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At this years Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Sony had their current line up of clies on display as well as a new "prototype" software concept . The new software concept builds on the classic Palm OS PIM functionality, and adds a new level of multimedia and organizational functionality to the personal entertainment organizer. Read on for an overview and live pictures.
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YAAH! First Comment!

Obelix @ 1/22/2004 1:14:16 PM #
But I don't know what to say because I didn't read the article yet :-)

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RE: YAAH! First Comment!
wisdcom @ 1/22/2004 3:29:02 PM #
LOL!

The newton reborn???
mini-me @ 1/22/2004 4:13:49 PM #
Looks like it ;)

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I like it.

sub_tex @ 1/22/2004 1:27:25 PM #
I was holding out for a Clie with landscape, but the new T series is great in every other regard (Well except for that stupid jog dial placement).

This software looks interesting. The handwritten notes in the datebook along with the attaching of voice memos is a BIG plus.



RE: I like it.
T.W.G @ 1/22/2004 7:34:35 PM #
HI,

think the biggest plus is that you can now have your organizer screen looking as chaotic as your real paper filofax ;-))


Thomas


T.W.G www.twgmusic.de

Palm Powered Handheld Reviews from T.W.G at: www.pdaforum.de

Who is behind Sony?

RhinoSteve @ 1/22/2004 1:35:27 PM #
Ok so Sony showed it. I want to know what independant contrator came up with this UI design? Also, did PalmOne or anyone else pass on this before Sony ran with it?
RE: Who is behind Sony?
LiveFaith @ 1/22/2004 2:49:46 PM #
As with most great technological breakthroughs (ie. window computing) ... it was probably invented by Xerox, who found no use for it, presented to Sony and they'll rule the world by 2027. :-)

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com

OS6 Compatible or extended?

dustbunny44 @ 1/22/2004 1:48:25 PM #
Does anyone know how much of this is compatible with, or even identical to, Palm OS6, or is Sony moving in their own direction?
Not having seen any OS6 yet, perhaps this is it.

RE: OS6 Compatible or extended?
Hal2000 @ 1/22/2004 1:52:39 PM #
Yeah, what about os6?

Zodiac2/T616
RE: OS6 Compatible or extended?
bookrats @ 1/22/2004 1:54:47 PM #
I think you've nailed the question of the day. If this isn't showing off the revamped OS 6 datebook/address books/notepad/etc (with a Sony-specific Launcher surrounding it), it means Sony is deciding to ship their own "standard organization apps" instead of PalmSource's.

Which is quite the major break for a Palm-based PDA.

If this is the case, Sony may look at this as a way to differentiate their product line from PalmOne's. And, one way or another, it will (depending on the quality of their offerings.)

----

"I'm warning you ... if you kill me, they'll just send 008!"

Jeff Meyer

RE: OS6 Compatible or extended?
dorelse @ 1/22/2004 2:18:32 PM #
Doesn't that have to be a 'Sony-ized' POS 6? Why would they break out an OS5 model, right before OS 6 is due out...especially given that those side tabs look remarkably like open apps being multitasked...

RE: OS6 Compatible or extended?
LiveFaith @ 1/22/2004 2:52:26 PM #
The TH55 is OS5.x, not 6 right. I too have been getting a nasty feeling lately that standard Palm apps are becoming more & more diverse (improved but incompatible)? From what I've read, PalmOne, not PS upgraded the standard apps on the T3. I assume that Sony etc, will not have them. Will a standard survive?

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: OS6 Compatible or extended?
dorelse @ 1/22/2004 4:31:16 PM #
Got confirmation that this is the new interface for the TH-55 model, which is OS5.

Guess they don't want real pictues of it yet, which is why the metal frames hiding everything but the screens...

RE: OS6 Compatible or extended?
JKingGrim @ 1/22/2004 7:10:16 PM #
Will a standard survive?Yes OS6. One good thing OS6 will do is return to compatibility across devices with unified APIs and modularity. One thing that was said is that in OS6, fields can be added and removed from the Address book database without losing sync compatibility.

RE: OS6 Compatible or extended?
Ezra4no1 @ 1/26/2004 3:02:18 AM #
Whether you like this idea or not, you have to hand it too Sony. It appears to me that Sony is making an effort to bring something creative and new to the Palm OS, even if it will be a feature found only on their PDAs.

palmOne or whatever the heck you want to call them has done nothing more to try and "improve" their original launcher since it was first released, Thank God for third party apps... Something I would think a company as "reputatable" as palmOne would of done more than just sit on a lucky design when they first launched the palm Pilot.

