Welcome to PalmInfocenter v5.0!

Posted By: Ryan Monday, November 13, 2006 3:30:38 PM

PalmInfocenterWelcome to the new version of PalmInfocenter.com. Today we’ve released a new site redesign, our 5th major overhaul since 1999. v5.0 features a fresh new look with faster loading times, an enhanced layout and some other new features, while still retaining the classic PIC look and feel. We will have some exciting relaunch giveaways very shortly so stay tuned.

Special thanks goes out to Kent Pribbernow of PocketFactory for his help and work on the site design.

Please let us know if you have any trouble or spot any bugs. The PalmInfocenter store will be updated with the new design soon as well. Thanks for reading and we hope you enjoy the new PalmInfocenter!

You can checkout previous versions of PIC over at the Internet Archive.

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New Site

kevinbgood @ 11/13/2006 6:37:17 PM # Q
WOW is all I can say. What an eye pleasing job, really! I mean it even makes the eyes truly feel good to look at your new site. Color is everything and the color selection is great.

WELL DONE.

Kevin

Addicted to Palm

RE: New Site
twrock @ 11/13/2006 7:01:50 PM # Q
Looks good Ryan!

I'm still waiting for the mythical color HandEra.
RE: New Site
twizza @ 11/14/2006 12:40:01 AM # Q
Nice work on the redesign. Much the same, but cleaner. I like how the ads are moved out of the way, yet they are still noticeable. Will have to play with the rest of the look and feel after I get some sleep, but things so far load much faster and readability is much better. Great job.

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Very Web 2.0

Surur @ 11/13/2006 6:37:56 PM # Q
Pastel colours, gradients and everything :)

Surur

They said I only argued for the sake of arguing, but after an hour I convinced them they were wrong...
Hey!! I made associate writer at PDA247. Come see my nattering over there!!
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RE: Very Web 2.0
freakout @ 11/13/2006 8:48:53 PM # Q
^^ I love the new look. Where's the damn Edit Post function? ;)

Tim
I apologise for any and all emoticons that appear in my posts. You may shoot them on sight.
Treo 270 ---> Treo 650
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Very nice

Jimmie Geddes @ 11/13/2006 6:44:47 PM # Q
Very nice!! PIC was the first Palm website I saw on the web, great re-design, still going strong!

Jimmie Geddes, Editor
http://www.gadgetsonthego.net
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Crashes IE6

Gekko @ 11/13/2006 7:18:51 PM # Q

I had to use Firefox to post this. Nice new look though. Thanks.


RE: Crashes IE6
Ryan @ 11/13/2006 7:25:59 PM # Q
Thanks for the comments so far guys.

Gekko - I am using ie6 to post this now and it's working for me. Not sure why it would crash for you. Try deleting your cache files and trying again. Let me know if it still gives you problems.

RE: Crashes IE6
DevPOV @ 11/13/2006 7:41:06 PM # Q
IE 7 has a bit of weirdness in panel placement but since I only use FireFox... Who cares?

RE: Crashes IE6
Gekko @ 11/13/2006 7:50:34 PM # Q

Deleted IE Temp files, cache, history, etc. and IE still crashes (death freeze) when I click on "Comments" to read them and/or post.



RE: Crashes IE6
Foo Fighter @ 11/13/2006 8:27:24 PM # Q
Ok, I'm experiencing the same issue as Gekko; when I click on comments link IE6 freezes up as if it's chocking on some script code.

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RE: Crashes IE6
Admin @ 11/13/2006 8:33:04 PM # Q
hmm, that's really odd. Try again now, I made some adjustments to those links.
RE: Crashes IE6
sford @ 11/14/2006 12:07:54 AM # Q
Well, it's working on my Treo (Blazer), but it freezes/crashes IE every time I click a link. (From what I've seen, though, looks great!)

Pilot Pro, III, IIIe, Nino (yeah...oops!), IIIc, VIIx, m505, NR70V, NZ90, NX60, T3, Zire 72s, NX80V, Treo 90, Treo 650
RE: Crashes IE6
sford @ 11/14/2006 12:07:54 AM # Q
Well, it's working on my Treo (Blazer), but it freezes/crashes IE every time I click a link. (From what I've seen, though, looks great!)

