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RE: NO COMMENTSI.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 12:22:16 PM #
There are other factors to keep in mind from all sides...
Palm's distibution and product availability is far greater than sony. For example - Australia, Canada etc. In Canada sony pda's only recently became available - still no sigh of the 615c...why? there is not a single addon for sony products in canada. sony product is preferable, however availablity is an issue. Plam with its new wireless model - can't preorder or purchase in canada - I just dont understand. There is a huge market out there for one of these companies - they just have to open thier eyes. Finally available in Australia!!!I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 5:24:49 PM #
I have been using Palm PDAs (USRobotics>3Com>Palm) since my Palmpilot Pro 5 years ago. I have decided to jump ship to Clie as most of my other electronics are from Sony... digital camera / DV / Vaio notebook and I have a number of Memory Sticks.
Went very close to buy a 710C overseas but my concern about service and repair put me off. I have been asking and waiting for Sony to bring Clie into Australia for more than a year... finally they have done it with the pre-order of the T615C last week... Ordered one immediately... Expecting it with excitment after reading Ed's review. RE: NO COMMENTSI.M. Anonymous @ 1/27/2002 4:11:44 PM #
Boring. Where is the innovation? This is just a m505 in Sony box and, judging from Ed's excellent review, it doesn't quite match the m505's quality.
If Sony's engineers spent as much time on innovation as they do posting to this website, they might come up with a worthwhile PDA. RE: NO COMMENTSmgillespie @ 1/24/2003 2:16:43 PM #
Obviously a pissed off m505 user.
FYI. The CLie T615C (and Euro version T625C) is not "just a m505 in Sony box ". Compare the specs: M505 T615/T625 8Mb 16Mb My 625C is the envy of plenty of m505 and m515 owners....
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 12:18:46 PM #
Thanks, Ed.
Very useful review! I had a chance to see T600C (Japan model similar in fetaures) and it seemed to me that Jog-Dial is harder to rotate than the one of other units (N610C for example). Ed, did you have a similar impression? Maybe it does not matter in most cases, but I created a hack, JogDaily (http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=37659) that improves usability of Jog-Dial. It detects rapid rotation of the Jog and accelerates the scrolling in the current application. But my impression was is that it would not able to improve something in T415/T615 devices since the Jog is too tough. Max RE: Jog-Dial of T615Cskipbremer @ 1/25/2002 2:03:01 PM #
I have tried and tried your hack on my 615 and cannot get it to do what you say it does. Can you help? I mean, it's suppose to hurry to the bottom of a list, like Address Book, if you use it jog down fast, right? Can't get it to do that.
RE: Jog-Dial of T615CI.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 2:28:41 PM #
It seems like the problem is that you can't rotate it fast enough on T615C in order the hack to work. Maybe I need to do different editions for different models.
Max RE: Jog-Dial of T615C
I noticed variations in the T-series JD. The T415 at CompUSA has a JD that is very ratchety and demands a lot of pressure. While the T415 and the T615 I tried at SonyStyle required noticeably less pressure. Nothing can beat that N-series JD, though.
RE: Jog-Dial of T615CI.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 7:37:26 PM #
I agree with the above posts. I have tried to use it with my N760C and find it does nothing to improve speed of jog dial screen scrolling.
RE: Jog-Dial of T615CBartman007 @ 1/30/2002 10:55:39 PM #
I have also found that it does nothing to speed up the jog dial, or at least nothing noticeable.
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 12:45:05 PM #
> The T615C's backlight was on the whole time at max >brightness and the m505's non-adjustable sidelight
>was on, too. When you have T615 at max brightness , of course the pwoer is gone quickly. You should adjust the brightness to match the M505's. my 0.02 RE: It's not FAIR !
He's comparing them both at the maximum settings. m505 is off or on, the 615 is Off through On. That's not hard to understand.
RE: It's not FAIR !
Yeah, but it's the equivalent of comparing a non-runner and a world-class runner on the maximum distances that they can run. Say the non-runner can run a maximum of 3 miles at one time, while the world class runner can likely run a marathon with ease. Then let's time them. Even a non-runner can complete 3 miles in 30 minutes, while a world-class runner would need just over 2 hours to complete the marathon. Does this mean the non-runner is faster? Of course not, because the comparison is flawed.
The same is true in his tests. Just because they were both set on maximum brightness doesn't mean the maximum is equal. Thus, the test is flawed as the original poster said. It still provides useful information if you keep it in context. RE: It's not FAIR !