I welcome Sony's added feature.. so as long as they give us control to turn it off if we don't want it and leaves us with plenty of memory left on our PDAs.

RE: OS6 Compatible or extended?
Wollombi @ 1/26/2004 7:50:27 PM #
>" From what I've read, PalmOne, not PS upgraded the standard apps on the T3"<

If you had read a little closer, you would have remembered that PalmOne added the OS6 standard apps to the T3/E units. These are the apps that were origially envisioned for OS6, and will likely still be a well integrated part of it instead of an OS5 kludge.

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Sean

Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.

Does this change the standard app db's?

gregmaass @ 1/22/2004 1:48:25 PM #
I'm hoping to get a TH55, but am a hardcore Datebk5 user. This, and many other apps, rely on the standard palm databases. I'm wondering if Sony has messed with the backend of the standard apps, so that custom apps that rely on datebookDB, ToDoDB, MemoDB, and AddressDB will no longer work. Any info on this?
RE: Does this change the standard app db's?
staceym @ 1/22/2004 4:57:45 PM #
While drawling over my friends T3 I noticed his address book had some extra fields, such as Birth Date. My T615 has an extra field too, a photo (I don't use this field much as each photo has to e stored in RAM and takes up so much memory, which is another point; if the TH55 only has 32mb RAM where is all that extra data (video, photos, drawings) going to go?)

My point is that I can still sync using PilotManager on Solaris as I did my old Palm III. I can also still use several commands that poke around the pdb files. So these extra fields must be stored else where.

I admit to wanting this new device from Sony. My wife asks "Will they bring out one a month later with double the memory capacity which is twice as fast?" Now they wouldn't do that would they X-) I hope they double the RAM before its released...

Awesome Launcher

Hal2000 @ 1/22/2004 1:48:04 PM #
Now this is more like it.Love the 'scribble on datebook' idea and the tabs to all the media. I'm a self appointed closet multimedia catagory junkie. Less taps now!

Zodiac2/T616
RE: Awesome Launcher
LiveFaith @ 1/22/2004 2:56:37 PM #
Looks pretty impressive. Let's see now, whatever happended to that "zen" thing .....

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: Awesome Launcher
katsudon @ 1/22/2004 4:11:56 PM #
This is certainly a very handy launcher, but I am much concerned of its speed.

In my TG-50 when I use AppShell, which is also a very complex and handy launcher, the program takes a significant time to load and show its full screen. I deleted it.

I hope this launcher won't have the same flaw.

RE: Awesome Launcher
Strider_mt2k @ 1/22/2004 5:52:22 PM #
"Looks pretty impressive. Let's see now, whatever happended to that "zen" thing ....."

Simple,
That was Zen, this is now. :D


RE: Awesome Launcher
Hal2000 @ 1/22/2004 8:01:51 PM #
This might be the new Zen.

Zodiac2/T616
RE: Awesome Launcher
;-) @ 1/23/2004 4:40:44 PM #
This might be the new Zen.


Same as the old Zen - only Zennier!


It's just too big.

RE: Awesome Launcher
Wollombi @ 1/26/2004 7:54:45 PM #
>"Looks pretty impressive. Let's see now, whatever happended to that "zen" thing ....."<

Ok, I know it's redundant, but really this IS zen. It is still simple and easy to use while adding functionality. Zen in one of it's best forms.

_________________
Sean

Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.

I am going to need a comprehensive manual...

a3 @ 1/22/2004 1:50:06 PM #
This application seems veeeery complicated it has a lot of things in the same screen. I just hope that it comes with a Clie Organizer for Dummies type of manual. Other than that I can only say that the free hand notes seem very similar to BugMe!.

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Former Tapwave's Helix fan, now a T|T3 fan.
RE: I am going to need a comprehensive manual...
abosco @ 1/22/2004 7:01:37 PM #
>>This application seems veeeery complicated it has a lot of things in the same screen. I just hope that it comes with a Clie Organizer for Dummies type of manual. Other than that I can only say that the free hand notes seem very similar to BugMe!.

Did you download the PDF for the TH55? It includes these applications and has a detailed explaination of how to use them. Seems pretty good. Check it out, you might be interested.

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616

RE: I am going to need a comprehensive manual...
a3 @ 1/23/2004 8:38:10 AM #
Thanks for the tip!