Pilot Pro, III, IIIe, Nino (yeah...oops!), IIIc, VIIx, m505, NR70V, NZ90, NX60, T3, Zire 72s, NX80V, Treo 90, Treo 650
RE: Crashes IE6
Ryan @ 11/14/2006 12:26:05 AM # Q
hmm, this ie crashing problem is very perplexing. Can you guys give me some more info -
what version of IE you are you using?
What OS?
Which exact links are causing the problem and what exactly happens?
Does this happen when you try to post a comment? (if so which form and page are you using)

thanks, I can't seem to replicate this myself.

RE: Crashes IE6
Admin @ 11/14/2006 1:29:23 AM # Q
ok, please try again using IE. I think I have found and fixed the culprit.
RE: Crashes IE6
Gekko @ 11/14/2006 7:08:09 AM # Q

IE6 still crashes.

RE: Crashes IE6
Admin @ 11/14/2006 12:15:17 PM # Q
ahh. I just had to install ie7 last night at the last minute and so now I can't go back and test under ie6.

Can you be specific about which page url and what action causes the crash?

RE: Crashes IE6
palmato @ 11/14/2006 1:01:14 PM # Q
http://www.palminfocenter.com/comments/9096/

ie6 on xp sp1 v 6.0.2800
Freezes and must be killed. IE5 however seems to work fine.


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RE: Crashes IE6
Gekko @ 11/14/2006 2:06:02 PM # Q

IE6 appears to work OK now.



RE: Crashes IE6
Admin @ 11/14/2006 2:13:47 PM # Q
I *think* the IE issue is sorted out now. If anyone still experiences a problem with IE - do let me know.

(as a side note - use firefox or if you have to at least IE7 for the best experience.)

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Very Web 2.0

dws90 @ 11/13/2006 7:50:16 PM # Q
I like it.

Nice work.

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Cool!

Toysoft @ 11/13/2006 8:04:50 PM # Q
Very cool in 24" wide screen. No wasted spaces ;)

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2 Issues

Haber @ 11/13/2006 8:07:02 PM # Q
1. The "View Article" bar is compartmentalized from the article synopsis via a box and different coloring, and makes it not immediately clear which "View Article" bar belongs to which synopsis.

2. The Article and Article Comments are nearly to the edge of the left side of the screen, which is visually jarring and unpleasant.

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PIC redesign is as buggy as a new Palm.

The_Voice_of_Reason @ 11/14/2006 12:12:17 AM # Q
Ryan, it's ironic that Palminfocenter's update mirrors the problems that we typically see with updates from Palm and PalmSource...

Flashy, less functional and buggy is how I would sum up the redesign. Did you hire Palm engineers to do your beta testing, Ryan?

Clicking on the "comments" button immediately and consistently crashes Internet Explorer 6. I'm surprised this wasn't obvious when (if?) you tested the redesign. I actually had to drag out my Treo 700p to post this. Is it possible for you to revert back to the old (perfectly functional) site until you work the bugs out?

Also, while eye candy (fancy schmancy graphical design) may seem nice, please let form FOLLOW function. For example, it's now difficult to determine which "Comments" button is associated with which article.

PLEASE bring the "Zen of Palm" back to Palminfocenter, Ryan. Your site is far too good to spoil with nonfunctional fluff. 40 lashes with a wet noodle to Kent Pribbernow ("Foo Fighter") for messing up PIC!

[Don't be offended by the above comments Ryan - you know I always tell it like it is. I hope you'll take this as constructive criticism]


TVoR

RE: PIC redesign is as buggy as a new Palm.
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 11/14/2006 12:47:12 AM # Q
To try and help you track down the bugs, the site crashes after clicking on any buttons to view the articles or to post comments. Using Internet Explorer 6 and Windows XP Professional on an IBM X40 laptop. Also tried it on a desktop with the same software configuration with the same results. Using a Treo 700p as a broadband modem. All other sites I log into work fine.

The site is perfectly viewable on the Treo 700p browser, but log in info was immediately lost after my previous post.

TVoR
[preparing a petition to bring back the "old" Palminfocenter, real Coke (with sugar) and Sony CLIEs]

Still not woking, Ryan.
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 11/14/2006 12:47:12 AM # Q
PIC still crashes with Internet Explorer 6. And when trying to respond to the other thread with Blazer on the Treo 700p the site continually asks me to re-register. Posting in this thread the log in info is somehow retrieved. Odd.
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IE

freakout @ 11/14/2006 1:22:27 AM # Q
A solution to the IE woes being reported here: dump that buggy, insecure piece of crap and get Firefox already. Sheesh!

