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Buy.com doesn't sell sony clie's, so the palm would have to win. More importantly the palm is winning hands down compared to Pocket PC.

I say, let's band together my brothers, It doesn't matter if your CLIE or Palm! (I like that one, I came up with it ALL BY MYSELF LOL) All that matters is that Palm Powered Whoops PocketPC to next year!

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PALM POWERED!!!

> Sorry guys, but all the ranting and raving on this board does not change the fact that people like the overall m515 package better than the CLIE.

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Obviously, the only thing you should feel sorry about is that you failed CRITICAL THINKING in school. It really makes you look stupid.

It's important to read other people's comments before posting your own. You'd see that Buy.com doesn't sell Sonys.

But you are right about PPC.

I continue to be amazed by the lack of critical thinking and common sense by people who think they're technologically savvy.

The original poster's argument (if you can call it that) is so full of holes you can drive a dump truck through it...

Did it ever occur to the original poster that Buy.com makes up this list to move merchandise? Did it ever occur that Buy doesn't sell Clies? Did it ever occur to the poster that this "list" isn't even statistically significant? I could go on and on?

There are enough people that don't believe in evolution and that the sun revolves around the earth because experts and holy books say so. I expect better from the posters to this board, but I guess my expectations were too high. School ain't what it used to be.

It's time to think and think critically.

<< I agree, there has been way to much infighting. It doesn't matter if your handheld is made by Sony, Handspring, Palm, Samsung, whatever, as long as it runs the Palm OS, it's great in my book. >>

I agree completely. Unfortunately, it seems that people are so obsessed with the idea of "my PDA is better" that they can't look past this. Sony users appear to insist that because Sony's offerings are more feature rich, etc., that this somehow means Palm's offerings are bad. The truth is, Sony's are better, but Palms are still good.

On the other side, Palm users are unwilling to admit that their PDA is simply not as good as the Sonys. As a result, they look for ways to "tear" the Sonys down--buttons, stylus, "washed-out reds," etc.

It'd be nice if we could all admit that there are a variety of machines out there, with a variety of features, and as long as they have the PalmOS, then they're good devices.

<< Sorry guys, but all the ranting and raving on this board does not change the fact that people like the overall m515 package better than the CLIE. >>

Here's a rational, flame-retardant response to this. Because Buy.com doesn't sell Clies, you can't conclude that people like the Palm BETTER than the Clie. What you SHOULD have said is this:

"Sorry guys, but all the ranting and raving on this board does not change the fact that people still like the overall m515 package." You could also point out that even though Buy.com doesn't sell Clies, it's not the ONLY source of PDAs on the internet. People who seek Clies can go elsewhere, but they don't--they go to Buy.com and purchase a Palm m515 more often than any other PDA right now. This, at least, shows that the m515 is very popular.

I don't want to join the arguement.

But when I passed HK earlier this year, Clies
are the hot Palms there. I think
Sony probably have more than half the Palm market share
there now.

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You are saying that the requirement to write a short paragraph is a more significant statement of preference than actually buying a handheld? That's how people "vote" on Buy.com.

Anyway, the majority of readers at PDABuzz are PPC users. You only have to read over the comments to get that. It's like going to a Young Republicans meeting and asking whether people prefered George Bush or Al Gore.

"You are saying that the requirement to write a short paragraph is a more significant statement of preference than actually buying a handheld? That's how people "vote" on Buy.com.
Anyway, the majority of readers at PDABuzz are PPC users. You only have to read over the comments to get that. It's like going to a Young Republicans meeting and asking whether people prefered George Bush or Al Gore."

Wow - two specious analogies in one post.

First, how do you "vote" for the Clie on Buy.com when it's not even on the ballot? The point of writing a critique, as you must on PDABuzz.com is that you can't stuff the ballot box.

Second, if in fact the "majority of readers" (and you took that survey WHEN?) are PPC users, it says something that PPC users picked 6 Palm OS devices in their Top 10 (3 Sony, 2 Palm, 1 HandEra). So I guess what that means, to use your Young Republicans metaphor is that 60% of the Young Republicans prefer Al Gore to George Bush.

By the way, looking at today's PDABuzz homepage, under Headlines, there are 5 Palm stories and 1 PPC. Under news stories there are 2 palm stories and 0 PPC stories. And in their discussion groups, there are 68K palm posts and 56K PPC posts. So I don't see how you can claim a PPC slant to that website.

If Buy.com list is a poor representation the Amazon.com is likely a better representation. Palm seems to outsell Sony at Amazon...

I own several Palm's and two Sony CLIEs... and I like both of their products for different reasons. The high resolution screen on the CLIE T615 is my favourite reason. The more asthetic form factor of the m505/515 and the smaller size of the expansion memory is my reason for liking the Palm. It's just a matter of taste.

"But when I passed HK earlier this year, Clies
are the hot Palms there."

Yeah alot of kids buy Clie there, specially N7xx becasue of the mp3 player and high res screen, it's actually quite a good deal, And most adults there don't even believe palm could do anything useful. So basically Sony is gaining alot of ground (for palm) in most part of asia.

I'm disappointed with my m515. Yes it is brighter, but the edges are shadowed and dark. I took my unit to Best Buy and compared it with 2 others and they are the same. I notified Palm of my disappointment and asked why? This unit is NO quantium leap, in fact had I not already sold my m505, I would have shipped the m515 back and waited to see what Palm has next in line to release. I can assure you, if I didn't have all of the extra goodies (keyboard, extra cradle and ALL THAT SOFTWARE) I would be buying a Compaq Ipaq Pocket PC.

...of course, you can always tell the Sony employees by their willingness to rally to the defense of their beloved company as well as their...ah...unique grammar. Hey, sing us the company song, salaryman. Anata no eego ga iijanai da, ne?

Amazon Top Handhelds
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5182288

1. Palm M515
2. Compaq IPAQ 3765
3. Palm M100
4. Sony PEG-T615CL
5. Compaq iPAQ 3835
6. Palm M130
7. Targus Stowaway Keyboard
8. HP Jornada 720
9. HP Jornada 568
10.Palm Vx
11.Palm M505
12.Palm i705
etc.
24.Palm IIIc

but, without qualifing information, this isn't that useful.

nategall says "blah!"

Ahhh...apples to apples.