Comments on: Palm OS Garnet VM Released for Nokia Internet Tablets

DROOOOOL!

Hey, Gekko! Think about THAT!!

Anyways, !!! from me. It provides a whole new use for even the 'old' N770 tablet, which, being the cheapo I am, would be the device I want to get. I wonder how much (if anything) the VM will cost once it is out of beta though.

It also seems funny to me that, as far as I know, Nokia is reversing the trend in hardware production that Palm has followed of recent years. Undoubtedly, Nokia has a ton more resources to do so, but they've gone from making (good :D) phones to tablet/PDAish devices, while Palm has gone from PDAs to almost smartphones exclusively...

You're into self-punishment, are you?

>>> You're into self-punishment, are you?

What, is the 770 really that bad? If it counts for anything though, I have been using a Pocket PC for the last 3 years (going onto 4!). :)

The n800 already seems to be dropping alot from its original $400 price though, which is very nice. I can't say if I would want the integrated GPS (along with the higher price tag) in the n810 because I've never used GPS before anyways.

http://www.ninelocks.com/blog/?p=39

You must get out and around the Net more, son. Scroll down for pertinent link.

I think I get out enough here, thanks. :P

As to scrolling down for the link, thanks, I already read it yesterday after you posted it. Correlate the time stamps of my comment that you commented on and your comment where you provided the link (not to mention who you were responding to when you posted the link)...?

Sorry if mentioning the 770 really brought those demons out!

Ran it on Linux and it does what it says... I was sort of hoping it would have all the standard PIM apps in the GVM so I could use it like just like a PDA, but I suppose with a little effort I could build an image with whatever programs I want and care about and not have to include any junk I don't need or want.

Seems some of the screen resolution choices that are documented weren't available in the non-debug binary... haven't done that much testing with it yet.

USR Palm Pilot 1000 --> Palm Pilot Professional --> TRG SuperPilot --> Palm IIIc --> Palm V --> Palm M505 --> Palm M515 --> Tungsten T|2 --> Treo 600 --> LifeDrive --> iPhone

Will report back. Doing jillions of things online at once right now...

1) Click email link, agree to EULA
2) Download
3) Plug in 770 to desktop
4) Find and move garnet_VM.deb file to 770's MMC
5) Disconnect from PC
6) On 770, File Manager to see file on MMC
7) Tap on Garnet_VM.deb
8) Application Installer comes up: Install? Yes.
9) Agree to EULA, get Garnet_VM start screen that has options
10) Tap Launch
11) Ooh, I Can Haz P4lmOZ In Mah 770!

There's no Rotate for it (Rotate button brings you to Calendar and then cycles through its view with repeated presses). And it is SMALL. I tried to take a picture comparing the Garnet/770 screen to my LifeDrive screen, but they came out crap. It is SMALL!! Like, TWO INCHES TALL. Get it? SMALL! TINY! TEENY!!!

It is fast as launched, but that's saying NOTHING because I have no data in the Apps: Calendar, Contacts, Memos. (Nor do I intend to try to load them... at least not now. Maybe not even later.)

Then I downloaded TiBR (ebook reader) and a random ebook from manybooks.net. Put them on the MMC as per above. Launched Garnet_GM, hit the Install button on that start screen, navigated to the two files and installed them.

They worked.

If you want me to try a specific app, post the URL for the app and I'll see if I can squeeze in the time for it.

My 770's digitizer is shot, so I couldn't try Graffiti at all (the digitizer is shot from me BASHING THE GODDAM SCREEN WITH THE STYLUS TO GET THE GODDAMNED SLOW 770 TO RESPOND! I'm not kidding when I call it the BPOSKTM!)

As other people have pointed out, and I agree: It's a toy right now. Once Rotate is enabled for a full-screen experience, they might have something (not that *I* would ever *buy* an Anti-Net tab from goddam Die!Nokia!Die!).

Oh, yeah, I got the full 320x480 experience in all apps. Even TiBR.

YMMV.

http://mikecane.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/nokia-770-the-endgame/

NSFW language (all deserved!). Not for Christians or Other Children.

In any event, I guess you learned to live with the 770 as you're testing the GVM on it?

Yeah, I love the Sony Reader (but still don't have one). I just wish they could get publishers to drop the price of ebooks to realistic levels! I am seriously waiting for the moment when I can spend tons of money for my elibrary (I've had to stop buying print books because of their weight; who wants to *carry* that stuff when moving?).

2. This shows how aggressive Access are becoming. Just when all of the PIC faithful were ready to stick a fork in Access/PalmSource 6-12 months ago, they come from out of nowhere with some reasonable looking ALP screenshots, positive buzz and now this!

3.Just imagine what will happen if Access lets Nokia become an official Garnet/ALP licensee for cheap. What if Nokia were to release a smaller, cheaper, cut-down version of the N800/810 with Garnet pre-installed? And then follow it up with a fancier version runnng ALP with a solid final release of the Garnet VM onboard? WOW! This sort of a non-telephone, non-voice device, I've always maintained, is the best way to dip a toe into the waters of a new OS.

4. I wonder if any of this will make Palm wake up and offer, say, Blazer, VersaMail & SDHC updates to the TX? Hmmmm.....NAH!

Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!

Death before Nokia, I say!! Death!!

i bet this is even buggier than FrankenGarnet.

Do you think Access has actually been fixing bugs in Garnet? [gasp!]

What are the version numbers for Palm OS and the core apps in Garnet VM?

I should add that there is nothing really different from v.5.4.99999 that I can tell, it's just the very basic uncustomized PIM apps that are included here.

How fast/accurate is the G1 input? Does it behave exactly like it did in the good ol' days? How does G1 fare with 320x480? Does it have fullscreen writing support etc? And is capitalization performed the same way as G2 (going between the character & letter areas) or do you use the old "up" stroke to do caps?

Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

ZombieGarnet will live on!!!

Thank God! It's not just me! Even with the MicroDrive excised in favor of CF, it still sucketh greatly.

http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/11/20/linux-on-amazons-kindle-e-book-reader

Maybe a notepad/draw program? Handyshopper? A Calendar app that syncs with either Yahoo or Google calendar wirelessly? An interpreter for text-based Z-machine games?

USR Palm Pilot 1000 --> Palm Pilot Professional --> TRG SuperPilot --> Palm IIIc --> Palm V --> Palm M505 --> Palm M515 --> Tungsten T|2 --> Treo 600 --> LifeDrive --> iPhone