Comments on: Sony T415 Drops to $250

Sony has dropped the official price of the PEG-T415 by $50 to $250. As always, Sony gave no reasons for this and has a company policy to never call attention to price cuts.

This is an unusually quick price drop; the T415 only began shipping from SonyStyle in late November. This may not a good sign. When a company drops the price this soon on a handheld, its frequently because sales are weak and the company may be hoping to spur demand.

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Waiter, there's a PDA in my soup

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 2:34:27 PM #

Nobody wants to pay $300 to look at their calendar through a layer of split pea green soup, which is what the display looks like. Sorry Sony, you flubbed this one.

RE: Waiter, there's a PDA in my soup
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 2:38:20 PM #
Sorry, you are very incorrect in your description of the T415, and I must defend it.

It's really much more of a creamy blue chowder.

RE: Waiter, there's a PDA in my soup
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 2:41:20 PM #
Just think of it as free window tinting. Looks like smoke colored to me.

RE: Waiter, there's a PDA in my soup
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 4:55:56 PM #
I stand corrected.

RE: Waiter, there's a PDA in my soup
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 7:58:34 PM #
Actually, I paid about $249 to have my car windows tinted, so maybe now it's a fair price ;-)

They may have to drop it to $150...

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 2:36:57 PM #
the screen is that bad. This device might have a hard time competing with the m100/m105, if it was even in that price range. Otherwise this would have been a nice device feature-wise. Why didn't they just use the same type of screen (though hi-res) other Palm OS devices use?

RE: They may have to drop it to $150...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 8:03:17 PM #
I bet the combination of high-res and super thin meant coming up with the new split pea display.

RE: They may have to drop it, period
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 11:48:28 PM #
Norm

One theory...

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 2:36:34 PM #
Maybe there are too many people holding for T615C instead of buying the T415, so the sales of T415 is not very good, and Sony has to push T415 a little harder.

Since T615C is expected to be priced at around US$400, a US$150 difference for a 65k color screen + 8MG RAM is quite reasonable. Don't compare this to the price difference between m505 & m500 - the price diff between the m50x is small because the m505 screen really sucks.

RE: One theory...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 2:46:39 PM #
I think that's just one of the small factors that contribute to slow sales. Obviously, slow sales of the T415 is the major cause for the price drop. The reasons in order of importance would probably be:

1. Didn't quite come out in time for Christmas
2. Dark Screen
3. Not-So-Good reviews on lots of sites
4. People waiting for the T615



RE: One theory...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 3:00:29 PM #
And the price difference between the T415 and T615 needs to be huge (using your comparison) because the T415's screen really, really sucks. I'm still waiting to see what the 615's screen looks like in person, before I place any judgement on it.

RE: One theory...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 9:46:24 PM #
I agree. The T415 screen really, REALLY sucks. I'd rather have the screen on my old IIIe than this. I also agree with the reservation of judgement on the T615. I want to see this screen in person - no pre-orders here. If it's comparable to the 415, I might have to look for a discontinued 610 or shell out for the 760.

RE: Screens are becoming more important
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 10:16:10 AM #
Seems that us palm users will not preorder anymore based on simulated pictures of screen handhelds. First the m505 now the T415. I agree that Sony makes the best high end color model, I've seen the screen and it is remarkable. But never base a purchase on the models in the ads, all screens are simulated for the press.

Looks like suppliers need to have in stock all these models, batteries always charged, for buyers to check out the screens. Sorry, Palm, no more of these plastic non-powered palms for display. We users have been burned way too many times! =(

RE: Screens are becoming more important
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 10:41:35 AM #
> Seems that us palm users will not preorder anymore
> based on simulated pictures of screen handhelds.

I certainly wouldn't base my decision on a picture, but I did buy my HandEra 330 based on reviews and a lot of user comments. If essentially everyone says the screen is great, they usually are right. It certainly worked in that case.

Most reviews of the T415 were at least less than positive about the T415's screen, or avoided mentioning it. So I checked it out in the store and it was even worse than anyone had described. Now when I see pictures of it on-line where the screen area is black, I look at it closely to see if it is actually on or off!

The death of grayscale...

