Comments on: StyleTap Released for Windows Mobile Smartphone

StyleTap has announced that a preview version of StyleTap Platform for Windows Mobile Smartphone edition is now available. StyleTap Platform enables the world's largest base of mobile applications, the estimated 30,000 applications written to run on Palm OS, to run on some of the latest Windows Mobile Smartphones, including the Motorola Q, T-Mobile Dash and the Samsung Blackjack.

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Not again.

LiveFaith @ 1/19/2007 6:23:35 PM #

Let's see now. Is Palm dead again? :-
Pat Horne

RE: Not again.

twrock @ 1/19/2007 6:58:38 PM #

Cool product, especially if you are making a move from Palm to WinMob. ACCESS/PalmSource needs to borrow a few of those Apple lawyers.

I'm still waiting for the mythical color HandEra.
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RE: Not again.

expalmuser @ 1/22/2007 5:36:02 PM #

The lawyers should already be on it. ACCESS ran compatibility studies on StyleTap in the past, and the compatibility with OS 5 SDK was amazingly good. Translation: most of your apps will really run just fine, as long as they don't do anything fancy.
The big question is, of course, whether ACCESS/Palmsource will allow this to continue.

RE: Not again.

twrock @ 1/22/2007 8:39:28 PM #

Translation: most of your apps will really run just fine, as long as they don't do anything fancy.

Yes, I've heard that this is true. Interestingly, I looked through the "certified" compatibility list below, and didn't see even one app that I currently have on my Palm. Maybe most of the apps I use will run on StyleTap, but I just thought it was interesting that none of those developers seem interested in having their apps "certified". Hmm, I wonder if it can handle Chinese OS and input systems. I suppose that might send it for a loop. That would be a show-stopper for me.

I'm still waiting for the mythical color HandEra.
Thinking about Vista? Think again: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt

RE: Not again.

expalmuser @ 1/23/2007 12:47:21 PM #

What StyleTap cannot handle well is lower-level hardware stuff, such as Bluetooth communication in particular. In general, anything that doesn't map nicely from Palm OS to WinMob is a question mark. So, "normal" programs that just draw something on the screen and respond to screen taps will do just fine. If the app sends info over Bluetooth, rotates the screen from landscape to portrait, accesses SD card, you will more likely run into problems.

RE: Not again.

cervezas @ 1/23/2007 3:54:35 PM #

What StyleTap cannot handle well is lower-level hardware stuff, such as Bluetooth communication in particular.

Of course the biggest hole is that StyleTap doesn't support Palm conduits for synchronizing data with the desktop.

Palm probably likes StyleTap because it provides a (relatively) smooth upgrade path from Palm OS to their pricier Windows Mobile Treos. I understand that some developers have found their Palm apps perform a lot better in StyleTap on the 700w than they do if you port them to Windows Mobile. (I know of one company that spent several months porting to .NET only to find the end result completely unusable due to terrible performance.) Of course, it's really pricey to bundle your app with StyleTap to support Windows Mobile, but for certain apps some customers are apparently willing to pay.

I don't think there's any credibility at all to the idea that Palm would acquire StyleTap.

David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
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First non-touch-screen PalmOS devices

Surur @ 1/19/2007 6:59:24 PM #

and it had to come from its competitors ;)

Surur

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Developers on board to Join:

philpalm @ 1/19/2007 7:17:52 PM #

Applications that feature the Runs on StyleTap logo have been certified by their developers for use with StyleTap platform.

If your favorite application is not in the list – just try it on a trial version of StyleTap Platform or ask the developer to contact us. We’ll be happy to work with them to ensure compatibility and good performance.

