Comments on: Palm Announces a Press Event for CES
Palm Inc. has just begun send out invitations to a press event to be held during CES 2009. The vaguely worded announcement email invites recipients to "Come to CES to see all that Palm New-ness you've been waiting for." The full invite is posted after the break.
The invitation only event will be held at 11:00 a.m. Pacific at the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas during the Consumer Electronics Show. While nothing is certain at this point, it is quite reasonable to assume this event could be the first public unveiling of Palm's long awaited new operating system.
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RE: Only a week late!
I'll take a late resolution if it shows me something worth waiting for. But that danged Android phone out of Australia looks pretty darned sweet. http://apcmag.com/breaking_first_australian_android_phone_revealed.htm
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PalmPilot Pro (1997) -> III (1998) -> Vx (1999) -> m500 (2001) -> m515 (2002) -> Tx (2007)
RE: Only a week late!
We'll see!
And maybe on the 18th they'll say a little more! (No, I doubt that, too, but one can hope!)
RE: Its about time!
RE: Its about time!
We can only hope...
http://tinyurl.com/2ooncg
RE: Its about time!
I'm not holding my breath. Watching Palm is like rooting for the Chicago Cubs.
Paying my annual PDA update tax to Palm since 1997.
This is it...
I hope it is the latter. Given the economy at the moment and the investment they must have made in Nova, this has to be the winner.
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
I'm sure that was a terrible decision to have to make, and a lot of friendships/partnerships within Palm were damaged by it. I bet their finance guys saw the quarter-over-quarter losses coming down the pipe, and decided that side-tracking their linux devs with patches for the Foleo probably would have caused a serious delay in the next-gen OS release.
Mark my words, we will see the Foleo again, and I have a feeling it will be the "full" version this time, as opposed to the email-only-then-announce-some-third-party-apps version.
- Jeff
Tungsten T -> Palm TX -> TX & Centro (Good combo so far!)
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
Times are much different from when the Palm Pilot first was introduced and they could get away with using an aged processor and small amounts of RAM. It's actually quite amazing how long they were able to milk that DragonBall.
The last known classic PDA user.
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
Personally, I think the iPhone is an overhyped, flashy, piece of fluff. Yes, it has a great web browser and media player. But, it has NO real PIM or business functions. Heck, Palm Memo's is the most useful PDA tool ever. Especially with Palm Desktop to allow you to easily enter new Memo's. Look at the forums for Blackberry and the iPhone. There are tons of questions about "is anyone going to develop Memo's like Palm has" for the Blackberry or iPhone. There are people who say that they would love the iPhone for the web and music, but can't do other things with it.
A friend of mine has an iPhone. It cost him $300. I have a Centro. It cost me $50 after rebate and Verizon new every two. We sat down and everything he did with his iPhone, I could do with my Centro. Yes, the Palm OS user interface is boring, but who cares? Then, I pissed him off when I checked enterprise email in a snap, watched a flash video from the web, and then used it as a remote for my DVD player.
I'm praying for Palm to come through with Nova and new devices. Otherwise, I'm going to buy a backup Centro. I can't get the functions I need from a crackberry or the iphone.
Let's pray for good things for Palm.
DA
Palm IIIxe -> Tungsten T3 -> LifeDrive -> TX -> Verizon Centro
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
Ahead:
* Mini laptops/Netbooks are obviously successful and desired.
* Their industrial design was good and they went with a good keyboard and screen resoltion.
* "instant on/resume" is something that none of the netbooks have yet.
Behind:
* The asking price was way too high with full-function competitors just around the corner.
* The processor was too slow and they didn't offer full-range, light-duty functionality.
Per usual, Palm's new "top of the line" was what they should have come out with two years earlier. Foleo in 2005 would have been awesome and groundbreaking. In 2007, it would have been a laughing stock.
-alan
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
Like imagining the Foleo in person. *maniacal cackle*
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
According to a poster who convincingly claimed to have worked on the Fooleo, the Fooleo was "instant on/resume" ONLY if the application running on the device was specially programmed to allow "instant on/resume".
That is to say, The Fooleo was "instant on/resume" only via smoke-n-mirrors.