____________________________________________
Former Tapwave's Helix fan, now a T|T3 fan.
RE: I am going to need a comprehensive manual...
billtaiwan @ 2/5/2004 7:10:19 AM #
Where would one find the .pdf of the manual?

This would be great in Landscape

kevdo @ 1/22/2004 3:38:13 PM #
This might be a useful feature for a handheld that runs more in landscape mode, the taskbar in Windows. Looks pretty.

-Kevin Crossman, Palm Powered Software Champion

It's BugMe/Slap Everywhere

Timothy Rapson @ 1/22/2004 5:46:18 PM #
This looks like they have taken many of the features of Bugme and Slap along with some quick connections to photo, video, and audio utility and merged them into their own version of a launcher and Today screen.

I can't imagine how this can be successful. It is just too much to try to cram into one place, but who knows? If it works and is not slow or buggy it will save Clie users a lot of money on third part apps. And if Sony has tested it well, it may be more stable than adding all those separate apps. I like the part that allows you to ditch the whole thing and use your own launcher. It is included free so what is the downside for the user? If you don't like it don't use it. If you do like it, it is a great bargain at the price.

Looks like a paper datebook

wirelessgirl @ 1/22/2004 6:29:46 PM #
Writing notes overtop the day in the datebook in my handwriting looks like my old paper datebook / agenda. It is simply nothing but hell...

-Bia Kunze
http://garotasemfio.blogspot.com

Cross-model Palm Desktop Interoperability?!

gfunkmagic @ 1/22/2004 7:14:19 PM #
Although I am excited about all these new and varying features, I am worried about compatibility of the Palm Desktop syncing various PalmOS devices on one computer? I've already encountered problems trying to sync pda's w/PalmOne's enhanced new PIM with other devices like the Treo600 and am wondering if this only increase in complexity with new devices like the TH55? I wish lisencees would release Palm Desktop "pluggins" instead of entirely new versions that could be added to the default desktop allowing various PalmOS devices to use the same deskop without losing functionality...

I support http://Tapland.com/

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GNM

RE: Cross-model Palm Desktop Interoperability?!
phoneboy @ 1/22/2004 8:14:49 PM #
I agree. I had some problems with my desktop when I switched from a T3 to a UC-50.

Sony Launchers - BAD

phoneboy @ 1/22/2004 8:10:06 PM #
Sony got off to a rough start on making launchers. The 3D launcher on my Clie UX-50 is TERRIBLE! They sacrificed user-friendliness for a cool looking effect. I hope this new stuff is as easy or easier to use than the standard Palm stuff.

RE: Sony Launchers - BAD
abosco @ 1/22/2004 9:41:14 PM #
Agreed, the UX50 launcher seems more like the work of "multimedia-first" Microsoft or flamboyant Europeans rather than the flashy Japanese company. I'm surprised they included such a useless launcher (blue flying orbs??) when the original new launcher in the OS 5 Clies was so useful with the jog dial. That was pure functionality and little eye-appeal. The UX50 has it the opposite.

This new launcher looks okay, but I need to try it first.

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616

RE: Sony Launchers - BAD
joelaposta @ 1/25/2004 7:27:49 AM #
Does anyone really use the built-in launchers anyway? I think they should just include something like Zlauncher instead.

Joe

Palm IIIx -> Palm IIIc -> Palm m505 (x2) -> Clie N760C -> T615C -> Clie NR70 (x2) -> Clie NX70 -> Clie UX50

Did Sony steal "Bullet Train" from Crazy Jake?

Gekko @ 1/22/2004 10:57:16 PM #
RE: Did Sony steal
palmhiker @ 1/23/2004 9:32:21 AM #
Maybe they bugged the office where he gave his infamous "powerpoint presentation on the future of handhelds" to Jeff Hawkins....

RE: Did Sony steal
Wollombi @ 1/26/2004 8:35:24 PM #
Yeah, I seem to remember ol' Jake complaining ceacelessly about how Jeff was sooooo rude to him. Me, the minute he started spouting about retinal scans, cameras tracking your eye movement for navigation and such, I would have called security to remove him, because he's either crazy, an idiot, or a savant. Being Jeff Hawkins, any of the above would be a theat.

Don't get me wrong, there are *some* good ideas there, but he discredits them by taking the whole thing way too far. He's a marketer trying to engineer. Ever seen an engineering dept. tryig to keep their marketing dept. in check?

