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Treo iPod NanoEngadget are reporting that a Brazilian retailer has been what looks to be a Treo-branded iPod Nano knockoff in a sickly hue of lime green. No word on specs or features other than it looks like a cheap Nano clone without the touch-sensitive scroll wheel.

The Treo logo on the unit and its packaging is identical to the one used by Palm. This highly illicit device has a sales price for $270. The Chinese knockoff factories have manage to do something Palm has yet to pull off on a Treo; this unit appears to be sporting a full-size stereo headphone jack. (also via MobilityBeat)

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It's too Innovative to be a Palm Treo

Gekko @ 12/16/2006 4:52:06 PM # Q

Hence, it MUST be a knockoff!


It is the 3.5mm headphone jack that gives it away.
ThunderCracker @ 12/17/2006 1:03:49 AM # Q
A well known law of the universe says that we can't have a standard headphone jack in a treo.

Palm III --> Compaq Areo 1550 --> Palm IIIc --> Visor Edge --> Casio EM500 --> Sony T415 --> Compaq 3670 --> Dell Axim x5 Advanced --> Sony SJ20 --> Palm T|E --> HP H1945/T610 --> Dell Axim X30 --> Axim X50v --> Treo 600 --> Palm T|X --> Blackberry 6230 --> Treo 650 --> Blackberry 7100t --> BB 7290 --> Samsung Blackjack
RE: It's too Innovative to be a Palm Treo
joad @ 12/17/2006 2:01:08 AM # Q
When is the CDMA version coming out? I'm ready to upgrade... 3.5mm jack clinches it!

RE: It's too Innovative to be a Palm Treo
freakout @ 12/17/2006 7:52:00 AM # Q
Wow. That colour is... surreal. Surreal like flamingo vomit. Now we know why there wasn't a Lime 680...
RE: It's too Innovative to be a Palm Treo
VampireLestat @ 12/17/2006 8:48:53 PM # Q
hahahaha I was trying to find the words to describe the horrible color.

"flamingo vomit" is a great analogy.

ROTFL

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If thats all the Palm knockoffs you know, you dont look far

Tamog @ 12/17/2006 11:27:01 AM # Q
Hi Folks,
a user posted a link to a chinese wholesale website recently - and they offer knockoffs of the Palm Z22 and the LifeDrive:

http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2006/12/13/the-palm-z22-respawned-as-mp3-player/

The interesting thing about the "Z22" is that it seems to have a rectangular screen - if a cheap chinese company can say goodbye to the small square screen on handhelds, why can't Palm?

Just my 2 cents - feel free to post about every other knockoff you know!

Find out more about the Palm OS in my blog:
http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com

RE: If thats all the Palm knockoffs you know, you dont look far
legodude522 @ 12/17/2006 9:15:47 PM # Q
There was a fake z22 MP3 player on PIC forums somewhere. I wasn't able to dig it up :-(

Palm m125 > Palm Zire 71 > Tapwave Zodiac 1 > Palm Zire 72 > Sharp Zaurus SL-C1000 + 4gb MicroDrive + Palm Tungsten T|3 (1100mah)
My T|3 is too [i]sexy[/i] for me.
RE: If thats all the Palm knockoffs you know, you dont look far
legodude522 @ 12/17/2006 9:24:09 PM # Q
Found it in Off Topic! http://www.palminfocenter.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31711

Palm m125 > Palm Zire 71 > Tapwave Zodiac 1 > Palm Zire 72 > Sharp Zaurus SL-C1000 + 4gb MicroDrive + Palm Tungsten T|3 (1100mah)
My T|3 is too [i]sexy[/i] for me.
RE: If thats all the Palm knockoffs you know, you dont look far
Tuckermaclain @ 12/18/2006 9:17:34 AM # Q
It's the first Palm with an OLED screen! See! You all thought innovation at Palm was dead.

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Intellectual property means NOTHING in China. Access is toast...

The_Voice_of_Reason @ 12/17/2006 3:44:17 PM # Q
Access is a JAPANESE company that swallowed an AMERICAN company that happened to have a Chinese division/subsidiary. How likely is it that the Chinese government will protect the interests of Japanese/American Access? Even if Access miraculously gets ALP-OS into a REAL device by 2008, their IP will be immediately reverse engineered and used by a REAL Chinese company. The Chinese government won't even lift a finger to help the "foreigners".

Access could never have pulled this off - even if they hadn't bungled the creation of ALP-OS/NetFrontLinux. And how long will it take before versions of Opera and other mobile browsers grab most of Access' customers for its main (yes, not only) business? Probably 12 - 18 months. Access is currently in the same untenable position that Palm was in circa 2002-03 before Handspring's Treo Saviour showed up and saved Palm's sorry a$$.

TVoR

RE: Intellectual property means NOTHING in China. Access is toast...
mikecane @ 12/17/2006 7:30:28 PM # Q
Cult Leader Of The Eleven-Year-Olds Speaks.

Skippy the Pathetic.

RE: Intellectual property means NOTHING in China. Access is toast
PenguinPowered @ 12/17/2006 9:16:34 PM # Q
Actually, nobody reverse engineers the software bits that will be Access proprietary in an ALP smartphone. That takes as long as rolling your version.

Now wandering in to Nanjing and stealing the source code, that's more likely to happen, the way software pirating goes on in China.

But the China market isn't simply about what software you have, it's about what your history is. CMS already has mPhone on the market. They're a known quantity. That's what made them valuable to Access.

True, the clock is ticking that value away, like sand through an hour glass, as other players take on the Chinese market.

At least the electric sheep are taking their time and using up their window as well.


May You Live in Interesting Times

RE: Intellectual property means NOTHING in China. Access is toast...
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 12/18/2006 5:55:43 AM # Q
Now wandering in to Nanjing and stealing the source code, that's more likely to happen, the way software pirating goes on in China.

That's how the Chinese "reverse engineer", Marty. Not hard when you don't have to worry about minor details like "laws". Just ask Microsoft what they feel about the Chinese...

But the China market isn't simply about what software you have, it's about what your history is. CMS already has mPhone on the market. They're a known quantity. That's what made them valuable to Access.

History is just that - HISTORY. The cellphone industry is anything but static - both in term of OS development and hardware development. Just as Palm has showed us by failing to capitalize on their early lead with the Treo 600 and simply sitting still the past 3 years, Access' evanescent early advantage is disappearing into the Vapors. $320 million? Indeed. Access got played - Emperor China MobileSoft has no clothes. CMS in the hands of "foreigers" will be quickly pushed aside in favor of similar wholly domestic, cheaper solutions. Access will NEVER make its investment back (they were lucky to get that $44 million from Palm for the decrepit, otherwise-worthless PalmOS 5 IP). You're going to lose our bet, Marty. Access will either be bankrupt or sold by 2008.


TVoR

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Glade Trio

Gekko @ 12/17/2006 5:46:18 PM # Q

just saw a commercial for this knockoff -

http://www.glade.com/new.aspx#trio


RE: Glade Trio
ackmondual @ 12/20/2006 10:18:53 AM # Q
plug it in, plug it in.

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