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
1. Fooleo WAS NOT a Mini laptops/Netbook. It was a dumb terminal.
2. Fooleo industrial design was nothing new.
3. Fooleo "instant on/resume" is an irrelevant apples and oranges when compared to a real netbook.
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
your cheap thrills are not worth the $10,000,000+ financial charge and opportunity cost lost to Palm.
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
Which begs the question- just who can Palm compete with these days?
Maybe they can get into the electronic dictionary market or something like that...
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/08/08/micro-fondle-ectaco-jetbook-ebook-reader/
No one - NO ONE - has gotten there yet.
If Palm does, with the right software, UI, CPU power, built-in storage capacity, and battery life, it could be MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR WIN.
http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/are-ebook-reading-devices-doomed/
I mean Make Apple Throw Up In Its Mouth Major Win.
Scare The Eff Out Of Sony And Amazon Major Win.
Palm has eReader and MobiPocket and probably still some loyal devs (the same who lined up for Foleo and probably got reimbursed to *stay* loyal). eReader and MobiPocket sews up a good deal of eBooks. And wireless eBooks kills the Kindle (as Stanza on the iPhone has been doing by a 4-to-1 margin!) - and seriously wounds Sony too.
Pixel Qi is the wild card. Does Palm have a 5-6" color touchscreen device with a low-battery drain *Pixel Qi* screen? Rubenstein strikes me as someone who would go for an outsider NIH deal like that.
WiFi, Bluetooth (for keyboard), and SIM slot for 3G.
This would not just be Resurrect Palm From The Dead - it'd be Palm Leadership.
As long as they frikkin also provide HWR - and G1 too!
Anything other than that - FEH!
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
sorry, most of us normal people have no use for such a ridiculous, extraneous contraption.
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
Deja Vu indeed.
RE: It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again
let's hope
Wow
Might be the most exciting thing I've heard in a few.
I think we're looking at more than screen shots within a few weeks, folks.
Harold
RE: Deal or No Deal?
Pat Horne
RE: Got Nova?
Pat Horne
RE: Got Nova?
Paying my annual PDA update tax to Palm since 1997.
I seriously hope they're not going to screw this up.
RE: I seriously hope they're not going to screw this up.
ADB - yes, all of that is painfully obvious.
RE: I seriously hope they're not going to screw this up.
RE: I seriously hope they're not going to screw this up.
last chance - dedicated to eddie c -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VevHkaL6T4
i'm sure he has the album.
RE: I seriously hope they're not going to screw this up.
He's prepared for the Day of Retro!
RE: I seriously hope they're not going to screw this up.
http://mikecane2008.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/fasteddie.jpg?w=317&h=239
RE: I seriously hope they're not going to screw this up.
They can promise the world for CES, and no one will actually trust it will happen beforehand. We will all tune in just in case, but I'm more or less expecting I'll be rubber-necking rather than oohing and aahing.
RE: I seriously hope they're not going to screw this up.
Someone with PhotoShop skillz - DO IT!
Surely there is already a picture of Ed like this without the need of photoshop.
The last known classic PDA user.
if apple can come out of nowhere, we can too
"So just looking at Palm's situation today there's no logical reason, in a market with this kind of growth opportunity and the dynamics that are happening and how quickly things change-and again you could look at Apple and the iPhone as something that's come out of nowhere, essentially, and changed the dynamics of the smartphone space-there's every opportunity to do that in our case as well," - Ed Colligan - May 2008
RE: if apple can come out of nowhere, we can too
RE: if apple can come out of nowhere, we can too
No one seemed to see the Foleo coming!
RE: if apple can come out of nowhere, we can too
Two years ago.
-Bosco
m105 -> NX70v -> NX80v -> iPhone -> iPhone 3G
RE: if apple can come out of nowhere, we can too
That kind of effort requires a lot of money and intellectual capital. I don't see Palm as capable of that.
RE: if apple can come out of nowhere, we can too
of course. the shame is that Colligan thinks the iphone came out of nowhere but it really didn't. while his thumb was firmly planted up his own ass for years, Apple was plotting and scheming and working hard to create and perfect the iphone. death can come swiftly to a market leader...if you're not running scared all the time - you're gone....only the paranoid survive.