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Sean

Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.

Sony: YICK!

mikecane @ 1/23/2004 9:57:04 AM #
That's my impression upon studying the screen shots.

First, what the hell happened to half-hour increments?

Second, why the hell do I need to have the time stamped *in* the appointment listing?

Third, when something is starting on a ten (8:50, 9:10), why is there no TIME to the left?

I WANT half-hour time increments!

I DON'T want timestamps in the appointment listing.

I WANT ten-minute times listed to the left.

Sony, what the hell have you DONE?! This looks like it came from MICROSOFT!!

I am hoping that all the things I've listed can be taken care of with Options/Preferences. But knowing Sony...

...this abomination could easily KILL the TH55 for me.

I like Classic Date Book, dammit. If I wanted something like this, I could get it -- with a Pocket PC!

RE: Sony: YICK!
abosco @ 1/23/2004 11:29:31 AM #
Depending which API's Sony decides to use for the screen, you may be able to take DateBook off an NX and put it on there.

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616
Typical screeching from Mr. Cane
;-) @ 1/23/2004 4:58:02 PM #
That's my impression upon studying the screen shots.

First, what the hell happened to half-hour increments?

Second, why the hell do I need to have the time stamped *in* the appointment listing?

Third, when something is starting on a ten (8:50, 9:10), why is there no TIME to the left?

I WANT half-hour time increments!

I DON'T want timestamps in the appointment listing.

I WANT ten-minute times listed to the left.

Sony, what the hell have you DONE?! This looks like it came from MICROSOFT!!

I am hoping that all the things I've listed can be taken care of with Options/Preferences. But knowing Sony...

...this abomination could easily KILL the TH55 for me.

I like Classic Date Book, dammit. If I wanted something like this, I could get it -- with a Pocket PC!


Palminfocenter's comments have taken a nosedive in the last year or two and it seems that every time a new CLIE is released we have to endure dozens of deranged posts from Mr. Cane, screeching about what he perceives to be horrendous flaws in Sony's designs. Take a pill, Mike. Or at least take a deep breath before you type another one of your tedious rants.

Remember: no one cares what YOU think. I repeat: no one cares what Mike Cane thinks. You're a single obsessive person that hasn't even bought a PDA in - what - FOUR YEARS???? If you can find yet another excuse not to buy the latest CLIE, great. But we really don't care. Your post above sounds like it was made by a two year old. (I WANT... I WANT...)

And if you don't like the new launcher, turn it off or use LauncherX, Launcher III, etc. Of course, that would be too simple for you.



It's just too big.

RE: Sony: YICK!
a3 @ 1/23/2004 5:27:45 PM #
As we say in Colombia: Chuuuuuuchi! (which means whoooooa!)

____________________________________________
Former Tapwave's Helix fan, now a T|T3 fan.
RE: Sony: YICK!
;-) @ 1/23/2004 5:38:17 PM #
Escobar will come for you "pardner".

Juan V.
(I am just a poor coffee farmer)


It's just too big.

RE: Sony: YICK!
Agonistes @ 1/24/2004 3:25:35 AM #
as a once avid reader of this site, I totally have to agree with you ";-)." remember two years back when there were actually some useful tips and commeraderie among palm os users? now this site is pretty much a bitch-fest of "why i dislike the latest palm os device" and "can't palm/sony do anything right?"

one of the biggest accelerators to the demise of this site's usefulness is comments from the illustrious mr. cane. i find it amusing that an individual who gets a 30% accuracy rate in his "predictions" still summons the tenacity to promote his opinions as if any of us really care. i wonder if mr. cane is still using is s-series device and if he ever got over the file allocation tables of flash memory cards.



RE: Sony: YICK!
mikecane @ 1/24/2004 12:51:29 PM #
>>>You're a single obsessive person that hasn't even bought a PDA in - what - FOUR YEARS????

-- and look at how effing pathetic YOU are, commenting on MY comments. If they don]t matter, ignore them, you moron stalker! But you can't, can you? That's how fekkin pathetic a shell of an existence you have.

The same for agnostic or whatever his idiot handle is; probably the same guy under multiple accounts. The usual troll/stalker/teenybopper BS.

I wonder what he'll use now that ;-) is dead?

Sigh...
Miss Clie @ 1/24/2004 1:46:50 PM #
Jesus, Mike.