Foo @ 1/10/2002 2:59:56 PM #
This is just another example that the market for grayscale devices priced higher than $150-$199 is gone. People are never again going to pay $299 for PDAs that sport a b/w display. Those days are long gone. At the $299 price point and beyond, consumers start looking for more features such as color, wireless connectivity, or multimedia. If a device doesn't have that..it's as good as dead.

RE: The death of grayscale...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 3:21:16 PM #
I think you're right about the death of grayscale, but the problem is compounded since the T415 has such BAD grayscale. It's not so bad if you use it in isolation and get used to it, but put it next to any other PDA (especially in a store where some average guy is comparing models), and it's hard to justify the T415. I'd personally go with the low res S320 instead, if it were still available.

RE: The death of grayscale...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 4:51:51 PM #
Whatever happened to a paperwhite display? Paperwhite darnit!

RE: The death of grayscale...
David @ 1/10/2002 5:12:54 PM #
I agree the prices on grayscale models must come down, but until the battery life on color devices is vastly improved, I'm sticking with grayscale (and AAA batteries). I use my Palm as an e-book reader, and want to be able to have it on continously for hours without worrying about recharging.

RE: The death of grayscale...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 8:06:00 PM #
> Whatever happened to a paperwhite display? Paperwhite darnit!

Stay tuned for the T615. Check the archives for details.

RE: The death of grayscale...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 9:57:01 PM #
I hope you're right about the T615, because if it falls as limp as the 415, there will be plenty of disappointment to go around.

RE: The death of grayscale...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 3:28:34 AM #
Not sure sure about that. Personally, until new desplay technology becomes available, color screens are not an option ... not for me, anyway.

Looking at the T415 and Edge at $250 and the m500 for about $300, I think the m500 is probably the best overall choice (with the Edge as a close second). Just my $0.02.

RE: The death of grayscale...
Foo @ 1/11/2002 12:11:39 PM #
I'll lay odds the M500 is next victim in the price war. Palm, Handspring, and Sony should equip these devices with parachutes to help them survive falling prices! =)

RE: The death of grayscale...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 1:17:14 PM #
I wouldn't call it the death of greyscale, but rather the death of lousy screens. I was helping a friend set up his new T415 last night, at first wondering if I should have waited instead of getting a Handera 330 5 months ago. I'm glad I didn't wait because I'd make the same purchase today. Comparing the two screens side by side shows an impressive difference. The HE330's screen is crisp from any angle in most lighting, whereas I had to keep manipulating the T415 to see it well. I think the pixel size is part of it too....High-res is great, but I prefer the Handera even though lower-res because the characters do not appear nearly as thin. I'm sure its wishful thinking, but I hope OS5 or at least many OS5 machines will be QVGA--greyscale and color.

It's the Visor Edge, stupid

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 4:02:23 PM #
The price drop is a response to the Visor Edge being $249. That's all.

RE: It's the Visor Edge, stupid
Foo @ 1/10/2002 4:27:38 PM #
I seriously doubt this is in response to the Edge's lower price. The Visor Edge is a flop, and Handspring still can't move it after 4 consecutive price reductions.

RE: It's the Visor Edge, stupid
mikecane @ 1/10/2002 5:35:21 PM #
The T415 is a flop too. It's just that no one will yet admit it (especially those who went and bought it!).

This price reduction caught me by surprise -- I was just at Sony's site about noon and the price was what it was yesterday!

RE: It's the Visor Edge, stupid
mikecane @ 1/10/2002 5:58:11 PM #
I just went back to Sony's site. It's still list $299!

RE: It's the Visor Edge, stupid
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 7:01:26 PM #
It's $249 here:
http://www.sonystyle.com/vaio/clie/index.shtml

but $299 here:
http://www.sonystyle.com/micros/clie/

Sony's just got too many sites that do the same thing. I know they've done this before.

RE: It's the Visor Edge, stupid
Foo @ 1/10/2002 10:46:31 PM #
>Mikecane said: "The T415 is a flop too. It's just that no one will yet admit it."

You can bet your stylus that if SONY is dropping the price of the T415 this soon, they must be rotting on the shelves. As I said, the days when consumers are willing to spend $299 on a plain vanilla Palm are over. Sony will end up eating these things if they don't drop the price another $50.

