Comments on: Palm Ranked Second in Windows Mobile PDA Phones

Treo 750Digitimes is citing internal Microsoft data that says Palm currently has a 10% market share of all Windows Mobile based "PDA phones." This data would place Palm second in worldwide sales behind the market leader HTC. The PDA phone figure cited represents the percentage of devices using the Pocket PC edition (which excludes non-touchscreen devices such as the Treo 500), and not the entire Windows Mobile category. Still it remains a respectable figure given Palm's relatively short history of releasing products utilizing a Microsoft operating system.

The article mainly focuses on HTC's overall declining Windows Mobile based smartphone market share given fierce competition with Motorola and Samsung. According to the article, Motorola holds a slight lead in that category with 30% share, with Samsung and HTC not far behind.

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The WM market is about 20 million big in 2008

Surur @ 1/29/2008 5:53:25 PM # Q
10% is probably about 400 000 WM Treo's per quarter, which sets the WM Professional market at about 4 million per quarter, and 16 million per year.

The WM Standard smartphone market (Treo 500v) is smaller, and probably comes to about 4-6 million extra per year, for a total size of 20-22 million WM powered devices sold by June 2008.


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monkeyboy @ 1/29/2008 6:07:09 PM # Q
Its a silly "statistic" really... of course, once you ignore the Windows Mobile Smartphone/Standard market and only consider the WM/PPC market... who else is there... HTC, Palm...

Yes, Samsung has made a few devices, HP, Toshiba... scattered others... imate...

But excluding the Q's, Dash's, BJ's, and other WM/Std phones (MPX220, 3125, i600, etc, etc) ??? hardly fair...

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Garmin entering phone biz.

Poopie @ 1/31/2008 6:51:36 PM # Q
... and they currently run WM5 if I'm not mistaken.

The number of players is getting larger every day.

Garmin and its chief rival, Netherlands-based TomTom, have been rumored for months to be working on cell phones. Mio Technology, another GPS company, said this week it was developing its own phone with chipmaker Qualcomm.

The Nuvifone, whose price has not been announced, will have a camera, wireless Internet surfing platform, MP3 player and 3.5-inch touch-screen display and give voice-prompted, turn-by-turn directions.

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Poopie @ 1/31/2008 7:30:35 PM # Q
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See SE's new WIndows phone

SeldomVisitor @ 2/10/2008 3:18:11 PM # Q
Pardon - posted elsewhere but this is probably the best place for it:

[and I have no problem with the elsewhere post getting removed]

Where is your CLIE god now, Palm fanboi?
mikecane @ 2/10/2008 7:42:06 PM # Q
Yeah, someone alerted me to that today.

Sony has some interesting looking hardware there.

Too bad the software is crap.

Me, I'm still up for an iPhone.

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In other news, MSFT is buying Danger

SeldomVisitor @ 2/11/2008 9:24:15 AM # Q
You remember Danger, right?

RE: In other news, MSFT is buying Danger
mikecane @ 2/11/2008 3:08:55 PM # Q
>>>You remember Danger, right?

You joke, right? I see more people using SIDEKICKs than TREOs or CENTROs!

ACCESS and MontaVista? Oh no... can it be... Foleo II, starring ALP?!!?

RE: In other news, MSFT is buying Danger
Poopie @ 2/11/2008 5:02:24 PM # Q
Could the Sidekick morph into the "Xbox portable" or "Xbox phone" or "xPhone"? Can't think of what else Microsoft does with hardware other than gaming or input devices.

Oh, and re: Foleo II starring ALP... if it happened, would Palm have to pay Access *again* to license ALP? Ouch... Although, a Linux phone running Android *and* ALP *and* native Linux apps would be an interesting proposal...

RE: In other news, MSFT is buying Danger
BaalthazaaR @ 2/11/2008 5:35:49 PM # Q
ACCESS and MontaVista? Oh no... can it be... Foleo II, starring ALP?!!?

I thought that Palm teamed up with Wind River after killing off the Foleo, not MontaVista.

RE: In other news, MSFT is buying Danger
SeldomVisitor @ 2/11/2008 5:53:58 PM # Q
There has been no further evidence that PALM and WIND are still working with each other since PALM said they brought WIND in to replace the Linux on the Fooleo with WIND's own.

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CFreymarc @ 2/11/2008 7:06:08 PM # Q
This reminds me of the Leno / Letterman "battle" after Carson retired.

While everyone was debating Leno vs. Letterman, the third place late night host, Arsenio Hall, lost major market share to the top to rivals and got his show cancels.

Here, it was Treo vs. iPhone but Danger lost a ton of customers to the iPhone and also the Treo with all the publicity.

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