Comments on: Palm Pixi Unboxed
No new footage of the Facebook app or Yahoo messenger integration (yet) unfortunately, but we'll be watching WireFly closely. In the meantime... feast your eyes! We've embedded the video after the break.
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RE: Speed
Or it could be a combination of all the above. We won't know for sure until the Pixi is out and people have a chance to put it through its paces and until the Pre is updated with whatever software the Pixi is using.
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Screw convergence
Palm III->Visor Deluxe->Visor Platinum->Visor Prism->Tungsten E->Palm LifeDrive->Palm TX->Palm Pre
Visor Pro+VisorPhone->Treo 180g->Treo 270->Treo 600->Treo 680->T-Mobile G1->Palm Pre
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RE: Speed
DR - very good point. i recall that my Pre seemed to slow down incrementally with the more data i put on it. when i put my 2,500+ Contacts on it, it really got chuggy. why? must have been all that synergizin'. ever see a pig try to run a horse race?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Oy_cPF950s
RE: Speed
LMAO!!
Wait. But isn't that whole point of YOUR Contact Lists? To synergize on your weekends? *cough*
RE: Speed
MikeCon - i demand that you end your flirtation with twitter and spend more of your time with us - the ones who were with you and stood by you during your formative years. those people on twitter aren't your friends - you only think they are.
RE: Speed
Gekko wrote:
DR - very good point. i recall that my Pre seemed to slow down incrementally with the more data i put on it. when i put my 2,500+ Contacts on it, it really got chuggy. why? must have been all that synergizin'. ever see a pig try to run a horse race?
That video resembles my T-Mobile G1 before the Donut update more than it does my Palm Pre. In any case whether we're talking Android or webOS, the trade off is that there is no need for potentially buggy sync software which is dependent on the handset maker's ability to provide drivers on every known OS. You just type or import your contacts into Google and your phone will sync to the cloud without any further interference from you. Just like Microsoft's old Activesync except that it actually works. As the hardware and software improves, so will the speed.
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Shouting down the PIC Faithful Since 2009
Screw convergence
Palm III->Visor Deluxe->Visor Platinum->Visor Prism->Tungsten E->Palm LifeDrive->Palm TX->Palm Pre
Visor Pro+VisorPhone->Treo 180g->Treo 270->Treo 600->Treo 680->T-Mobile G1->Palm Pre
http://mind-grapes.blogspot.com/
Purty
RE: Purty
Accordng to the WSJ Pixi review: http://tinyurl.com/y9ojhy5
there remain ~80 apps as of yet unoptimized for the Pixi's reduced screen resolution. IMO that was still a poor move on Palm's part and was likely only done as a cost-savng measure. They should have mirrored Apple more closely in that respect and stuck with 320x480 no matter what.
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Pixi is thirty bucks at Walmart
This is the direct-to-the-affiliate link:
http://www.letstalk.com/palm-pixi-sprint?popup=1
And this is Walmart's indirect link:
http://www3-walmart.letstalk.com/product/browse.htm?pgId=100&serviceCorpId=545
RE: Pixi is thirty bucks at Walmart
Tinkerbell Would Be Pissed
Tinkerbell Would Be Pissed
The Pixi is slow.
Achingly.
Maddeningly.
Ripyourhairoutandsmashitagainstthewallingly.
It lags, it hangs, it stutters, it freezes. A lot. A simple fact: Multitasking isn't better than unitasking when it takes longer to get shit done. An example: I wanted to take a picture while I had the browser and and App Catalog open. Simple. The camera froze spectacularly, rendering the entire phone completely unusable for well over 30 seconds—whenever I tried to flick the camera card away (cards are apps), it would shoot halfway off the screen, then appear back in its place. Somewhere between 30-45 seconds later, it regained composure. That's with just three core apps open, and no active syncing happening in the background.
