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Palm OS Mock up GUIKent from PocketFactory has posted a nice piece called Reinventing the Palm OS: A How-To Guide. He takes up the issue of the Palm OS interface and how aspects of it have remained mostly unchanged since its introduction on the Pilot 1000 10 years ago. He writes, "Unlike other platforms that evolved over time, receiving various tweaks and improvements here and there as the user experience changed and technology improved, the Palm interface remained frozen it time since it began its days as an electronic organizer interface." Adding to his argument, Kent also provides a number of compelling modern UI mock ups that would look good on any system, let alone a mobile device today.
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The future of Palm OS

HiWire @ 1/31/2007 4:01:39 PM # Q
I'd love to get my hands on a copy of Cobalt and install it on a T3. With a good supply of lithium batteries, I'd be set for the rest of my life ;o)

Palm m505 User
RE: The future of Palm OS
HiWire @ 1/31/2007 4:17:33 PM # Q
Also, I think the duty of helping Palm work through their UI issues has fallen to the launchers and other 3rd-party developers. RIP Palm OS.

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RE: The future of Palm OS
sremick @ 1/31/2007 5:37:27 PM # Q
I have the Cobalt 6.1 ROM (9MB) from the simulator. As far as I know, though, that's the only thing it'll run safely in. I'm pretty sure it'd brick your T3 if you tried to load it on.

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RE: The future of Palm OS
PenguinPowered @ 1/31/2007 10:16:26 PM # Q
PSRC open sourced binder.

y'all should see if they'll strip the bits of Cobalt that they licensed from other people and open source it.


May You Live in Interesting Times

RE: The future of Palm OS
rsc1000 @ 2/1/2007 10:21:50 PM # Q
You definitely cannot use the SIM ROM files on any Palm OS device, as the SIM version of the OS is compiled to x86 processors - not the ARM architecture processor used by all Palm OS 5.x or greater device (and PocketPCs, etc).
RE: The future of Palm OS
HiWire @ 2/2/2007 10:22:30 AM # Q
Does anybody know where copies of Cobalt or the simulator can be downloaded? I took a quick look at Access' site, but I don't want to join their developer community for Linux.

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iPhone-like screenshots?

t3h @ 1/31/2007 9:18:58 PM # Q
Where's Dmitry when you need him, he's probably the only one left that could achieve something like this :)

The people at Palm surely can't...

Palm TX + 1GB SD + Motorola v3x = awesomeness

RE: iPhone-like screenshots?
mikecane @ 2/1/2007 7:01:07 PM # Q
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TX Cobalt and GSM

mw22 @ 2/1/2007 12:26:43 AM # Q
Cobalt was what I was waiting for and then "poof" it turned to vaporware - Nobody making a machine

Imagine a Palm TX with cobalt and gsm fone

Apllie "Iphone ????" eat your heart out.



Regards

mw22

RE: TX Cobalt and GSM
Tamog @ 2/1/2007 4:57:22 AM # Q
Hi,
there were Cobalt devices, but they never made it out.

I have a confirmed report of at least one Tungsten T3 running Cobalt(reliable source, but neither pictures nor an actual device in my hand), and there also was that Cobalt Smartphone sold at DevCon...

Best regards
Tam Hanna

Find out more about the Palm OS in my blog:
http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com

RE: TX Cobalt and GSM
mstur @ 2/1/2007 8:19:12 AM # Q
It is not only the Apple "iPhone" (if it will ever get this name...). It is the fact that the window of opportunity simply is now closed, and Palm is just another dying platform, and will go the same way as Atari, Amiga or the Apple Newton...

The Apple phone will jumpstart even bettter Symbian Smartphones from Nokia and SonyEricsson. And these are even now so much more stable than the Palm OS, you can only wonder why some people are still buying Treos ! I guess it is pure nostalgia ?!

RE: TX Cobalt and GSM
BaalthazaaR @ 2/1/2007 9:41:57 AM # Q
"Hi,
there were Cobalt devices, but they never made it out.

I have a confirmed report of at least one Tungsten T3 running Cobalt(reliable source, but neither pictures nor an actual device in my hand), and there also was that Cobalt Smartphone sold at DevCon...

Best regards
Tam Hanna"

They actually sold a Cobalt Smartphone??? Do you know anyone that got one? Maybe a picture?

RE: TX Cobalt and GSM
cervezas @ 2/1/2007 10:05:29 AM # Q
RE: TX Cobalt and GSM
BaalthazaaR @ 2/1/2007 10:40:13 AM # Q
Thanks David, I really have been living under a rock...

BTW, I have been reading your blog of late, and am currently reading Tam Hanna's blog as well.

RE: TX Cobalt and GSM
BaalthazaaR @ 2/1/2007 10:54:56 AM # Q
One more thing, I know that Palm has the rights to Garnet, but I was rather curious about what happened to Cobalt. Palmsource/Access seem to have eliminated any direct reference to Cobalt with the rebranding effort of GarnetOS.

If it is completely dead, do you suppose that Access would eventually open source it?

RE: TX Cobalt and GSM
PenguinPowered @ 2/1/2007 12:45:37 PM # Q
If it is completely dead, do you suppose that Access would eventually open source it?

Someone should ask them. They open sourced binder, so it is possible, but I doubt that they would open source anything as big as cobalt.

Also, if I recall correctly, some parts of cobalt were licensed from other vendors. Those parts would not be open sourced even if the rest of it was.


May You Live in Interesting Times

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Slingplayer PalmOS beta is open

BaalthazaaR @ 2/1/2007 5:32:36 PM # Q
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