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penny for a palm pre plus deal amazon A week after posting about a $49 deal, Amazon.com has now pushed the AT&T flavored Palm Pre Plus into penny phone territory. Not even on the market for more than a fortnight, the discount is only good for orders placed online with new two year service agreements.

The "Penny for a Pre" Amazon deal is also good for Verizon customers as well, however the Sprint version of the original Pre is currently being offered for $79.

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Family Plan

He||Raiser @ 5/24/2010 7:55:59 PM # Q
Has anyone bought one of these Amazon deals and merged it into their family plan? Was it a hassle? Or does AT&T's customer service handle it easily?
RE: Family Plan
RobertoV6 @ 5/25/2010 7:30:55 AM # Q
They should be able to handle it smoothly as long as the phone is under the same name or account.
I went thru that experience 4 years ago and it was preety easy.
RE: Family Plan
jms001 @ 5/25/2010 7:22:26 PM # Q
I have a family plan and I bought one of the AT&T phones from Amazon. The promised deal is that my plan is untouched except that a $30/month data plan is attached to my phone (only my phone) and there is an $18 upgrade charge. Not sure why they would CHARGE me for me to re-up a contract and move to a new phone, but that's what it is.

The reality was that even though I signed up for a data plan, it didn't appear. Without that I wasn't able to activate the phone. But the directions had me call an AT&T rep who was extremely helpful. He found the missing data plan, added it (prorated this bill and then charged a month ahead in the future) and after that the activation went through smoothly.

Haven't seen the new charges appear on my account yet, but I expect them soon.

RE: Family Plan
He||Raiser @ 5/26/2010 2:52:22 AM # Q
I pulled the trigger on a new Pre from Amazon. Had to pay the upgrade price of $50 instead of a penny, but still, it wasn't too bad. This will be my first new Palm in nearly 7 years, ever since I bought my T3 back in Oct. 2003. Finally.
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Sprint Evo 4G sized up alongside the Palm Pre

Gekko @ 5/25/2010 11:52:23 AM # Q

We hear ya. There are a lot of you out there on Sprint who are looking at your Palm Pre and wondering how it would be to hold the Evo 4G in its place. Ask and ye shall receive. After the break are more photos and video of the Android 2.1 Evo 4G alongside the webOS-based Palm Pre. It's not really a fair fight at this point, but at least they got in the ring.

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-evo-4g-sized-alongside-palm-pre


RE: Sprint Evo 4G sized up alongside the Palm Pre
mikecane @ 5/25/2010 6:09:44 PM # Q
RE: Sprint Evo 4G sized up alongside the Palm Pre
Gekko @ 5/28/2010 5:45:09 PM # Q

one week from today i should have my EVO 4G in my hands.

my history of Palm devices has been -

Palm III, IIIx, V, m505, m515, T/T, T3, T5*, Treo 600*, Treo 650, Treo 700p, Centro 64MB, Pre*, Centro 128MB

*Returned/Rejected

i'm ready to jump ship for good!

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esn

richf @ 5/25/2010 5:36:46 PM # Q
Why are the ebay sellers posting the esn of the Pre they are selling? Can anyone recommend an ebay seller that is straight as an arrow or you have dealt with in the past? Bottom line I don't want to deal with a crook.
I hate stupid people and sincerely pray this doesn't fall into that category.
Thanks in advance.
Have a nice day!
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->Pilot Pro->IIIe->IIIc->M500->M505->M515->TC->T3->T5->Treo 650P->Treo 700P->Droid
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migrate to the cloud

Gekko @ 5/25/2010 8:24:39 PM # Q

great free service to help you migrate your data to the cloud -

http://wiki.nuevasync.com/wiki/bin/view/Public/palmOSConfiguration

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who cares -- here's a foleo on ebay

Poopie @ 5/25/2010 11:05:59 PM # Q
http://cgi.ebay.com/Palm-Foleo-SUPER-RARE-PALM-nostalgia-its-best-/300429398408?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item45f2fcd188


... were there really only 100? :)
USR Palm Pilot 1000 -> Palm Pilot Professional -> TRG SuperPilot -> Palm IIIc -> Palm V -> Palm M505 -> Palm M515 -> Tungsten T|2 -> Treo 600 -> LifeDrive -> iPhone

