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Rifle slugs is an explosive slug-killing game based on the classic game Worms. It has a wide arsenal of weapons, a wide range of options, settings, and configurations, plus some humerous slug commentary. PIC Reviewer Pepper, brings us this review.
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Good but I long for Snails

jmpage2 @ 11/12/2002 9:28:47 PM #
I really liked Worms for the PC. The game "Snails" for the PPC is fantastic... very good graphics and excellent sound. I hope that a port makes it to the new Palm OS 5 devices.
RE: Good but I long for Snails
Massman82 @ 11/13/2002 3:47:37 PM #
It will (I've talked with the developers)


Roman Pedan
Palm V/Vx
Will get a Palm OS 5 handheld

RE: Good but I long for Snails
SwissFreek @ 11/14/2002 12:23:13 AM #
There is also a company making a direct port of the licensed version of Worms World Party, with all the weapons and whatnot, exactly like the PC version (World Party is the latest release of Worms). I think I saw the blurb posted here on PIC somewhere. It's supposed to come out sometime early next year.

this is the worst game ever

archtelamon @ 11/12/2002 9:28:35 PM #
1) This game is slow
2) The developers are a-holes who have no concept of customer service at all. I emailed them for support(IE HOW DO YOU MAKE IT GO FASTER AND HOW DOES IT WORK?) and i still haven't gotten any word back from them.
3) The game is confusing. I don't have time to fiddle with a program i want to select a gun, a target and push kill. This program is so confusing i can't figure out to do this.
4) Its big...too big...i have a bout 200 ebooks on my palm pilot. I have about 300k left and im not gonna remove some good books so i can play this game. But thats my problem now isn't it.

This game is worth about 1 dollar. I am seriously thinking about paying people NOT to buy this game it is so bad. I am sending this game back to Paragon who i hope will give me a refund. Although I seriously doubt it because these guys are complete jerks to everyone. I hope that no one buys this program and if you do...i feel so sorry for you.

Its good to walk a mile in other people's shoes, because then your a mile away from them and you have their shoes. -Me. I invented it. No one else did.

RE: this is the worst game ever
TDS Computer @ 11/12/2002 11:51:44 PM #
gosh... Tell us how you REALLY feel!

Visit us at www.tdscomputer.com
RE: this is the worst game ever
markgm @ 11/13/2002 12:14:09 AM #
Speed seems great on the nx70v, if only sony included hi-res assist with this model, then the screen would display properly.

Customer Service was RE: this is the worst game ever
devildoc @ 11/13/2002 1:11:32 AM #
I don't know where you are, but I'm in Southern California and Paragon Software is in Moskva, Rossiya and as somebody who has dealt with their customer service, I can agree that it is slow. Writing your email in Russian speeds up service.
To tell you the truth, BlueNomad, Skyscape and HandEra are the only PalmOS companies that I have encountered with timely and true customer service. Handspring, Sony, ThinkOutside, CuttingEdge.....all make me long for M$ tech support.

Just my USD$0.02,




RE: this is the worst game ever
ChiefPilot @ 11/13/2002 1:45:15 AM #
Gesh, if you were as professional with them as you were in posting the message, I wouldn't want to respond to you either.


advertising antics?
ardiri @ 11/13/2002 2:58:53 AM #
i dont know about you guys, but, i received SPAM from the authors to all 5 of my email accounts (which, i have used since developing for palm). i personally think their advertising technique was totally un-ethical.

as for the game, well, i was distracted by the advertising spree so i haven't installed it. :)

// az
aaron@ardiri.com
http://www.ardiri.com/
http://www.mobilewizardry.com/

RE: this is the worst game ever
paragon @ 11/13/2002 5:25:59 AM #
My dear ardiri!

You forgot to provide public here with one small, but very piquant detail:
you received our messages on your accounts you use on Palm OS crackers and hackers forums. I almost sure that some of these messages were E-mails with warnings about using modified copies of RifleSLUGs game on your Palm.
Can you argue the fact that your name is appeared on crackers and hackers forums?
If you can't agrue this fact, I think all your arguments against us and our new product don't have any value at all. The real fact is that you DON'T like to pay for software you use. All other things are idle talk and nothing else.

My best wishes to you,
Michael Fadeev
RifleSLUGs development team


What a nonsence?
Koozia @ 11/13/2002 6:14:51 AM #

Oh, I see! A guy , who have already read 200 ebooks (no more than 200, I suppose, because they do not fit into his palm pilot memory!), can not find the right tap to select a gun!

