Still Room for a Palm OS VGA Lead?
Brighthand's Ed Hardy has written a editorial entitled, There's Still Room for the Palm OS to Take the Lead in VGA. He thinks that Palm OS Cobalt offers much better support for handhelds with VGA (640x480) displays.
From the Editorial,
Microsoft seems to have emphasized making what's on the screen look better, rather than having more information appear. It doesn't matter if you are using the Default Layout or the Desktop Layout; a handheld running Windows Mobile 2003 SE doesn't display much more than a QVGA Pocket PC does on the same setting.[...]
The latest version of Palm OS Cobalt has support for VGA built into it. Full support for VGA was only added a few months ago, and no handhelds have been released running Cobalt, so exactly how well VGA has been implemented isn't clear yet.
What I'm hoping is that Cobalt devices will come with a web browser that has a "true" VGA mode. I want a browser that shows a web page as it would appear on a PC if it had a 640-by-480 pixel display. This sounds simple, but it isn't available in Windows Mobile SE.
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RE: Cobalt
For P1 or another Palm OS hardware seller to release VGA requires a near total redesign of form factor in order to build a device around VGA. While I'm all for it, P1 cannot simply put VGA in the T5 or Tapwave into the current Z1,2.
Hopefully, that forsight is what P1 is preparing for a Cobalt launch and why they just dumped the T5 on us for the mean time. For some strange reason I have my doubts.
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: Cobalt
For the e800, a programmer did a hack (a bit buggy) which minimizes the menus and the other gui-objects to the size aspect, which you can find on desktop pc's. You would't beliefe that even the standard internet-explorer of win mobile 2003 se does a better job than any netfront seen on my previous clie's. I even can see my school-mind-maps and read them on the go (generated by mindmanager x5).
Watch these screen-shot's:
month-view
http://home.intergga.ch/stocker/PIScreenshot45011.jpg
day-view (look at the start-menu)
http://home.intergga.ch/stocker/PIScreenshot42354.jpg
excel
http://home.intergga.ch/stocker/PIScreenshot41648.jpg
internet-explorer
http://home.intergga.ch/stocker/PIScreenshot45639.jpg
http://home.intergga.ch/stocker/PIScreenshot4940.jpg
http://home.intergga.ch/stocker/PIScreenshot4745.jpg
Christian Stocker
RE: Cobalt
I personally don't want VGA until it is widely supported by apps and is made on a small enough OLED. A VGA LCD would be a big battery sucker. Before Palm starts making VGA PDAs, they need to start standardizing OLED screens and Cobalt. VGA is second to those.
RE: Cobalt
There is no theme to discuss as long as PalmSource have solved that issue with Cobalt.
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RE: Cobalt
livefaith mentioned also the hardware formfaktor:
"For P1 or another Palm OS hardware seller to release VGA requires a near total redesign of form factor in order to build a device around VGA. While I'm all for it, P1 cannot simply put VGA in the T5 or Tapwave into the current Z1,2."
All I wanted to say is, that this should be no problem, as my toshiba e800 has the same screen size as for ex. my former clie nx73v. They even share the same brando screen-protector. So any T3 or T5 could use a vga-screen without having to redesign the pda-case essentially.
There might be a lot to do on the os- and application-side.
It would be great to have all my well known palm-os apps and a much better response-time back with a palm os vga-screen ;-)
RE: Cobalt
Why don't you nitwits understand that Cobalt became instantly obsolete the day that PalmLinux was announced? There's not going to be any Cobalt devices. Copland Redux.
http://www.businessweek.com/1995/51/b345595.htm
RE: Cobalt
>"Go away. We don't want to hear the "Palm is dead" mantra."
Of course you don't! Now go stick your head back up your ass where it's safe.
RE: Cobalt
Looks like Gekko was right about the Dell Axim
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/17/review_dell_axim_x50v/
the real answer is no
The world will end in 2006. Just as it was predicted in the bible along with the release of Microsoft Longhorn.... :p
Can't teach and old dog
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RE: Can't teach and old dog
Both of the above companies have deep pockets, close affiliated with the SD consortium and have no love for Sony, HP, Dell, or MSFT.
Toshiba has exited the PPC biz so they might have reason to pause before jumping back into a dying handheld market. Plus they have their partnership with Audiovox for cell phones to consider. Still, they have plenty of VGA-worthy handheld experience and a pretty good knack of industrial design in the portable market. No one has stayed as consistently strong in all price points of the retail laptop market for as long as Toshiba has.
Panasonic would be the ideal licensee (if not outright purchaser of the whole kit & caboodle--P1 and PalmSource). Let them market a slim & sexy multimedia line alongside a ruggedized ToughPalm line and the Treos. Panasonic has either exited the US cellphone market or is playing it very quie right now. Purchasing P1 would instantly give them the Treo line and a chance to take on Nokia & Sony/Ericsson head-on.
RE: Can't teach and old dog
We need another PalmSource licensse to make the "PalmSlate"
We need another company to take Palm OS 6.0 and with a clean slate, design the "PalmSlate" that every power user tp do a totally, solid state Palm OS device that kicks the crap out of all of these tablet computers out there.
Business plans are invited. Do not hire anyone that worked at Palm One nor Handspring in the last three years and you will be in good shape.
PalmSlate
This, and not the Sony U, could be the OQO killer.
RE: We need another PalmSource licensse to make the
But Mike, I agree 110% on having either G1 standard, as a free download/plug-in, or as a nominal cost add-on (and I DO NOT mean Teal Scrip--no one should dare recommend that vile program again!)
RE: We need another PalmSource licensse to make the
Decuma has gone to the corporate "bargain bin"... slate idea is waiting for Evernote to do something on Palm.
RE: We need another PalmSource licensse to make the
Sony had money invested in them, did you know?
PPC VGA=QVGA PPC
I think that the current lineup of Microsofts VGA PocketPCs ios not yet stable or useful at all. While the screen resolution may be higher, there is not much more data beeing displayed...
BTW, that was already covered almost two months ago at TamsPalm-see
http://tamspalm.blogspot.com/2004/12/vga-train-wont-drive-over-us-yet.html
Something else: The current ZOD still is very good. I deem it as one of the first candidates for an OS6 upgrade-much more likely than T3, T5,...
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RE: PPC VGA=QVGA PPC
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Cobalt
Someone please tell Mr. Hardy that Cobalt is dead.