(braces self...)

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Nice rebranding

zinzan @ 11/14/2006 3:17:47 AM # Q
Nice job Ryan..
It's good to see a fresh look once in a while... hope it didn't cost the millions most corporate rebrandings do!! ;-)

"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate"
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IE users!

t3h @ 11/14/2006 4:04:38 AM # Q
Excellent, you did something to keep the IE users away :P
(yes, I am joking. from Safari!)

Palm TX + 1GB SD + Motorola v3x = awesomeness
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Very nice colors!

etxetxiki @ 11/14/2006 5:48:09 AM # Q
Only one question. Why must I accept the cookies to be able to enter in the forums?

Keep the good work. PIC is the best Palm site by far.

Regards.

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Mobile Browsing/Posting

Gekko @ 11/14/2006 7:14:30 AM # Q

Is Mobile Browsing/Posting any better yet? If not, how about a better mobile version?

Thanks.

RE: Mobile Browsing/Posting
Admin @ 11/14/2006 12:13:12 PM # Q
Yes, a new improved mobile version is in the works.
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Good job - well done

icarus @ 11/14/2006 7:44:39 AM # Q
It is great.

It looks very nice, while still keeping a strong recognition factor towards the "old" design.

The new colors look fresh, nice and professional.

The loading speed is great too.


Since reading the postings, I did some jumping around. I could however not discover any inconvenience or bugs.
(Well, I am also one of those happy Firefox (2.0) users.)


Thank you very much for this great (re-)design.


Best regards from Switzerland,

icarus

icarus

[size=1][i]Palm III, Palm III, Palm m105, Palm Tungsten T, palmOne Tungsten T5, Palm TX[/size][/i]

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Postings: Comments / Forum

icarus @ 11/14/2006 7:50:38 AM # Q
There is one thing:
When posting a comment to an article, the edit function seems to be gone.

Is there no way to edit a posted comment?

Also some formatting functionality seems to be gone as well.

Is BBCode not supported anymore? Or only in the forum but not the comment section?

My signature was done in smaller font and partially in italic (using BBCode). The font is smaller than the regular message block. But italic does not work (or is it because the previous setting was done with small 'i' rather than capital 'I'?). Also it shows the tags (eventually because not supported anymore?).

Is there a reason why the forum section and the comment section do not allow the same comment / signature formatting?


Else: A great job and a nice design.


icarus

Palm III, Palm III, Palm m105, Palm Tungsten T, palmOne Tungsten T5, Palm TX

RE: Postings: Comments / Forum
Ryan @ 11/14/2006 3:08:45 PM # Q
thanks icarus,
there is no edit on the article comments right now, it is planned.

Basically the forum and article comments are handled differently, so BB code only works in the forum.
I also have two different signatures so you can add images, and userbars etc to the forums, but
the article comments just use text to keep things simple.

RE: Postings: Comments / Forum
twrock @ 11/14/2006 8:56:36 PM # Q
You know, I've kinda gotten used to the idea of not being able to edit posts. Of course there are any number of reasons why the poster would want to edit a post and they are mostly great reasons. However, I do like that not being able to edit posts adds a tiny bit of pressure to people to get it right the first time and to be a little more careful about what they say. If I know I can go back and delete or change a post, I might be less careful about what I posted in the first place. YMMV.

I'm still waiting for the mythical color HandEra.
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Fixed width, horizontal scrolling

FlaSheridn @ 11/14/2006 11:19:02 AM # Q
The redesign seems to assume a fixed width which (in Safari and FireFox 1.5 at least) is too wide for my normal browser window, and forces horizontal scrolling. Blazer 4.3’s optimized mode manages to avoid the problem.
RE: Fixed width, horizontal scrolling
Ryan @ 11/14/2006 9:26:42 PM # Q
What resolution are you using? Does it do this on the homepage too or just the content pages?

It is a little bigger width wise, I may make some adjustments.

RE: Fixed width, horizontal scrolling
FlaSheridn @ 11/15/2006 12:14:35 PM # Q
> What resolution are you using? Does it do this on the homepage too or just the content pages?

About eight hundred pixels wide, which works well for Slate and the old Slashdot.


> It is a little bigger width wise, I may make some adjustments.

Thanks; I learned in my Palm VII days that fixed-width web pages are a bad thing.

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