Your post is absolutely lack of logic, if you think a little! :)

By the way, if you do not like the game so much, why have you purchased it? ;)

RE: this is the worst game ever
ardiri @ 11/13/2002 6:25:47 AM #
> You forgot to provide public here with one small,
> but very piquant detail: you received our messages
> on your accounts you use on Palm OS crackers and
> hackers forums. I almost sure that some of these
> messages were E-mails with warnings about using
> modified copies of RifleSLUGs game on your Palm.

ok. this annoyed me :) so, lucky, i *found* a copy of one of the emails that was sent to me:

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From palm_support@penreader.com Thu Oct 17 06:10:23 2002
Return-Path: <palm_support@penreader.com>
Subject: New RifleSLUGs game for Palm OS
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:10:21 +0400

New RifleSLUGs game for Palm OS

World Palm OS community has been waiting for this game for so long!

Today Paragon Software (Smart Handheld Devices Division) officially announces the release of RifleSLUGs game, a step-by-step strategy for Palm OS 3.5-4.1 based devices.

The picturesque landscapes turned into a battlefield when enemy came to the land of yellow slugs. Aliens are red, cruel and skillful. Your troops are ready and rifleslugs are in anticipation of fight. Shoot everything that crawls!

More detailed information about RifleSLUGs as well as FREE demo version of the program is available at RifleSLUGs page.
----

i have *never* registered on your site for SPAM. so, what does this email above have to do with 'cracked' versions of your software? i got the above email to *all* my email accounts.

> Can you argue the fact that your name is appeared
> on crackers and hackers forums? If you can't agrue
> this fact, I think all your arguments against us
> and our new product don't have any value at all.
> The real fact is that you DON'T like to pay for
> software you use. All other things are idle talk
> and nothing else.

what are you implying here? i never received "warnings" about cracked versions of your software - hell, we all know they exist, and, well, quite frankly, thats *your* problem. in regards to the fact that i dont pay for software; well, i'd like to know where you got those stats from. i normally, exchange software with developers (swapping via PEF) so; i dont need to *pirate* software. please, do get your facts straight!

and, to be honest, if i wanted worms on the palm, i'd write it myself; you, of all people should know that. maybe i should do a worms clone, release it for free just to ruin your market? *g*

// az
aaron@ardiri.com
http://www.ardiri.com/
http://www.mobilewizardry.com/

RE: this is the worst game ever
ardiri @ 11/13/2002 6:39:08 AM #
another SPAM incident:

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From Michael_Fadeev@penreader.com Mon Oct 7 05:39:55 2002
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:55:31 +0400
From: Michael Fadeev <Michael_Fadeev@penreader.com>
Subject: Worm for Palm OS - How will it be?

The game is called "Global WORMing". Now it is in beta-testing stage. The product will be released early next week.

Sure, we'll post the news on www.palminfocenter.com

The screen-shots of our Worms for Palm OS are available here:
http://www.penreader.com/PalmOS/Global_WORMing.html

Best regards,
Michael Fadeev
Marketing manager of Paragon Software in Dolgoprudnyj/Moscow region
---

i believe you SPAMMED everyone who posted back when some beta screen shots were released; so, feeling real ethical right now?

// az
aaron@ardiri.com
http://www.ardiri.com/
http://www.mobilewizardry.com/

RE: this is the worst game ever
archtelamon @ 11/13/2002 7:07:39 AM #
Um, refering to the board of which you talk of. It clearly states that you cannot enter the board if you are a developer you cannot enter it. Also many of the so called crackers promote buying software. One of them once said that the best game is "cracking". It is the losers that are the leeches of this group which steal the apps and don't pay for them. I must say that i have always bought my software. I too received the email from Paragon who advertised its crap ass product to me. I believe that Paragon is perhaps the most unethical company. I will also say that Aardi is the best developer for Palm OS because he is active on the boards and his service is always quick and speedy. When I worked on the VTech Helio his assistance was always there, buy his stuff

Its good to walk a mile in other people's shoes, because then your a mile away from them and you have their shoes. -Me. I invented it. No one else did.
RE: this is the worst game ever
ardiri @ 11/13/2002 7:17:32 AM #
> Um, refering to the board of which you talk of.
> It clearly states that you cannot enter the board if you are a developer you cannot enter it.

hey, i *found* that board, and busted someone chops for distributing some lemmings level packs *g* [if you are a member - you'll know what i am referring to]. well, the concept of a forum that doesn't allow developers may be nice in theory, but, we will always find a way to enter :) its nice to know what is happening in the underground (yes, apps are cracked; but, better to know of them than not to); but, more to the point (re: paragon), i *created* my account on that board three days ago; i received SPAM months before... nice argument, but, no cigar.