My judgement was that these were the two settings that people were most likely to have their handhelds at most of the time: max brightness. People certainly say that more brightness is what they want in a handheld screen. So that's the settings I used. Was my judgement bad? Sony users, what's your typical brightness setting?
Like I said under another thread on this page, I wish I had done the same test with the T615C at minimum brightness but I didn't think of it until too late. Now I've had to send the T615C back. RE: It's not FAIR !I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 6:19:12 PM #
It's VERY useful information. If the battery lasts as long as the m505 at the HIGHEST brightness setting, two things immediately pop into mind.
1) My setting on my current 760c is always at 40% or less. Battery life, should be fine. 2) What the hell POS battery is the m505 using??? thadrool RE: It's not FAIR !
I usually have my Clie set at 70% brightness. My initial post to this thread wasn't to pick on you Ed, but to show Davy that his comments were misguided. I think these tests did provide useful information, but you shouldn't use them to draw the conclusion that the M505 has a better battery life.
RE: It's not FAIR !I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 6:41:55 PM #
I think the the screen of T615 is a little different. I used to have my Clie 610 set at 50% brightness, but now I can have my 615 at 0% (Not turn-off)!! That means even you set your brightness to the minimum , it's still bright enough to me. I don't do a test on this but you can expect a lot of extra battery time you will get.
RE: It's not FAIR !
This is gona be a topic that is hard to make eveyone happy. I for one usually have my 760 set at 0% (not totally off).
RE: It's not FAIR !I.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2002 4:50:45 AM #
I find that around 30% - 40% of it's max brightness level is fine on my N770C under all conditions; sat next to large window on the 9th floor at work (overlooking a river so there aren't any buildings in the way) or using it by dim bedside table lamp light.
RE: It's not FAIR !Bartman007 @ 1/30/2002 10:59:56 PM #
I personally have my upgraded 710 set at 0% (not off) most of the time. I turn it up to 50% when I'm taking notes in class with Wordsmith. I have found that 25-33% is my dream brightness, but alas, I am a hardcore user and drain the battery too quickly unless it is turned way down most of the time.
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 12:45:19 PM #
I just got my T615C and all I can say is WOW. I have a M505 currently but not for long (smile). One thing though the smallest font size on the T615C is really thin. I thought I heard there was a patch out from some user to make the font a bit thicker. Have you run into one?
Thanks for the very cool review! RE: Thin Font
The patch is called ThinFontFix, and it really does improve the viewing of the text. It's available at the nXt Clie Club, and I'm sure other places as well.
If you are interested in the Remote IR Range, this is
important to read. In particular, Omni Remote cannot use the extended range at this time. Various Palm IR Ranges are listed at: Pacific Neotek makes Omni Remote, a _learning_ remote According to the Pacific Neotek the t415 (and T615) have However, if you want a learning remote, Omni Remote is For more information, see the discussion on this at: <http://neptune.he.net/cgi-bin/suid/~neotek/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=4&topic=35> As well as Pacific Neotek's original mail to Sony with I am not affiliated with Sony, Pacific Neotek, or anyone RE: Remote IR Range
RE: "not that that is terrible"
I mean that data transfer would be short distance. RE: Remote IR Range
how about this remote software?
http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA005810/remocon/premocce.htm RE: Remote IR Range
Yes, I guess that is another program. However, they
have the same problem. They only use the Low Power remote. They do not appear to access the High Power T415/T615 IR. RE: Remote IR RangeI.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2002 10:52:21 AM #
I have a T615C and have the application called Remote Commander loaded. I agree with the ed here. I have tested the power of the RF port by going in 5' steps from the device being controled. It finally stopped working as a remote after 25'! Sony says it will be good for only 15'.
RE: Remote IR Range
Yes, Sony Remote Commander will go a long range.
They use the high power IR. However, that is limited to the devices that are preprogrammed. If you want to control somthing else, you are out of luck. I was hoping that the learning remotes would be able to RE: Remote IR RangeBartman007 @ 1/30/2002 11:02:58 PM #
Has anyone tried to hack the Remote Commander db's? I'd try but I have a 710 -unless someone will donate one to me- =) But it seems like you could try and program new commands into the RC db's
One way (probably overkill, but most obvious to me) is to analyze the ir signal from RC and study the db's to figure out how the data is stored in files. Then you could try either hand code or make a converter to convert OmniRemote files into RC files.
