PalmInfocenter Holiday Break

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Many thanks to everyone for the well wishes, and offers of support! I am felling much better and more rested. I really just needed catch up on sleep and take a short break from working.

Regular news updates will resume the week of Dec 20. The discussion forums are currently being worked on and should also be back online soon. In the meantime, give the gift of the Palm OS., check out the Holiday Shopping Guide. Last minute shipping ends soon.

Thanks again for your patientence and happy holidays to everyone.

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PalmInfocenter will not be publishing news on a regular schedule for the rest of this week and up until the 31st. Updates will still be posted when time is available but I have been very sick and now have little time to prepare for holiday travel. The forums will be restored this weekend if possible. Very sorry for the inconvenience, things will be back to normal shortly...

Before I get any more complaints, Please keep in mind when one person runs a website and when that one person gets so very sick to the point that he can't get out of bed, without the room spinning and using a computer is huge chore in itself, it will effect the site. In sort I need a break from the site in order to get better. Most of you don't have any idea of the amount of time and effort I put into PIC on a daily basis for so long without a non-working vacation.

Be excellent to each other, and party on dudes!
-Ryan


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PalmOne Backlog Has Investors Backing Out

Gekko @ 12/17/2004 9:10:28 PM #

Here's my contribution to PIC during the "Holiday Break"...

Troy Wolverton
PalmOne Backlog Has Investors Backing Out
By Troy Wolverton
TheStreet.com Staff Reporter
12/17/2004 12:37 PM EST
URL: http://www.thestreet.com/stocks/troywolverton/10199799.html

Shares of palmOne (PLMO:Nasdaq) plunged Friday after investors were unnerved by the company's earnings report.

The stock was recently down $8.57, or 20.1%, to $33.98.

Although the device maker met the Street's earnings expectations for its second quarter, it issued disappointing guidance for its current quarter. Perhaps more disturbingly, the company reported a sizable backlog in its inventory, particularly in its flagship Treo line of smartphones.

Following the report, the company's stock also was hit with a series of downbeat analyst reports, including at least two downgrades.

"PLMO faces multiple challenges ahead," wrote Andrew Neff, an analyst with Bear Stearns, in a report issued Friday. "Fundamentally, we are concerned about PLMO's device-only business model that is heavily dependent on the success of a single product."

Neff lowered his rating on palmOne shares from "peer perform" to "underperform" and decreased his price target range to $29 to $32 a share from $34 to $38 a share. (Bear Stearns has performed noninvestment banking business for palmOne in the last year.)

The handheld device and smartphone maker said after the bell Thursday that it earned $24.69 million, or 48 cents a share, in its just-completed quarter. That result was up from the second quarter last year, when the company lost $4.11 million, or 11 cents a share. Excluding discontinued operations, the company last year would have earned $2.63 million, or 7 cents a share.

The company's revenue rose 38% from the year earlier period to $376.2 million.

Excluding stock-based compensation and other noncash charges, the company would have earned $27.22 million, or 53 cents a share, in the just-completed quarter.

Wall Street had predicted the company would earn 53 cents a share on this basis on sales of $373.14 million. The company had predicted that it would earn 46 cents a share on a GAAP basis in the current quarter.

But while the company met the Street's estimates for its just-completed quarter, it gave disappointing guidance for its current period. The company now expects to earn 17 cents a share in its fiscal third quarter on sales of about $280 million.

In contrast, analysts had predicted the company would earn 30 cents a share on a GAAP basis on sales of $318.09 million in its third quarter.

PalmOne did offer an above-consensus forecast for its fourth-quarter outlook, and maintained full-year earnings guidance. For the fourth quarter, the company now expects to earn 45 cents to 55 cents a share on sales ranging from $360 million to $380 million.

The Street was predicting 40 cents a share in fourth-quarter earnings on sales of $343 million.

On a conference call on Thursday afternoon, company officials attributed their change in part to seasonality in the company's handheld business, and in part on a simple timing issue. Although the company still plans to roll out its new Treo 650 smartphone to its existing wireless carrier partners by the end of its fiscal year, the device won't be available on some of those networks until later than the company originally expected, company officials said.

"We would like to emphasize that our guidance for the full fiscal year remains unchanged, and we are comfortable with our plan," said Philippe Morali, the company's interim CFO.

But a number of analysts found themselves most uncomfortable with palmOne's plans.

The company's ability to meet its annual guidance is now heavily dependent on its fiscal fourth quarter, noted Pat Chiefalo, who covers the company for Merrill Lynch. That increases the risk that the company won't be able to meet its outlook, because one or more of its key carrier deals could be pushed back to its next fiscal year, he said. Chiefalo reduced his rating on palmOne shares to "neutral" from "buy."

