - can you or Ryan get Kinoma to give you a free trial of 4 EX for a review? This no trial BS is getting ridiculous.
RE: WTF No Trial Period Again?
I'll see what I can do. If they are not offering it through the PIC software store, then Ryan and I have to appeal to their willingness to grace us with a reg code or an evaluation version and some companies are funny about that sort of stuff.
The trend towards the remaining "name" or "big ticket" Palm OS software being released with no trial version available (or a trial that's so limited you cannot use it enough to gauge functionality) is worrying.
But then again you are seeing a lot of PC games without demos beforehand etc. I suppose it's a cost-cutting measure for the companies as a demo version is one more thing to troubleshoot/debug/test/host...but what it saves them in upfront $ it's likely to cost them tenfold in sales down the road.
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Atten: GEKKO RE: The Bloomberg Stream
Can it stream this???
I just upgrade my Kinoma Player 3 and Mac OSX Producer 3 - Both to version 4. They Charge $14.99 each (Great Deal) The New Version is worth it.
I did try the link here for Bloomberg Stream, and I get "Unsupported Media Format". Just wanted to let you know that someone did try this. Other then that I can stream a ton of other things, Google Video, UTube, even my own online movies I have posted on a training site I built. This has a FANTASTIC New Interface, and the Black format is a welcome feature for the interface, the white was just to bright prior. The player still has that white line to the outside of the Player window - I know that is a Palm Issue. I thought I had heard that this was resolved (White Line Border) by some App though. I have never found it.
ScottG
RE: WTF No Trial Period Again?
Scott G - Thanks for trying.
It looks like I need to go Windows:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=20556
RE: WTF No Trial Period Again?
RE: WTF No Trial Period Again?
RE: WTF No Trial Period Again?
V-Lo - thanks for the info.
Any chance of this Bloomberg codec ever being supported by a PalmOS player?
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RE: WTF No Trial Period Again?
Flash Video?
RE: Flash Video?
The press release says:
"Kinoma Player 4 EX supports Flash Video (.flv) files containing the Flash H.263 variant and MP3 audio. Kinoma Player 4 EX does not support Flash vector graphics or interactivity."
Good to see
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Can it stream this...
http://www.warpradio.com/player/embed.asp?id=14147&gatewayID=71
If so, a TX and Kinoma 4 will be a Christmas gift to my dad this year! If not... no sale. Try this out for me if anyone can...
princehifi
RE: Can it stream this...
RE: Can it stream this...
RE: Can it stream this...
How did you dig that address out? I had to view several page sources just to get the address I provided...
I'm very impressed that Kinoma has accomplished Windows Media streaming on the Palm. Well done. I will purchase.
princehifi
RE: Can it stream this...
Google Video / YouTube
Google VIdeo for Palm Page! mgvids.com
Easy to navigate google video interface for Palm devices. Search videos. Download in Mp4 or AVI format (where avaliable). (incase you don't have an FLV player)
Or STREAM FLV with Kinoma 4EX easily with one click!
I'm working on a similar type of deal for Youtube. Give it a week or so. I just added Kinoma to my website today. Currently works by passing an M3U file (make sure kinoma is associated with the file type).
This is new so I'll try to make it even nicer and work out any minor bugs that may still be in the mix ;-)
Feedback appreciated...It took me a long time to write the CGI for this...especially considering I didn't know PHP at all before hand and had to learn it for this (it's an easy language thougb)
Stephen M Packard, Jr.
RE: Google VIdeo for Palm Page! mgvids.com
I used resco explorer and made kinoma the default handler of m3u files, so I click the link and choose "save the file to device", then "save and open file", ptunes pops up and attempts to play the file. Am I doing something wrong here? Btw I'm using a TX not a Treo.
RE: Google VIdeo for Palm Page! mgvids.com
it seems maybe M3U was not the best way to pass the files. I'm going to try changing it to a Kinoma media bookmark or a PLS file.
I'll try to play around with it a bit in the next few days and see if I can work something out that won't have this problem
Stephen M Packard, Jr.
RE: Google VIdeo for Palm Page! mgvids.com
(Replaced M3U file with ASX file...by default should open in Kinoma 4 EX)
:-D
Stephen M Packard, Jr.
RE: Google VIdeo for Palm Page! mgvids.com
A bit of a roundabout way, but no problem, it works! Good job! Hope to see the youtube version soon!
RE: Google VIdeo for Palm Page! mgvids.com
It has to do with the file associations between Palm OS and blazer's Helper Apps.
Apparently different versions and such handle it differently. Kinoma *should* grab the association adn make it work smoothly.
Apparently, however this is not always the case. You could try changing the extension association using Reseco Explorer or something similar.
Hopefully, if Kinoma 4 is the default asx handler, it'll allow you to open it without going through that.
I'm not sure getting it to be seemless on everyone's device is realistic...
Stephen M Packard, Jr.
RE: Google VIdeo for Palm Page! mgvids.com
Great work! Really appreciate the effort you put into this, browsing for feeds on google video is now a blast!
RE: Google VIdeo for Palm Page! mgvids.com
weixler
thats what she said!
RE: Google VIdeo for Palm Page! mgvids.com
it doesnt seem to find the music on my card cause of what directory i put it in, i think. other than that....it has anti pirating activation, online one click updates, winamp-esque looks, kinoma is planning on premium channels by the free premium channel preview on there, wouldnt be surprised if something i tunes style was in the future. had trouble loading youtube.
but any of these problems could be because i am in the boonies of tennesee at the present, where the term 'bandwidth' only refers to how fat your country band's guitarist is. 3 kilobytes a second.
thats what she said!