Your overheated response to criticism and your willingness to immediately ad-hom folks just feeds the opinions of you on this site.

Please try to keep a cool head and a mature response, your feedback will be a lot more useful that way.

I don't post often, and I don't usually try to get mixed up in this kind of junk posting, but it is really tiresome.

RE: Sony: YICK!
mikecane @ 1/24/2004 2:23:20 PM #
>>> tiresome.

Then get some bedrest. You won't be missed. (Were you ever noticed?)

Twits (oooh, ad-hom!) like you come out of the woodwork to complain when I *defend* myself. Never when I'm attacked.

Get lost.

RE: Sony: YICK!
Agonistes @ 1/24/2004 3:07:36 PM #
>>...this abomination could easily KILL the TH55 for me.

I like Classic Date Book, dammit. If I wanted something like this, I could get it -- with a Pocket PC!

Your "comments" are more inane ramblings. "Abomination?" "easily KILL?" Ease off the drama pills. If you feel that you have enough information on the TH55 based on these screen shots to make a purchasing decision, then i'm sure that your humble little S320 is safe from replacement.

Some may find the features you find abominable useful. Not all of us have the luxury to idle away the day at best buy and office depot harassing salespeople and scrutinizing handhelds. Not everyone's schedule is divided in half-hour chunks.

as for my "idiotic handle" the name's agonistes, and if you ever read anything beyond shampoo labels and penthouse forum letters you'd understand. here's a clue, it's from john milton. and so that your atrophied little mind doesn't go beserk in figuring that out, he was an english renaissance poet/writer.


Miss Clie:
Hal2000 @ 1/24/2004 5:45:15 PM #
You go girl

Zodiac2/T616
RE: Sony: YICK!
abosco @ 1/24/2004 9:30:42 PM #
>>remember two years back when there were actually some useful tips and commeraderie among palm os users?

Oh yeah, I remember back then...
"CLIE SUX!! M505 ALL THE WAY!! THE SCREEN IS BRIGHT, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!"
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN? M505 SUX!! WHO NEEDS 16 BIT COLOR? THE N710C HAS HI-RES AND MP3, IT R0X0RZZZ!!!"
"BOTH OF YOU ARE WRONG!! VISOR PRISM IS THE BESTEST EVER - IT HAS 16 BIT COLOR AND A TRANSLEMISIVLE SCREEN IT IS SO MUCH BETTER AND IT HAS SPRINGBOARD AND THAT RULES SO MUCH MORE THAN THE M505 AND THE CLIE COMBINED!!!"

Please... there's always going to be your inane banter from people who love to argue (myself included), the people who love to complain about everything new that comes out, the people who love everything that comes out and hates all criticism, the self-proclaimed first posters with nothing really to say (love those!), the people who point out typos in reviews, the people who complain that the review didn't come fast enough, the people who tell everybody else to chill, the trolls, and the people who really don't have any idea what they're saying and like to see their name up there because it makes them feel special. Come on, it's commonplace everywhere.

To say this place has gone downhill because of *one* man is moronic. These are comments - you're going to find opinions from every single person who wants to take advantage of this feature. If you don't want to listen to a guy's ramblings, don't read his articles. I get a kick out of his bad predictions and ripping on him incessantly. Makes it all that much more fun, sometimes. Do we really need to be a bunch of boring stiffs? Should we all shut up when what we want hasn't been achieved by a particular company and we want to speak up and have them hear it? Come on, be realistic. Mike is loud. He wants something that's solid and works to his requirements, and when the companies don't make what he wants, he'll reinforce his requirements and requests. You flame him (man I hate that phrase) for his ramblings, he'll get you back. If you don't realize this and try anyway and blame him for the retaliation again, geez, you haven't learned anything. Just let the man complain! He likes it!

THERE.. my rambling is done. For that. Next thing..

>>now this site is pretty much a bitch-fest of "why i dislike the latest palm os device" and "can't palm/sony do anything right?"

There's a reason for this. It's because Sony has given us absolute crap all of 2003, and at the first hint of something to look forward to in Sony's upcoming release, we're going to expect it to be very good. If it's not, we're going to have to look at PalmOne and their horrible quality control issues. If we get past them, then we look at PPC. We see the OS, shudder, look at Linux, shudder at the apps available, look at Symbian and Smartphone, shudder at *everything* about them, and then we're back at Palm OS. It's the second-hand circle of life.