"We believe the data points and expectations on Treo provided by management substantially increase the risk to our investment thesis regarding Treo uptake in the near term," Chiefalo wrote in a research note issued Friday. (Merrill Lynch has provided noninvestment banking services for palmOne in the last year.)

A related concern among analysts was the inventory position held by the company and its partners. At the end of the second quarter, palmOne and its carrier partners were holding nearly 21 weeks worth of Treo smartphones in inventory. Additionally, the company and its distribution partners held another 9.6 weeks worth of inventory in its handheld devices. Both of those figures are well above the company's targets, analysts noted.

Company officials played down the inventory swell. Handheld inventory was at a reasonable level considering that distributors and retailers were bulking up for holiday sales, Morali said. Meanwhile, the smartphone inventory had much to do with the transition from the older Treo 600 to its recently released Treo 650, he said.

"Carrier partners that are currently only selling the 600 have indicated that they are satisfied with their inventory position going into the holidays," said Morali. "Therefore we are comfortable with current channel inventory levels."

Again, the company's comfort didn't necessarily console Wall Street. In order to reduce its inventories to more normal levels, the company will have to double its market share in the smartphone market in its fourth quarter from its third quarter, wrote Needham analyst Charles Wolf in a note issued Friday.

"Given the Treo's $600 retail price point before carrier subsidies, we believe that such an increase in market share is highly unlikely," Wolf noted, maintaining his "hold" rating on palmOne shares. (Needham has provided investment banking business for palmOne in the last year.)

http://www.thestreet.com/_tscfoc/stocks/troywolverton/10199799.html



RE: PalmOne Backlog Has Investors Backing Out
Gekko @ 12/17/2004 9:13:47 PM #

hey gfunk - so much for your recent statement that PalmOne is selling Treos "faster than they can make them". Do you research next time!!!



RE: PalmOne Backlog Has Investors Backing Out
twrock @ 12/17/2004 10:27:43 PM #
"Fundamentally, we are concerned about PLMO's device-only business model that is heavily dependent on the success of a single product."

Certainly seems to lend some credence to the crowd who says PLMO and PSRC should have never split.

RE: PalmOne Backlog Has Investors Backing Out
LiveFaith @ 12/18/2004 12:53:29 AM #
Gekko,

Thanks for the Holiday cheer there. With a flagship like the T5 it's a wonder that PLMO is not pennys.

But, had you been posting regularly over the past few weeks you would have been stunned to watch the price go from the high 20s into the 40s. The "little engine" has been on fire until revenues were found to be less exciting than the excitement was about. In short, the stock is doing well and has been outperforming the market for the approx past 6 mos.

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com

RE: PalmOne Backlog Has Investors Backing Out
Gekko @ 12/18/2004 8:05:20 AM #

Pat - In the long run, only earnings matter.

GG



RE: PalmOne Backlog Has Investors Backing Out
mikecane @ 12/18/2004 5:48:02 PM #
News for Gekko: In the long run, nothing matters.

RE: PalmOne Backlog Has Investors Backing Out
Gekko @ 12/19/2004 11:31:09 AM #

>"News for Gekko: In the long run, nothing matters."

Typical Liberal moral relativism.



RE: PalmOne Backlog Has Investors Backing Out
mikecane @ 12/19/2004 2:25:49 PM #
No, you eejit, non-Republican realism. Keep waiting for that Rapture, pal.

RE: PalmOne Backlog Has Investors Backing Out
rcartwright @ 12/19/2004 5:49:06 PM #
>No, you eejit, non-Republican realism. Keep waiting for that Rapture, pal.<

Typical Liberal resort to personal attack when the Liberal can not come up with a substantive retort.

In my little corner of the world Palm has made what looks like across the board $50.00 cuts except for the T5, which has one of those "buy me and get this free" type offers that equal $50.00. Intrestingly, the T3 was on sale for $279.00.

Happy Holidays all!

"The Anglo-Saxon-Scots-Irish people are the most warlike people in history, and their enemies forget it at their peril. "

RE: PalmOne Backlog Has Investors Backing Out
mikecane @ 12/20/2004 9:58:29 AM #
Here's your civil discourse:

http://www.americabeyondcapitalism.com/

RE: PalmOne Backlog Has Investors Backing Out
rcartwright @ 12/20/2004 1:55:16 PM #
Here's your civil discourse:

http://www.americabeyondcapitalism.com/

Thanks Mike. This is OT, but I really have no other way to ask you this but have you read this book? If you think its worth reading, then I will check it out. I agree with his thesis that liberals need to rethink their beliefs. I believe that liberals generally (and the Democratic party in particular) are in the same place that conservatives and the Republican party were after November 1964.