Its KaKa thats all

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 4:11:23 PM #
Umm, can say $99.95 and it MIGHT sell. I would buy a M100 over that unreadable piece of crap. I see... I see... it and the Visor Edge..... fading.... fading.... away!!!!!!

Sony you F-up BIG time! Pull the plug!
If it drops to $59 i will buy it for a spare remote;)

RE: Its KaKa thats all
mikecane @ 1/10/2002 5:36:32 PM #
That spare remote comment is funny!

RE: Its KaKa thats all
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 7:56:55 PM #
Spare remote!!! LOL!!!

RE: Its KaKa thats all
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 8:07:55 PM #
It's a spare....and its a remote!! You are a comedic genius!!

RE: Its KaKa thats all
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 10:07:43 PM #
HA ha he ha ha heh ha, sped sup ps sup spud spare remo

remote spea4r hah hah I get it!!!!

RE: Its KaKa thats all
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 10:09:06 PM #
OMG, that was just the funniest comment I have ever heard out loud, LOL x10 = so funny, can't stop laughing, ow ow, now my sides are hurting, cough ack, blood coming up, heead popping, insides boiling, either I spent $300 bills on a pda that I could have spent on an anthrax vaccine, or that joke was just really funny, really I could have bought a mini-fridge for $250, or some textbooks for school, or an mp3 player with 10gigabites, or a three months supply of junkfood, or a bike, some shoes, a deck of cards, a warm jacket, and some flowers for the homeless lady on my corner, hell I could by some basic decent stuff for all the homeless on my corner. PDA's rule!!! Give me sony, or give me death. That's my philosophy.

RE: Its KaKa thats all
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 6:49:40 AM #
spare remote? English is not my natural language...and I must
admit that the spare remote comments is not so funny for me ....maybe someone
can explain it ?
thx
Thomas (....please make me laugh...)

RE: Its KaKa thats all
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 9:22:44 AM #
One of Sony's selling points for the T415 was that it had a beefed up infrared port and software that allowed it to be used as a "universal" remote for TVs, VCRs, etc. Our friend was simply saying that the T415 is so bad that the remote feature is the only thing that he would use it for, and even then it would only be a spare (auxillary).

RE: Its KaKa thats all
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2002 9:05:00 AM #
WOW!!!

Makes ya wonder if there is any intelligent life forms
in this forum????

Ka Ka??? geeze what a bunch of tossers!

GH DAVALL


As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 7:16:03 PM #
It's amusing to see the energy these 1 or 2 losers expend trying to bash Sony at every opportunity. You'd think the T415 was a mass murderer they way they talk about it. Looks like Sony's sudden takeover of the Palm market in the past 6 months (making Palm's and Handspring's models look like overpriced underachievers) has made these posters more than a little insecure in their choice of PDA.

Don't worry - the way Palm is bungling things these days, their days are probably numbered. I wouldn't be surprised if all we'll be able to buy in a year from now will be Sonys.

Here's a group just for those of you obsessed with complaining about Sony:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CLIE_Complaining_Club/

Kiddies - please post your rants there and leave the grown ups at Palminfocenter alone.

RE: As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 7:34:16 PM #
Yes, you are completely correct. Your handheld is infinitely superior while mine is a total piece of camel dung. Your decision to buy the model that you did was totally justified while mine was a hideous mistake that will inevitable leave my family out on the street and subject to daily shame and humiliation. Everyone who has ever doubted your genius on any topic really is a total moron who is in the fast lane to the loony bin.

There, now that you have been declared the utter and complete winner, can you move on to something interesting?

RE: As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 7:56:05 PM #
The above comment should have been posted here -

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CLIE_Complaining_Club/

Please be more considerate in the future.

RE: As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 8:00:12 PM #
I own a color Clie. But, I have to admit that the T415, while having an excellent form factor and new features, has a pathetic screen. I would take my old PIII screen over the T415. It's terrible! Given how poor the visibility is, you have to wonder exactly what kind of crack/heroin/marijuana concoction SONY was ingesting prior to it's release. I've held it up next to 3 other B&W screens and it's just pitiful in the visibility department. Plain and simple. In fact, the thinness of the hi-res fonts actually makes the screen less readable!!! Kinda scary that they could do so something so "right" with my N760C and then do something so "wrong" with the T415 screen.