Can we all just cut the **** and realize this is the way it is, the way it always has been, and the way it's always going to be? Life sucks, then you die!

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616

RE: Sony: YICK!
;-) @ 1/24/2004 9:47:08 PM #
>>> tiresome.

Then get some bedrest. You won't be missed. (Were you ever noticed?)

Twits (oooh, ad-hom!) like you come out of the woodwork to complain when I *defend* myself. Never when I'm attacked.

Get lost.


Takes a REAL man to attack a woman on the Internet. You reach new depths every day, Cane. Disgusting.



It's just too big.

Code Blue: nutcase loose at Palminfocenter
;-) @ 1/24/2004 11:52:46 PM #
Oh yeah, I remember back then...

- First of all, Tabasco, I seriously doubt you "remember back" when Palminfocenter was in its heyday, since you were all of nine years old in 2001.

- Secondly, did you just come across a copy of HTML for dummies?

- Thirdly, your defense of the cretin, Mr. Cane is touching, but as any psychologist knows, children often try to defend an abusive parent. Miss Clie politely made a valid post and this nutcase flipped out on her for no reason. And this is who Palminfocenter editor allows to post "articles" here? Pathetic, but now the norm around here since Ed left.

Fourthly, if you keep bashing Palm for having horrible quality control, they might just remove your pride and joy from their site. Don't make me have to show this post to Palm's Michael "The Apologist" Mace.

Try to do better, Baby Tabosco.


It's just too big.

RE: Sony: YICK!
abosco @ 1/25/2004 12:15:14 AM #
>>First of all, Tabasco, I seriously doubt you "remember back" when Palminfocenter was in its heyday, since you were all of nine years old in 2001.

Right. Nine years old, you caught me. The site's profile feature for attributing age is in ranks, which are 13-17, 18-24, etc, and by default, it displays the lowest value. I'm not 13, and I have been here for two years. I hung around for a few months as an IMA poster prior to registration.

>>Secondly, did you just come across a copy of HTML for dummies?

It was the easiest way to differentiate the different voices of the long-passed screamers. I didn't want the slow people (IE: you) to misunderstand it as one person saying it.

>>Thirdly, your defense of the cretin, Mr. Cane is touching, but as any psychologist knows, children often try to defend an abusive parent. Miss Clie politely made a valid post and this nutcase flipped out on her for no reason.

I wasn't defending him, I was saying shut up politely, and in a long, drawn out way, since this always happens and there's no use complaining about that every time it happens. Whoops, I used HTML again. For shame.

>>And this is who Palminfocenter editor allows to post "articles" here? Pathetic, but now the norm around here since Ed left.

You really are a moron, you know that? Mike Cane has been posting at Palm Infocenter for possibly longer than Ed was even around, and he sure as hell posted articles while Ed was still editor around here. Go back to Brighthand if you love him (and their generic reviews) so much.

>>Fourthly, if you keep bashing Palm for having horrible quality control, they might just remove your pride and joy from their site. Don't make me have to show this post to Palm's Michael "The Apologist" Mace.

As if showing me two reasons why you weren't such a bright bulb weren't enough, you had to show me a third. Michael Mace is CCO of PalmSource, not PalmOne, which I had directed my comments to. Are you still unaware of the split?

>>Try to do better, Baby Tabosco.

Heed your own advice. Age doesn't signify intelligence. Try to keep up, slick.

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616

RE: Sony: YICK!
;-) @ 1/25/2004 12:15:45 AM #
if you ever read anything beyond... penthouse forum letters...

If you talk to anyone that has met Mike Cane, you'd know he doesn't swing that way, if you know what I mean. Kinda surprising, but apparently all that agressive "manly" posturing is really just a front for what he really is. (Not that there's anything wrong with "alternative" lifestyles - as we say in San Francisco, it takes many types to make a rainbow.)


It's just too big.

RE: Sony: YICK!
mentalsrule @ 1/25/2004 12:41:23 AM #
San Francisco eh? I guess you living there ( i presume) really helps you be open with who you already are yourself. Accepting that rainbow sticker on your bumper is a lot easier there than say....texas. I always wondered if your kind had better gaydar than my kind...but my questions have now been answered....thanks almighty bright one! I guess you need some kind of light to see a rainbow anyway.