Rick C

Thanks, Ryan

Gekko @ 12/17/2004 9:35:12 PM #

Ryan - Thanks for your hard work and efforts with this site. You're right - most of us don't have any idea how much work goes into it - so we don't always appreciate your efforts. I hope you feel better soon - watch out for the "strange" next time - lots of disease out there!

GG

RE: Thanks, Ryan
4s @ 12/17/2004 9:47:40 PM #
Feel better soon, Ryan. Thanks for the great site and for all thay you do to make it a success.

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RE: Thanks, Ryan
Admin @ 12/17/2004 10:17:11 PM #
the Flu I had took so much out of me that I didn't sleep for days, literally. It's very difficult to even concentrate now. Tomorrow I may post a new new stories, but I'm not giving up on the site by any means, just need a break for a bit.


RE: Thanks, Ryan
G M Fude @ 12/17/2004 10:32:11 PM #
Your efforts and input into PIC have made it a great source of entertainment and information for many years, Ryan. You deserve a break but what a shame you had the 'flu!

Keep up the good work and hope you're feeling 100% again soon.


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- Steve Smith

RE: Thanks, Ryan
millydog @ 12/18/2004 12:01:40 AM #
Your site is great Ryan. I actually have it set as my homepage.
We should all let you know that we appreciate your efforts.
Thankyou for keeping us informed....and I hope that you get better soon....and why not take a well deserved break. We will miss the articles while you have time off but we will all still be here waiting for you to return.

RE: Thanks, Ryan
Hal2000 @ 12/18/2004 12:34:58 AM #
My Homepage too......You deserve the rest.

Zodiac2/T616
2.128 gigs under the hood.
RE: Thanks, Ryan
svrontis @ 12/18/2004 6:25:30 AM #
Ryan,

Hope you are feeling better soon.

Cheers.

RE: Thanks, Ryan
Strider_mt2k @ 12/18/2004 7:42:01 AM #
Get well soon man.

Get some rest.

RE: Thanks, Ryan
Foo Fighter @ 12/18/2004 9:35:29 AM #
Thanks for all your hard work and sacrifice, Ryan. Get some rest and get well soon.

May I suggest my home remedy for the flu; whiskey...and lots of it. It may not help the flu symptoms but you'll forget all them in time. :-P

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Editor, http://Pocketfactory.com
Contributing Editor, http://digitalmediathoughts.com

dizzy flu
drw @ 12/18/2004 12:05:15 PM #
Couple weeks ago I woke up dizzy and felt that way for most of a week. Kind of like seasickness without any other symptoms. If I closed my eyes I would slam into whatever wall was to my right. Was about to set a Doctor appointment, but it slowly went away.

---
David
RE: Thanks, Ryan
edeab220 @ 12/18/2004 1:50:39 PM #
I hope you feel better, Ryan! I can only imagine what you must do to keep PIC in order! Even though I do keep a Palm site in order, it can't compare to what you must do for PIC!

If ever you need any help, don't hesitate to contact me somehow.

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Technology Reporter at www.dailygadget.com

RE: Thanks, Ryan
Foo Fighter @ 12/18/2004 3:01:07 PM #
>> "Couple weeks ago I woke up dizzy and felt that way for most of a week. Kind of like seasickness without any other symptoms. If I closed my eyes I would slam into whatever wall was to my right. Was about to set a Doctor appointment, but it slowly went away."

Sounds like an inner-ear infection, or something thereabouts. Inner-ear problems typically impair equilibrium, resulting in dizziness, a sense of spinning, or this "seasickness" you describe. They go away in time.

Dr. Foo recommends that you see your doctor next time this occurs. And take two HotSyncs and call me in the morning. You'll be getting my bill in the mail in two weeks. Oh, and I DON'T make house calls. :-P


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Editor, http://Pocketfactory.com
Contributing Editor, http://digitalmediathoughts.com

RE: Thanks, Ryan
Gekko @ 12/18/2004 3:13:36 PM #

Wear a rubber next time!



RE: Thanks, Ryan
Foo Fighter @ 12/18/2004 3:58:59 PM #
Over his ears? That would look nice.

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Editor, http://Pocketfactory.com
Contributing Editor, http://digitalmediathoughts.com
RE: Thanks, Ryan
abosco @ 12/18/2004 5:08:48 PM #
>>Over his ears? That would look nice.

Here at PIC, we don't discriminate.

Ryan, get better soon, man. Orange juice!

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T637

RE: Thanks, Ryan
mikecane @ 12/18/2004 5:46:45 PM #
Orange juice?! That's a homophobic drink!