RE: Google VIdeo for Palm Page! mgvids.com
Should throw ya right back
Stephen M Packard, Jr.
RE: Google VIdeo for Palm Page! mgvids.com
I know you said plans for 'youtube'... what about www.metacafe.com ?
Anyhow, its brilliant!
julian
Cali!
RE: Google VIdeo for Palm Page! mgvids.com
here are some bugs i found.
1. i cant get some .asx files to work, most do
2. have not gotten one .wmv to work.
3. i downloaded a .mp4, not found by program searching media folder.
4.program will not find on scan or open from net .asf files at all
thats just in relation to .asx, .mp4, .wmv, and .asf.
*********** havent tried m3a23gpp, flash video, quicktime movie or vr so can not speak to them, or mqv files.****************
most everything i went thru so far in the guide seems to work, which is not in any way related to the bugs above, the guide seems to be tailor suited to work around the bugs, the guide is pretty flawless, except youtube and cnn videos, but its a big guide, so there have to be more.
more bug description-if i click on a .asx file from the 'files' program, or media folder, it will say no programs know how to open this kind of file (.asx) but if i go into kinoma it will scan, find it, as long as i saved it in media folder, and has no problem with it. downloading of an .asx and kinoma recognized as file association handler is not problematic.
i get a similar message trying to open cnn and youtube video in the guide.
for some reason the device (t5) would re-name it. example.asx would become example.asf.
audio on podcasts and videos play in mono only most of the time, going in and out, on a fresh startup of the program they usually play in stereo for a little while then cut out, i thought my headphones were broken.
i went to many wmp sites and couldnt get a one to work.
this is too neat a program, ...to not support it..... and that goes to the developer and the palm users, i would have commented sooner, about bugs, but 1. i was listening to podcasts and google videos. and i didnt want to scare people off from getting it.
when do you expect an update to be avalible?
thats what she said!
RE: Google VIdeo for Palm Page! mgvids.com
Well I can't make a fullblown site for every media site :-P
Actually...there are some generic FLV downloading sites around. Just copy and paste the URL of the site you want to get the FLV's from and it'll link it for you.
(sorry..I don't have it on hand. I'm on my Treo now)
Stephen M Packard, Jr.
(Degree of) integration EX4 Player <--> Blazer 4.3 on Palm Lifedr
http://www.kinoma.com/index/player4
Kinoma website only mentions Blazer 4.5 bundled with newer Treos; and there doesn't seem to be any upgrade path of it for earlier models.
So, after installing EX4, when youtube.com link clicked in Blazer, will it seamlessly launch the Kinoma app, fetch and render that content?
Or will one have to go through a manual, and seemingly recurrent, manual re/configuration, explicit file-aliasing and whatnot?
(and the same mis/behavior for Google Video?)
On the fence...
Thanks!
Mia
RE: Finally
this is funny - literally a week or so before the Pre release, Bloomberg Radio updated their stream format and i was finally streaming it on my Centro. i was so happy i could finally do it after all these years. so literally i'd only been streaming it for a few days - after all those years of waiting and disappointment. so on Pre release day i go and buy the brand new advanced super duper webOS Palm Pre and i give away my old Centro to my sister. a few hours later i go to stream Bloomberg Radio on the Pre - and the Pre can't support it! i was like WTF Are you kidding me??????????
RE: Finally
this is funny - literally a week or so before the Pre release, Bloomberg Radio updated their stream format and i was finally streaming it on my Centro. i was so happy i could finally do it after all these years. so literally i'd only been streaming it for a few days - after all those years of waiting and disappointment. so on Pre release day i go and buy the brand new advanced super duper webOS Palm Pre and i give away my old Centro to my sister. a few hours later i go to stream Bloomberg Radio on the Pre - and the Pre can't support it! i was like WTF Are you kidding me??????????
Doesn't that say more about Bloomberg than it does about Palm?
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RE: Finally
no because at least Bloomberg is moving forward - and Palm is moving backwards - in oh so many ways.
RE: Finally
LOL. You poor bugger. Did you return your Pre already?
RE: Finally Bloomberg Radio
you can play via built in Kinoma for free OR purchase ptunes 5.0 for BACKGROUND play -
How do I manually add an Internet Radio station to Pocket Tunes?
Applies to BOTH Palm and Windows Mobile devices
You can manually add the web address of an Internet station in the 'Internet Radio' section of Pocket Tunes. (Ensure that the station you are adding streams in either MP3, AAC+, Ogg or WAV format. these are the formats Pocket Tunes currently supports for streaming)
1. Open Pocket Tunes and go to the Internet Radio area (enter the letter 'Q' to jump directly there or select 'Internet Radio' from the 'Tools' menu)
2. From the drop down, select which Group you want to put the station in e.g. 'Techno' or 'World' etc.
3. Now open the menu and select 'Add...'
4. Enter a name for the station, anything you'd like that will identify the station you are adding
5. Now enter the URL. You may need to visit the station's site on your PC to locate the URL for the stream.
6. Once you have entered the URL press OK
Now all you need to do to play the station is select it from the list and press 'Play' and the station will play.
http://www.normsoft.com/kb/idx/24/240/article/
RE: Finally
RE: Finally
1. that would require carrying/managing/fighting/fumbling YET ANOTHER DEVICE.
2. reception is always loud and clear when streaming.
RE: Finally
RE: Finally
yes - exchanged it for a new Centro within 48 hours. didn't you read my Pre posts here?
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WTF No Trial Period Again?
Can it stream this???
http://www.bloomberg.com/streams/audio/radio_live.asx
WTF?!!!