RE: As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 8:02:21 PM #
That clie complaining club is ran by One_Neuron, or rather One_Moron. he destroyed the Clie Users Club because of his tyranical views.

RE: As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 8:10:25 PM #
>> It's amusing to see the energy these 1 or 2 losers expend trying to bash Sony at every opportunity. You'd think the T415 blah-blah blah-blah blah-blah blah-blah blah-blah

I'm sorry that you purchased a T415. I'm even sorrier that you accidentally sat on the stylus.

RE: As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 9:28:14 PM #
I own an S320 and love it, but I gotta admit Sony had their head up their arse when they released the T415. The screen is terrible, there's just no getting around it.

RE: As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 9:53:04 PM #
The original post in this thread is brought to you by one of the 2 Sony-apologist Palm-haters who continually post to PIC. Probably someone who's pissed that he pre-ordered the T415, got burned, but refuses to admit it. No doubt he was hoping the T415's enhanced infrared could somehow be hacked to enlarge his "package," but alas...things that small simply cannot be helped.

That said, the original poster can go to h***.

RE: As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/10/2002 10:21:25 PM #
> It's amusing to see the energy these 1 or 2 losers
> expend trying to bash Sony

There's at least 1 or 2 Sony owners here doing some bashing. The T415 is that bad.

> Looks like Sony's sudden takeover of the Palm market blah, blah

Uh ... as far as I know Palm and Handspring each individually still sell far more Palm OS handhelds than Sony. I think the bad boys with their Clies are starting to realize that Sony with its one hit wonder hi-res screen won't be at the top much longer.

RE: As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 1:18:38 AM #
I don't get it- I really like the T415 screen. The Hi-Res is wonderful for taking notes and reading ebooks, and with the backlight always on hack, it's readable all of the time too. I don't get why people hate this screen so much.

RE: As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 8:43:57 AM #
Three reasons:

1. Dim without backlight
2. Dim backlight
3. DIM!

What's the value of Hi-Res if you can't see it?

RE: As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 8:46:57 AM #
>"It's amusing to see the energy these 1 or 2 losers expend trying to bash Sony at every opportunity."<

An interesting revisionist take on the comments posted on PIC. Do you even read them? There are FAR more "losers" who spout pro-Sony, anti-Palm tripe. They use phrases like "Sony's sudden takeover of the Palm market" and claim that Sony will be the ONLY manufacturer of Palm OS hardware by "the end of the year." They said that in 2001, yet here we are in 2002 with Palm still around, and the claims continue.

Next time, be honest with YOURSELF as well as with the rest of us.

RE: As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...
mikecane @ 1/11/2002 9:25:52 AM #
Give me -- and everyone else who can see the T415 for what it is -- a break! I own an S320 and am very much looking forward to the T615! But that T415 is just a dog. Maybe the people who have it have been lucky enough to get very good screens (by accident!). All of the screens I've seen in stores are just very, very bad and I can't see how anyone could want that unit. It seems that Sony has caught onto this and will not be releasing the T415 everywhere -- in Singapore, only the T615 is being sold. That's a smart move for Sony. Minimize the error. Now, where is that possibly-lovely T615? (And let's not forget the 16MB S360!)

RE: As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 8:34:58 PM #
perhaps sales arent good not only because of the screen, but sonys false advertising. That screen looked too good to be true on their site, after expecting os much, you get pretty angry to the point you want to return it after seeing the results. PDANature - http://pdan.has.it - Hourly refreshed pda news, reviews, commentarys, software, software update notices, features, etc. http://pdan.has.it



RE: As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2002 2:25:30 AM #

Not Sony bashing here but aside from the dull screen I had other gripes which I'm surprised noone else pointed out.

1. an enhanced speaker but NO microphone.
What the &*&(* are they thinking? They even try to push it off as a device for "professionals" isn't voice memos a widely used feature for the busy execs?
Or did they expect people to fill up their memory sticks of songs in wave format to play through the tiny speaker...

2. stylus size. This may seem a small thing, and yes, it is.
The size of the stylus is not much larger than a toothpick! I feel like a practical joke is being played on me when I hold it in my hand. People who shell out that kind of money for a "professional" PDA typically have adult sized hands.