// az
aaron@ardiri.com
http://www.ardiri.com/
http://www.mobilewizardry.com/

RE: this is the worst game ever
paragon @ 11/13/2002 7:27:48 AM #
Dear Ardiri!

I see that I was not completely right about your case.
I'm really sorry, I din't recognize you while posting my first message.
Could you send me an E-mail? I would like to discuss the situation and the problem in more details.

I have also some ideas to discuss with you.

I'm looking forward to your E-mail.

Michael Fadeev
RifleSLUGs development team

RE: this is the worst game ever
hot @ 11/13/2002 8:28:51 AM #
hi guys what are u talking about ? i never had any problems with paragon . well once i had some problem getting the software from them but everything was fixed in a couple of hours despite the fact that i am in USA and they are in Russia .

the game is pretty cool , i was waiting for worms for so long that now i am happy and u guys here are bubbling around !

--------
You live only once...

RE: RE: this is the worst game ever
Koozia @ 11/13/2002 8:51:02 AM #

WOW! What I see! archtelamon had spill the beans! He is doing advertising for another company! :)))))

P.S.: I think, he'd got a pretty good shoes from someone! ;)

RE: this is the worst game ever
Psikotic @ 11/13/2002 10:29:40 AM #
Who doesn't know how to play worms? And stranger yet, who keeps 200 ebooks in ram?

RE: this is the worst game ever
Konstantin @ 11/13/2002 11:51:45 AM #
Guys please behave. Dont do dirty laundry in here. If you like the game its ok, if not - who cares? Tho its kinda fun to see you fight , lol :)

RE: this is the worst game ever
Fernando @ 11/13/2002 3:42:35 PM #
This has to be the weirdes post i've ever seen!...

RE: this is the worst game ever
visorprismman @ 11/13/2002 4:20:47 PM #
Ardiri,

Make a clone of wormz :-). What forums are you a member of. Rifleslugz is nice but it does get boring and is too big. It will not be on my palm for long. It is just nice to look at.

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Cheers

RE: this is the worst game ever
JaeC @ 11/29/2002 8:42:46 AM #
I lost my serial number, can anybody help me out and give it to me,
Thanks,
JaeC

RE: this is the worst game ever
Fly-By-Night @ 11/29/2002 9:35:23 AM #
And I lost my CD copy of Windows XP down the back of the sofa. Can someone send me a copy of theirs, with the codes if possible?

FBN

AI seems lacking to me

stephen007 @ 11/13/2002 5:37:01 PM #
Okay, I played the game for quite some time and just recently registered it.

Problem I have is that the game's AI seems to be too basic. In "pawn" mode I always win, hands down. That's to be expected. But, in "knight" mode (the medium setting for difficulty) it's too damned hard. I miss one of their guys with my gun but they hit me _every single time_. They never miss.

Personally I couldn't tell any difference between "knight" mode and "rook" mode. They both spanked me every which way.

Another beef I have is that the computer _always_ uses the standard big gun. It never tries any of the other gun options. That makes it get boring more quickly.

My take: the game is fun for awhile but doesn't have any long term appeal because of the above problems.

Stephen

RE: AI seems lacking to me
SwissFreek @ 11/14/2002 12:40:17 AM #
From what I read on thier website, the enemy is _supposed_ to always use the one big gun. Guess it makes AI simpler but you are right that it gets old pretty quickly. I'm waiting for the World Party port myself...

RE: AI seems lacking to me
Jennie @ 11/14/2002 6:58:42 AM #

Well, you can not expect the game for such a small device to be similar to the game for desktop PC. Besides, this is the first version. Guys from Paragon promised to improve it greatly: hi-res support, improved AI, different weapons etc. They say, it should come out by the Christmas.

As for me, I am having fun with this game and waiting for the next version :) And I like it!

---
Jennie

RE: AI seems lacking to me
JaeC @ 11/29/2002 8:40:46 AM #
I lost my serial number to Rifle Slugs. I'm asking if you can help me out and give me the number.
Thanks
JaeC

RE: AI seems lacking to me
Fly-By-Night @ 11/29/2002 9:34:43 AM #
Oh really!

FBN

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