RE: who cares -- here's a foleo on ebay
richf @ 5/26/2010 7:48:28 AM # Q
Holy crap batman. What is this thing worth? Is this for real and how did this guy get it? I'd love to have it. Is there an accountant in the crowd, is this a legal investment for my ira. Sorry I got so excited but I will try to act my age now. Would it be tacky to ask him to include a document stating the origination of this thing? Questions, questions how do we get this guy on this forum for a few war stories? Attention Admin.
Have a nice day!
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->Pilot Pro->IIIe->IIIc->M500->M505->M515->TC->T3->T5->Treo 650P->Treo 700P->Droid
RE: who cares -- here's a foleo on ebay
hkklife @ 5/26/2010 8:01:37 AM # Q
SUPPOSEDLY there was a warehouse full of these things ready to go in full retail packaging etc. Definitely there were more than 100---possibly a thousand or more of them. I don't think Palm had commenced mass production of it but the design & packaging were definitely finalized.

LinuxDevices (and Ryan as well I think) saw a table full of "final" units back in summer '07 so that's certainly plausible:

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/files/misc/palm_foleo_wind_river_sdk.jpg

That said, IIRC, Palm recalled all of the demo/eval/dev units that were floating around out there when the Fooleo was axed. I am certain that some, though not a huge amount, slipped through the cracks. Now that the "old" Palm fading into oblivion, I think we may see more things like unreleased prototype devices, Foleos, Tungsten T4s and other oddities slipping out periodically.
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->Verizon Moto Droid + Verizon Palm Centro

RE: who cares -- here's a foleo on ebay
Poopie @ 5/26/2010 11:16:48 AM # Q
I'd easily pay $150 for a Foleo that was upgraded to webOS or android. Has anyone ever heard of such an upgrade being done?
RE: who cares -- here's a foleo on ebay
Gekko @ 5/26/2010 11:24:37 AM # Q
>I'd easily pay $150 for a Foleo that was upgraded to webOS or android. Has anyone ever heard of such an upgrade being done?

yeah i heard that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are working on it.

RE: who cares -- here's a foleo on ebay
richf @ 5/26/2010 12:35:05 PM # Q
Moot point, went over your price early this afternoon. Sorry.
Have a nice day!
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->Pilot Pro->IIIe->IIIc->M500->M505->M515->TC->T3->T5->Treo 650P->Treo 700P->Droid
RE: who cares -- here's a foleo on ebay
jca666us @ 5/26/2010 4:24:39 PM # Q
wait for the hp tablet - if/when it ever arrives. They'll probably repurpose some foleo ideas into that - wrapped in a nice webos package.
RE: who cares -- here's a foleo on ebay
BaalthazaaR @ 5/26/2010 7:08:36 PM # Q
Just checked it out... It went for $610 +$12 shipping.
RE: who cares -- here's a foleo on ebay
mikecane @ 5/27/2010 9:06:19 AM # Q
I hope who ever bought it will do some detailed posts. Unlike that git who had that Cobalt phone and disappeared.
RE: who cares -- here's a foleo on ebay
BaalthazaaR @ 5/27/2010 12:05:20 PM # Q
mikecane wrote:
I hope who ever bought it will do some detailed posts. Unlike that git who had that Cobalt phone and disappeared.

Here you go Mikey,

http://tinyurl.com/FoleoTranslated

That is the best I can find.

RE: who cares -- here's a foleo on ebay
richf @ 5/27/2010 12:06:58 PM # Q
dear Ryan
Is it possible to find the guy that sold the foleo and the guy who bought it. Sure would make interesting reading. I almost bid on it but no way to sunday I'd spring for 600+ dollars.
Have a nice day!
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->Pilot Pro->IIIe->IIIc->M500->M505->M515->TC->T3->T5->Treo 650P->Treo 700P->Droid
RE: who cares -- here's a foleo on ebay
mikecane @ 5/27/2010 4:47:31 PM # Q
Well, dahyum, finally. And don't call me Mikey, punk.
RE: who cares -- here's a foleo on ebay
Ryan @ 5/28/2010 10:34:45 AM # Q
well if whoever bought it wants to get in touch, I'd be happy to run a piece on it, even just quick pics and impressions.

I've had a couple of folks try to contact me in the past to sell one, while I'd love to add one to the collection and it certainly would be interesting reading if I could get my hands on one, they often want a big pile of green as was the case here too.

My hands on foleo time, consisted of about 15 minutes of lightly checking one out in front of a few Palm VP's (including Hawkins) outside at the D5 launch event where there was no wifi signal and I got lightly scolded for diving into the terminal ;)

http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9439/palm-foleo-hands-on-gallery/

RE: who cares -- here's a fooleo on ebay
Gekko @ 5/28/2010 5:24:46 PM # Q

Introducing the Palm® Fooleo™: "You'd be a fool to buy one."