RE: Remote IR RangeI.M. Anonymous @ 5/6/2002 10:53:10 PM #
My buddy showed me the Remote commander last week. We were walking past an electrical store, about 15 ft away, and without even stopping, he managed to turn 3 of their display TVs off! It Rocks Guys!!! RE: Remote IR RangeI.M. Anonymous @ 7/2/2002 2:00:18 PM #
I haven't reveived my 615T yet (eagerly awaiting th moment to hand over my well-used Palm Vx to my non-digital girlfriend), but I would like to see if I can remotely control PowerPoint presentations being given on my Sony Viao PCG-GR390. Does anyone have comments on whether that would work through the IR port?
Mike
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 1:01:06 PM #
Sorry to horn in on you, Ed, but this is the thread for T615C stuff!
========== I got to hold the T615C box @ CompUSA. Then I actually got to *play* with a T615C @ SonyStyle in NYC!! MY GOD!! Sony has produced one *killer* unit! It felt so good in my hand, I didn't want to let it go! I was totally unprepared for it after the T415 -- which is much too thin (front/back) to hold comfortably. The T415 feels like it's cutting into my hand! Also with the T415, my thumb could not get used to the lower-than-my-S320 JogDial. But on the T615, my thumb felt just fine! That additiunal thickness *really* makes a difference in how my hand can hold it! The unit seemed noticeably faster than the N-series. Benchmark gave it 214%. PictureGear Pocket was also noticeably faster. And that screen!! Photos look *gorgeous*. I did not have an N-series or m505 to compare it with, but the photos on it and the test pix I sent over from my S320 (saved as color) looked just fine. (I had no problems beaming to it. With all of the T415s I've tried, I had to do a Soft Reset first. Go figure!) I did turn off the backlight and was surprised at how dark the screen became. But even having the backlight on its *lowest* setting was fine for me. (Whenever I played with a demo Prism or a IIIc, I'd put the backlight very low.) I tried LCD Analyzer (a must-have app for color screens), Thin Font Fix, and several pix. There were also some games already on it -- including the sound-enhanced Zap game. Wow, that speaker really adds something to playing games. I'm not much of a gamer, but I could see myself wasting some serious time just with that game. I did not get to use the stylus -- had to pull out my S320's. I was also unprepared for my reaction to the silver casing. I wasn't keen on it with the T415 -- but it looks *spectacular* with that color screen! It really looks like a very posh and very unaffordable device. Now I am wondering if I'd really prefer Royal Blue. . . I'm wondering if the Royal Blue color would distract my eye from the screen or make the screen seem different. With that silver shell, the color screen stands out in a way that is *unimaginable* after seeing the T415! I was never real fond of the N-series screen. Something about it just didn't feel right. I *love* the T615's screen. It reminds me a lot of a Pocket PC screen (and that's a compliment! -- go see the Audiovox Maestro's great screen). Side by side with my S320, the T616 was noticeably thinner (front/back) -- 5/8" vs 1/2". The one thing I'm not sure I like is the flip lid. The one I saw was very roughly-textured. Maybe it was the awful T415 lid? I like the smooth feel of the S320's microfiber lid -- even though it's already showing signs of wear after just three months! I really, really want a T615. Sony has finally produced a color unit that makes me forget my subterranean lust for the m505 altogether -- and makes me now want to invest in a Memory Stick! The T615 will be a hit! Peripheral makers better start tooling up *now*. I want a Stowaway keyboard, a SnapNType keyboard, and a Landware stylus -- for starters! I also got to see, under glass @ SonyStyle, the MStick camera. It has a molded-plastic storage case that is very odd-looking. The case resembles a fat, black, plastic whistle! CompUSA told me they had the camera in (I missed that!) -- and sold out in just 3 days. Hmm! RE: Tried the T615C
Also see the Pentopia Camelion Stylus.
It is a pen as well as a floating stylus. They have a Clie N7xx model, but not a T model, yet. RE: Tried the T615CI.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2002 1:19:42 PM #
>Sony has produced one *killer* unit! ..
Agree.. RE: Tried the T615C
No, the Pentopia Chamelion for Clie is for the N Series. I am hoping that they will make one for the T Series.
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As a Palm consumer I'm sorry deeply, but market pal hardware crashed his creator. Really, palm is very slow. I think.
Wellcome, SONY, to olympus place in hi-tech portable industry.