Publisher Application
Applied Computer Concepts Ltd. HIARCS Championship Chess for Palm
Arzdog Software NASCAR
Machinist
My Money
My Carbs
My Diet!
Motorcycle
Women
My Dog
My Cat
CpK
My Motor
My Guns
Austin Lane Technologies, Inc. ALMobile - Mobile Information Platform
ALPay - Payroll Time Costing
ALTrac - Production Tracking
ALmedSRV - Medical Services Tracking
ALsapPM - SAP Equipment Maintenance
BiliTool Neonatal hyperbilirubinemia risk
assessment
CAVU Companies EFB-Pro
EFB-Kwik
EFB-Quote
EFB-Pilot
ezAutoVal
Codejedi Inc. Shadow Plan for Handheld
Shadow Desktop for Windows
Shadow Desktop for OSX
Shadow Desktop for Linux
Creeptardo Inc. TeleFormula
DeepNet Technologies Blackjack Mentor
Blackjack Counter
Blackjack Expert
Smart Craps Roll Recorder
dsp-Agrosoft GmbH Schaf mobil
dynertec DynerTec(tm) POS
e-MedTools ProfileMD Classic
GigglePop.com evalPal
All-in-One
Grupo Trevenque Kaplan S.L. Cispromo
Cislibros
Entryware
John One One Graphics GenRes
Gen2Do
Crspndnc
States
Cemetery
MySearch
God
Promises
MyHealth
Laubrass Inc. UmtPlus - Work Measurement
UmtAudit - Paperless Audits
Mapsoft miniCAD
Mass. General Hospital Cancer Center Eponyms
Multi-Media Publications Palmcricket
On-Palm Solutions MisPINs PRO
GesParte
GesClase
GesFinca
Gestion AutoEscuela
OrbWorks PocketC
PocketC Architect
OrbForms Runtime
Ossanai Burns
CPR
Milk
MyCID10
Tachy
Hospital
Newborn
Polarity
Obstetric
HeparinP
Discharge
HVSR
NPT
Electrolytes
CID10
Conta Hospitalar
tAMB
Counter
Porto Alegre
RiskDialysis
Palmianer Kfz-Pass
MedInfo
Gew-Pass
RR-Pass
Med-Familie
Offen
Zitate
Reise-TB
Fahrten-TB
Job-TB
Kochbuch
Wann
Ver-Pass
Programmed Business Solutions BizSync
Asset Controller
R&D Technologiegesellschaft mbH Flightpal
SoarPilot SoarPilot
StatCoder.com STAT E&M Coder
STAT ICD-9 Coder
STAT CPT Coder
STAT NCD Lab Coverage
STAT Cholesterol
STAT Growth-BP
STAT Cardiac Clearance
GRACE ACS Risk
STAT Hypertension JNC 7
STAT A-Fib Stroke Risk
Depression PHQ-9 Score
Bipolar MDQ
STAT Diabetes

Stickman Software Hoops
Harrier
TrakWatch
Pace
Techneos Systems Entryware Survey Software
Toysoft Development Inc. KidzTalk-GoFish
KidzTalk-Calc
MahJongKing
mEncryptor
myCountry USA
mySchedule NFL 2006
mySchedule Golf 2006-2007
myWorkbench
Personal Audio Recorder PRO
SeaBattle 1945

PALM has mentioned acquiring companies in the past

SeldomVisitor @ 1/20/2007 7:53:48 AM #

Perhaps a target is being discussed.

[if this is as useful as it appears, I cannot imagine PALM not wanting control of it - do they have control of it already?]

Where have all of the apologists gone?

Gekko @ 1/21/2007 8:48:59 AM #

The silence is deafening.

RE: Where have all of the apologists gone?

Nycran @ 1/21/2007 11:20:51 PM #

I'm sorry.

Maybe there's eventually hope for WinceMob

joad @ 1/22/2007 1:43:13 AM #

The early versions of StyleTap were less than impressive - more of a neat demo. But good to see they are seriously developing it and apparently charging well for it.

If they use that $$$$ to keep improving the platform, maybe there's eventually hope for the Treo if Palm stays in business long enough to jam WinceMob down our throats.

Certainly Palm isn't doing much at all to save itself or even motivate the users from over 10 years to make a switch to Wince (other than that tempting 240x320 screen that shows how well WinceMo is designed).

As usual, 5 drunken teenagers (I'm guessing here) have managed to come up with and implement another clever idea that may rescue a company that apparently has just released a handheld that isn't even compatible with the tons of $60.00 cradles they have sold the past couple years. Looney.

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