RE: who cares -- there went a Foleo on eBay
Fake Jeff Hawkins @ 5/29/2010 8:27:29 AM # Q
Is it possible to find the guy that sold the foleo and the guy who bought it. Sure would make interesting reading. I almost bid on it but no way to sunday I'd spring for 600+ dollars.

Why would whoever who sold it (or bought it) want to reveal themselves publicly? The Foleo was canned and Palm would prefer that no one calls attention to the fact that it was ever developed. I've had access to a Foleo in the past and it was a nice piece of hardware hobbled by an OS that needed another year of development and a much faster CPU. Palm rushed it to market because they saw their window of opportunity about to close when the game-changing EeePC arrived. Palm could have had the netbook market all to itself and built up some momentum if only the Foleo could have come out in 2006. Yet another lost opportunity to go along with:

- chance to turn the Treo into a Blackberry killer in 2004
- chance to create an iPod killer PalmOS MP3 player in 2001
- chance to create a PMP in 2003
- chance to create an iPhone killer PDA-sized smartphone in 2004
- chance to create a PalmOS Wi-Fi/cell-connected tablet in 2003
- chance to create a webOS Wi-Fi/cell-connected tablet in 2009

etc.

FJH

RE: who cares -- here's a foleo on ebay
hkklife @ 5/29/2010 9:41:13 AM # Q
- chance to turn the Treo into a Blackberry killer in 2004
Handspring came DANGEROUSLY close with the original Treo 600 despite depleted funds and a ticking clock. But Palm bungled their golden opportunity to improve upon the Treo 600 hardware with 2004's barely-improved Treo 650 which was badly hampered by buggy NVFS, too little RAM, and a bulky formfactor. They then unimaginably dropped the ball even more with the horrid Treo 700p in 2006. That model looked (and performed) like it was 2 years out of date the moment it was released. The iPhone appeared exactly one year later and took any lead Palm had with it.

- chance to create an iPod killer PalmOS MP3 player in 2001
When Sony was blazing a trail of innovation as far back as the Palm OS 3 days with the N710c (and its successors), Palm was screwing around with a bunch of antiquated, feeble designs (aside from the m500 line). The fact that Palm did not bring us an handheld with a 3.5mm stereo headphone jack, standard mp3 player software, and adequate volume/sound quality output until the T|T3 in Nov of 2003 is just pitiful. The T|T should have had it a year earlier and the m515 should've been mp3-capable (use a separate DSP chip etc) before that.

- chance to create a PMP in 2003
Again, the much-loved T|T3 came dangerously close but was hampered by atrocious battery life and the silly slider design. The Tapwave Zodiac was also a nice effort but was doomed from the start due to too much proprietary elements. competition from GameBoy/DS/PSP and the meager resources of Tapwave. Palm should have bought out Tapwave for pennies on the dollar and used a flash-equipped Zod as its basis for the LifeDrive.

- chance to create an iPhone killer PDA-sized smartphone in 2004
See above with the wasted Treo 650 potential.

- chance to create a PalmOS Wi-Fi/cell-connected tablet in 2003
See above with the wasted T|T3/Zod potential. The T|C came tantalizingly close, however. That and the T3 were pretty much the first and only times a Palm Inc. product made me sit up and say WOW! over class-leading specs and performance.

- chance to create a webOS Wi-Fi/cell-connected tablet in 2009
Greed is a terrible thing. Palm management was quite foolish to assume everyone would fall over themselves to sign up/switch/pay ETFs to jump ship to Sprint for a Pre with mediocre specs & even more mediocre performance. However, a $200 (or less) "Pre Touch" would have been just the ticket to get many users (myself included) on the WebOS bandwagon in 2009.
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->Verizon Moto Droid + Verizon Palm Centro

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NEW 128 MB Centro 2 for $90 on eBay!

Fake Jeff Hawkins @ 5/29/2010 8:00:32 AM # Q
If you like PalmOS and you want to keep using it for years to come do yourself a favor and pick up a Centro 2 (the final Sprint version) for $90. (Reputable vendors have sold them for $89.99 in recent weeks, so don't pay over $90 for a new Centro 2.)

If you love PalmOS, this is your best exit strategy besides perhaps StyleTap for iPhoneOS

FJH

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