(More history to puzzle the wee ones!)

Aw, here's a hint:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Bryant

RE: Thanks, Ryan
tooele @ 12/18/2004 9:20:09 PM #
Thanks for all the great stories and reviews and all the time you put into this site. It's my homepage too.

Tungsten T3 + T610
RE: Thanks, Ryan
twizza @ 12/19/2004 1:48:28 PM #
Thanks for all that you do Ryan. Get rest, get well, get blessed :)

antoinerjwright.com
RE: Thanks, Ryan
rcartwright @ 12/19/2004 5:58:48 PM #
>the Flu I had took so much out of me that I didn't sleep for days, literally. It's very difficult to even concentrate now. Tomorrow I may post a new new stories, but I'm not giving up on the site by any means, just need a break for a bit.<

Ryan, I don't know about the Yankee version of the crud, but the one down here would let up for a day or two and then pop you again.

Orange juice, rest and relaxation is all that will really kill it.

Happy Holidays

Rick C


RE: Thanks, Ryan
drw @ 12/21/2004 8:06:23 PM #
Yea, dog's have something to teach us. Their life is shorter yet they take plenty of naps. We think our rush rush asphalt treadmill life is natural, but it isn't.

---
David

Where is PalmSource?

batmon @ 12/17/2004 9:44:44 PM #
Is PalmSource gone? When I try to access it says it is under construction...

Japanese PalmSouce route me to http://palmsource.palmgear.com

RE: Where is PalmSource?
Captain Hair @ 12/17/2004 11:16:08 PM #
Well, [url]http://www.palmsource.com/[/url] seems to work for me. It's all new and shiny too!

"People who think they're smart annoy those of us who are."
RE: Where is PalmSource?
bcombee @ 12/17/2004 11:47:24 PM #
We were doing a major update to our website last night, but it's all back now; the content is the same, the improvements were mainly to site navigation and to optimize page sizes.

--
Ben Combee
http://palmos.combee.net - PDA programmer weblog
RE: Where is PalmSource?
batmon @ 12/18/2004 7:27:00 PM #
www.palmsource.com still not working in Asia... It routes to verisign's under construction page...

haterz...

joad @ 12/17/2004 10:55:19 PM #
so now I guess the investors will be picked on for going "negative" on PalmOne...

If you are going to rely on only a few devices and their accessories to survive, they need to be stellar. The woefully undermemorized Treo650 - their "upgrade" to the wildly successful Treo 600 - should be enough to give people the jitters about where PalmOne is standing and heading.

Personally I hope the company gets it's act together soon and tests things in the "real world" before releasing them, as their performance of late has been extremely disappointing to those who are their most loyal customers. But it's not a good sign when so many buyers of last year's model return or avoid the "upgrade" in droves because it doesn't contain even enough memory to do what the Treo 600 could do.

Add up all the lost sales resulting from skimping $10 bucks of memory on a $600 device, and what could have been a wildly successful rollout becomes miserable PR from the people who were the most likely promoters of your product.

All your hard work

Counselor Dave @ 12/18/2004 12:40:29 AM #
I'm very sorry to hear you've been under the weather. I also want to add my thanks for the really outstanding job you do with PIC. I'm just a novice in the world of Palm and I depend on your site for information and insight. So, thanks for all your hard work; it really helps and enjoy your recuperation and holidays!

RE: All your hard work
LiveFaith @ 12/18/2004 1:01:24 AM #
Ryan,
Thanks for all you do and get well soon! PIC is a great community.

Buuuut, if you don't make it back quick, I'm going to hack the site with my M100/sled modem and post a headline story on "4K Memo Limits and The Threat to Western Culture". In other words, don't stay gone to long!

"A merry heart doeth good like a medicine." :-D

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com

RE: All your hard work
Nusm @ 12/18/2004 10:27:44 AM #
Hey Ryan,

I think I speak for everyone (okay, *MOST* everyone!) when I say get well soon. Take your time and recover, and I'm sure we'll all be here ready to spew bile and conspiracy theories, insult one another, and be general wankers when you get well!

Seriously, PIC is a great site, and thank you for all you do. We spend lots of time insulting and second guessing you, but we hardly ever take the time to say thanks.

Flash RAM problem

Tuckermaclain @ 12/18/2004 12:37:53 PM #
Does anybody have any knowledge or input on the "other" problem with the flash RAM in the T5/650? Specifically, PalmOne's datamanager or program manager patch which causes inexplicable crashes. I couldn't make the 650 useable am am returning it. After a hard reset it crashed after I beamed a datebook event from my Z72 datebook. No 3rd party apps were involved. I haven't seen this addressed yet in PIC.

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