Long long ago
i felt that it has too many amination compare with palm OS..
RE: Long long ago
Amination: Amination is the process by which an amine group is introduced into an organic molecule.
RE: Long long ago
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=6073
Palm has never been the same since IMO
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p
RE: Long long ago
Pat Horne
iPod touch
RE: iPod touch
TC? WTF? i had to actually look that one up to see what the hell it was to remember it. boy, you're really on the bleeding edge, no?
maybe if people like you and MikeCon would upgrade at least once a decade, Palm would have enough money to both piss away AND some left over for R&D too.
RE: iPod touch
My frikkin Sony CLIE S320 was *better* than my LifeDrive, but I'm so used to the feel of the LD - plus my DATA is now TRAPPED in it - that I can't go back.
And you wouldn't have wanted to see me had I paid FULL LIST PRICE for that piece of turdiness. FIVE HUNDRED BUCKS!!! I resent the ~$100 total I've put in!
RE: iPod touch
your data is trapped? what will the free world do? perhaps you should bury it deep in the ground for some future generation to discover centuries from now to unlock the data and learn about the societal hipster fringe of our long lost civilization.
RE: iPod touch
RE: iPod touch
> generation to discover centuries from now...
Someone in China had that idea, too - about 3000 years ago.
They just dug up a tomb in northern China that had a still-viable large stash of marijuana buried along with the guy in the tomb.
Always nice to see what The Ancients considered uber-important for the afterlife!
Sorta like Mike Cane's data!
RE: iPod touch
Palm's New OS, Phone Likely at CES
Palm's New OS, Phone Likely at CES
By Priya Ganapati EmailDecember 12, 2008 | 12:32:07 PM
Palm is planning a massive product launch for the upcoming Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas next month. It could be the company's last, best shot at survival.
"It's quite likely, actually close to a certainty, that they will show a new OS, new user interface and probably new hardware," says Lawrence Harris, an analyst for Wall Street brokerage firm CL King & Associates. "This is Palm's last shot to prove it has what it takes to survive in a very competitive market."
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/12/palms-new-os-ph.html
RE: Palm's New OS, Phone Likely at CES
== Consumer Electronics Show..."
Well, Hell! If an "analyst" says so and a blog repeats and enhances what the "analyst" says, it must be so!
I like that "massive", don't you?
Giggle.
RE: Palm's New OS, Phone Likely at CES
well, it's pretty obvious that palm has something they feel is pretty "big". the real question is - how many people care anymore?
the problem is that businesses/enterprise are buying Blackberries and consumers are buying iPhones and they have all the momentum.
RE: Palm's New OS, Phone Likely at CES
It *won't* be a phone.
RE: Palm's New OS, Phone Likely at CES
Mike, after intentionally snuffing the life out of their PDA lineup and then the Fooleo fiasco, Palm isn't likely to revisit any kind of "niche" hardware (tablets, MID, netbook. UMPC etc) anytime soon. They will do smartphones, smartphones, and more smartphones.
As much as I hate to say it, there's still a small chunk of consumers (the true "prosumers") that Palm could still capture. There are some out there that want moe than the BlackBerry Storm's half-baked, patched on touchscreen support, WinMob's awkwardness, and Apple's walled garden of apps. IF Palm can offer two types of devices running Nova-one with physical keyboard + touchscreen support (ala the current Treo & Centros) and the other the "TX Treo" we've been clamoring for since at least 2003, THEN they could have a minor success on their hands IF they don't botch it with their traditional show-stopping launch bugs (m500 SUDS, T|T audio playback quality, T3 SD card toasting, 650 & T|T5 NVFS bugs, everything about the LifeDrive, the 700p's lag + instability etc)
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p
RE: Palm's New OS, Phone Likely at CES
You. Are. So. Wrong.
FAIL!
Uh-oh. Marc Blank's left Palm
Marc moved to Palm about a year ago and appeared to be involved in the Nova project. The fact that he's left could be because the job is done (good news) or the rats are departing the sinking ship (no so good).
RE: Uh-oh. Marc Blank's left Palm
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Only a week late!