Sony, ever hear of "Form follows function"? You should drill it into the heads of your designers who can't get enough style into everything they do while forgetting the "human factor"



RE: As usual, the anti-Sony roaches have come out again...
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2002 8:53:39 AM #
GEEZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whata bunch of freakin tossers in here. obsessed with
their stupid gadgets!!! Cna anyone say Romper Room?
LMAO

Get a life and grow up! Dont bicker over such unimportant sheet!!

GH DAVALL


Sony... I like my m505

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 1:23:01 AM #
I still like my M505 I think my screen is good. but I am just an old guy.

RE: Sony... I like my m505
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 8:44:48 AM #
I can hold up my m505 next to a T415, and my m505 suddenly looks A LOT better.

RE: Sony... I like my m505
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 9:01:39 AM #
oh yeah yeah...

While I park my BMW M3 next to a BMW 328i, my M3 looks A LOT better.

What are you guys talking about? You are comparing a B/W screen and a color screen!

RE: Sony... I like my m505
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 11:29:41 AM #
They are just comparing screen quality. That's all.
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RE: Sony... I like my m505
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 3:19:39 PM #
I love the Clie. The reason I got a palm 505 is that it is a rugged tool. Drop a sony and a palm and see witch one is stronger.
The expenson system is better on the M505, not to mention the price.

RE: Sony... I like my m505
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2002 8:56:19 AM #
HeHe LMAO @ the person with the BMW comment!!!

Really,m lets compare a Newton with an Ipaq while we are at it!!! lmao

GH DAVALL


Time to take a look at Handera

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 9:29:05 AM #
The Handera 330 has a TON more features than the T415, a high res B&W screen that is very clear, and only costs $299. Is it any wonder that the T415 sales suck almost as much as the screen it contains? Sony and palm both could take a lesson from Handera: make a great handheld with many many features for a low price. Heck, you can get a refurb TGR pro with a compact flash slot and 8MB RAM for only $99! Why on earth would you buy an m100 for the same money?

RE: Time to take a look at Handera
mikecane @ 1/11/2002 9:36:09 AM #
The H330 is also quite larger than the T415. Some people go for form factor as a primary feature (witness V-series sales).

As for $99 TRGPros -- those aren't in stores, and you expect the unwashed to search the Net for that?

RE: Time to take a look at Handera
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 9:46:07 AM #
I agree. The Handera is too large and the screen resolution is NOT the same as the T415. 320x240 is not the same as 320x320.

Jeez, you would think that these Handera "business users" would know better.

RE: Time to take a look at Handera
jontz @ 1/11/2002 9:58:51 AM #
First off, the user who posted the original comment said that the Handera 330 has a high res screen. He didn't say that it had the same resolution as the Sony. Next time read more carefully. Secondly, you are correct, the Handera is a bit bulky, but then again you can't pack an SD slot, a complact flash slot, jog dial, etc. into a palm V size package. It just depends on what your needs are.

RE: Time to take a look at Handera
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 10:23:58 AM #
> The Handera is too large and the screen resolution is
> NOT the same as the T415. 320x240 is not the same as 320x320.

You're right. The HandEra's screen is not the same, it's way better. If Palm, HandEra, whoever stuck just the 330's screen in an m500 device it would sell in droves. I think many people would take form over the features/expansion of the 330 and greyscale is not dead yet. Me, I'd take the features/expansion of the 330, but most would love a slick m500 form device with that nice HandEra screen.

If you want a no-nonsense PDA, those $99 TRGpros are killers. For $150 you could get a TRGpro with a 128MB CF card, or for $250 total you could be roaming with a TRGpro and an 802.11b card. It won't get much better than that any time soon.



RE: Time to take a look at Handera
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 10:37:23 AM #
Actually, the T415 packs Hi-Res (at a higher resolution than the HE300), a jog dial, a MS slot, an enhanced speaker, enhanced IR, all in a package smaller than a Palm V. And, while only currently available in Japan, there is a CF sled available for the T400/T600 series.

RE: Time to take a look at Handera
mikecane @ 1/11/2002 11:23:42 AM #
That CF sled is limited to using wireless net cards. It'd probably have to be hacked to use conventional CF.