True, I could sometimes have up to four apps running without problems, at least for a minute or so, before things starting getting cludgy. But it hangs even with just a single app running sometimes. (Just try loading the full Gizmodo page.) And every time you open an app, there's a solid expanse of time that elapses that you can feel, and it gets old real quick. Maybe webOS is just more transparent about load times than the iPhone, which masks them with title screens, but the whole experience of using this phone is like swimming through very pretty Jello, with one arm, wearing a cast-iron suit, or something like that.
http://gizmodo.com/5406001/palm-pixi-review
RE: Tinkerbell Would Be Pissed
Huh? The non-multitasking iPhone doesn't do that.
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RE: Tinkerbell Would Be Pissed
the point is that webOS is marketed as a multitasking powerhouse - yet in reality and practice it's far from it.
RE: Tinkerbell Would Be Pissed
Gary
Tech Center Labs
RE: Tinkerbell Would Be Pissed
Progress?
Tech Center Labs
RE: Tinkerbell Would Be Pissed
If you look waaaay back, Palm's been on a near-constant cycle of diminishing performance & speed ever since late 2004. The Treo 650 and T|T5 brought us NVFS and its related lag. Then they sorta fixed those 2 devices via numerous (delayed) ROM updates and then the LifeDrive came and set new levels of misery. The TX again rectified things to some degree but it was the last of its kind. Then the 700p came and it was an atrocity in several key areas and its successor the 755p wasn't that much better.
So basically we have the TX as Palm's only decent-performing PDA since the T3 and the Centro as the only decently fast smartphone since the Treo 600. Quite sad. Now Palm's going backwards again with the Pixi. They need to stop screwing around with iTunes compatibility and address WebOS speed issues and feature deficiencies ASAP.
And I have to admit going on record saying how impressed I was with the performance of the pre-production Pre earlier this year at CES. But the on all of the production versions I've used, especially once you toss a decent amount of contacts & apps into memory, really start to get sluggish. I haven't used a 1.3 Pre yet but there doesn't appear to be much (if any) improvement from all of the reports I've read.
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RE: Tinkerbell Would Be Pissed
the point is that webOS is marketed as a multitasking powerhouse - yet in reality and practice it's far from it.
Totally disagree. Yep, it has performance issues if you overload it, just like any computer. But as far as multitasking goes, it kicks the ever-lovin' buggery out of all its competitors - one swipe across the gesture area to flick from app to app. No need to even go into card view. It's beautiful.
webOS loses out to PalmOS in many ways, but it is the king of multitasking.
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RE: Tinkerbell Would Be Pissed
I personally think the iPhone's "limited" multitasking is sufficient for 99.9% of users (playing an mp3 while reading an e-book etc). Heck, while I felt limited by FrankenGarnet in many, many ways, the lack of multitasking was not one of them. It pained me more to not have, say, >4GB memory card support or a 320x480 screen far more than it did not being able to multitask. And the limited bit of so-called multitasking that I COULD do under Garnet (listening to PTunes while using E-Reader or having VM 4.0 send/receive messages while I was doing something else) was completely sufficient for my needs.
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->?
RE: Tinkerbell Would Be Pissed
saved state via screen shot to a card is not true multitasking! it's bogus and comparable to TealOS!!!
RE: Tinkerbell Would Be Pissed
I agree with Kris' point, to an extent - but you guys are biased by 3G Garnet devices. Picture loading up a big webpage on crappy slow GPRS, in crappy, slow Blazer, and then an SMS comes in. You have to switch to the Msgs app to respond, and then when you're ready to go back to the webpage you have to re-render the entire thing before you can read again. And that's not counting the infamous White Screen of Doom, where Blazer might randomly hang for a good 30 seconds before it actually opens again...
Or consider 2TwitMe, which I just reviewed. I loved it to bits, but the way it would totally freeze up your device while checking new tweets? Not cool.
It was just getting painful for me. In this respect, webOS is a revelation.
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Speed
I think it responds faster to gestures.
Big lag on the Pre.