RE: Time to take a look at Handera
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 11:33:10 AM #
The new parachute will probably extend that when they release more support for the device.
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RE: Time to take a look at Handera
Ed @ 1/11/2002 11:39:45 AM #
Sorry, according to my contact at Sony, there are no plans to release the CF sled anywhere but Japan. This isn't Sony's usual "We don't discuss unannounced products." He made it pretty clear that the CF sled was going to stay Japan-only. Of course plans can change but that's what it would take: a complete change in plan.

---
News Editor
RE: Time to take a look at Handera
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 11:56:21 AM #
That's exactly what they said about a color version of T415, but 1 month later the announce the color version in Japan. (now everywhere in asia)

RE: Time to take a look at Handera
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2002 8:58:48 AM #
HAHAHAHAHA
Shadddupp ya bunch of tossers!!!

Geeze Wally, go get a life and throw that sheet in the wind!!! lmao

GH DAVALL


Time to get a life!

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 11:39:01 AM #
Oh I am so hurt all the Sony fans are upset! Yes, SOny makes a great handheld, but its like owning a Ferrari body without the motor.


RE: Time to get a life!
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 11:52:16 AM #
"but its like owning a Ferrari body without the motor."

You mean Palm OS or Dragonball procesor is not good enough for Sony's hardware ? The only "motor" in computer is either the CPU or the OS. Hope you think through your insults before typing it next time.

RE: Time to get a life!
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 12:55:16 PM #
Its like owning a Ferrari in summer sunny Florida without AC.....


Is that better for you?

RE: Time to get a life!
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/11/2002 2:37:19 PM #
Oh yes the Dragaon"noballs" processor that is being scrapped for the strong arm this year is a very capable processor. Ummm lets see WASTE $400 for a unit that is going to have last years technology. I bet you drive a Mustang GT, ya know same sh*t just another tacky shell!


RE: Time to get a life!
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2002 9:00:48 AM #
WOW!!!

I see stupidity runs rampant in here!! We need a few more wise and sensible people like Mike Cane to post in here, versus these whining, drivelin, kiddies!!!

Are there any mature people with 'valuable' comments
concerning the Palm Os, in here???

Geeze

GH DAVALL


RE: Time to get a life!
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/13/2002 11:18:11 PM #
Technically, the only motors in a Ferrari would be for the wipers, washer pump, starter, and power window lifts if so equipped. That thing under the hood that makes it go is called an engine.

give me a good grayscale device

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2002 5:24:49 AM #
If Sony had equipped the T415 with a screen at least as nice as the m500, I would have traded up in a minute, for the higher resolution. But the T415 screen is just awful, worse than entry-level Palm devices. What good are all those pixels if you can't see them? I don't want color on my handheld (price, battery life). Sony: give us a good grayscale device at 320x320.

RE: give me a good grayscale device
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2002 2:45:13 PM #

Dude, just go with the Handera 330. You'll love the virtual graffiti and the hi res screen is excelent. OK< so its a little bigger than the Sony or m50x but its not a brick by any means. Just think of all the extra gizmos you can slap onto that CF slot and still have a memory card present.

trust me....

PRice drop

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2002 11:44:02 PM #
THey droped the price so there was a diffrence in the price between the t425 and the t615, and becasue they need to compete with the visor edge. Also all you crackers who complain about the screen, have you ever really seen one or are you just following something you read? ALso if you answered yes to that what about have you seen it some were other then a store...because this screen is great...yes es it is great, so stop bitching because you are stuk in your own world were Palm Inc. is king, because it is not there is a new ruler and Sony is it.

RE: PRice drop
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/12/2002 11:54:46 PM #
Uhhh, look at my note further up where I sat down with my Handera and my friends T415....If you think that the 415's screen is great, I'm glad for you. As for those still trying to make a decision, the Handera's screen blows the doors off the Sony. No contest.

RE: PRice drop
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/13/2002 10:57:38 PM #
I have to agree with the second poster, the t415 screen is not only the "least readable" PDA screen I have seen to date, it is also slow and unresponsive. During a test load, the Sony trumpet screen capture was installed on multiple devices. Although the image was made to advertise the T415, it looked better on every other device. On launcher menu changes, you can actually see the icons forming. Although I don't have a HandEra (my work requires color), it's screen, speaker, and expansion are exceptional.

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