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www.HandHeldHQ.com

RE: Sony: YICK!
;-) @ 1/25/2004 1:25:59 AM #
San Francisco eh? I guess you living there ( i presume) really helps you be open with who you already are yourself. Accepting that rainbow sticker on your bumper is a lot easier there than say....texas. I always wondered if your kind had better gaydar than my kind...but my questions have now been answered....thanks almighty bright one! I guess you need some kind of light to see a rainbow anyway.

No I don't live there, sweetie. But why do you refer to Mike's type as "your kind" when you obviously swing the same way? I don't judge you. But I know you like to prance around in that Village People cowboy outfit that you keep in the closet at home in that big ole 'ole called Texas. And I hear there are more homersexuals in Dallas than San Francisco. Is that true? You sick freak.

;-)



It's just too big.

This is your brain OFF drugs (antipsychotics)
;-) @ 1/25/2004 3:21:10 PM #
That's my impression upon studying the screen shots.

First, what the hell happened to half-hour increments?

Easter Bunny took them. Bad bunny! Bad! Maybe you need to stop "studying the screen shots" and wait until you can actually spend a few hours in your local Best Buy "testing" it before you post more verbal diarrhea here.

Second, why the hell do I need to have the time stamped *in* the appointment listing?

Because that's how GOD made it. That's "why the hell".

Third, when something is starting on a ten (8:50, 9:10), why is there no TIME to the left?

Because Sony knew you would complain.

I WANT half-hour time increments!

We'll get right on it. But not until you see your doctor for that new medicine. And that special new fitted jacket with all the straps and buckles.

I DON'T want timestamps in the appointment listing.

Anything you say.

I WANT ten-minute times listed to the left.

And I want Elle McPherson. Like the Rolling Stones said: "You can't always get what you want". They wrote that song just for you. Because you're SO special.

Sony, what the hell have you DONE?! This looks like it came from MICROSOFT!!

SCREEEEEEEECH! Flashbacks to every other time Sony has inroduced a new model... No landscape! No Decuma! Horrible buttons! Dull screen! Small stylus! WHAT WAS SONY THINKING!!!!!!!
PRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK! Mikey wanna cracker!

I am hoping that all the things I've listed can be taken care of with Options/Preferences. But knowing Sony...

And what if they can? (They can.) Will you come back here complaining you don't like the case color? Or will the jogdial become your new obsession? The stylus again? Memory Stick? Screen? Price? Camera? We care.

...this abomination could easily KILL the TH55 for me.

That would be a real tragedy for Sony. I'm sure they really care if you buy another one of their products.

I like Classic Date Book, dammit. If I wanted something like this, I could get it -- with a Pocket PC!

If you promised to leave this site for good, I'll bet people here would quickly come up with the money to buy you a PPC handheld. But we know you'd be back two hours later, carping about more nonsense.

We're sick of your posts, Mike. Please leave and never come back here


It's just too big.

Last word to Mike Cane
;-) @ 1/25/2004 4:09:43 PM #
And feel free to take your little Boy Wonder sidekick, Tabasco with you when you leave. Maybe your "protege" can finally get some help for his age "issue". (I'm NOT a child! Waaa! Waaa! Waaa! Why does everyone treat me like a baby! Waaa! Waaa! Waaa!)

If you have any self-respect left, I'd suggest you publicly apologize here to Miss Clie for your little psychotic break. But I don't expect you have the cojones to admit you were wrong (yet again). In fact rumor has it you have no cojones at all...


It's just too big.

Palm = PalmSource = pa1mOne
;-) @ 1/25/2004 4:23:48 PM #
Michael Mace is CCO of PalmSource, not PalmOne, which I had directed my comments to. Are you still unaware of the split?

Only a child would be so nave as to believe that Palm is REALLY two different companies. The "split" is not real - it's a creative accounting business decision. No doubt Michael "Damage Control" Mace will soon pop up here in a puff of smoke like a genie from a bottle to deny this, but that's the truth. Honestly. The grown ups here know the difference between SEC + stock manipulation and Story According to Palm. By the way Baby Tabasco: Santa Claus isn't real. Sorry.

RE: Sony: YICK!
abosco @ 1/25/2004 5:17:05 PM #
I haven't got the time, nor the energy to hand your ass to you a third time, so I'll be blunt.

>>Only a child would be so nave as to believe that Palm is REALLY two different companies. The "split" is not real...

>>...The grown ups here know the difference between SEC + stock manipulation and Story According to Palm.

You might want to adjust the tin foil hat on your head - you can see the rear celebellum through it. Wouldn't want Microsoft or MLB reading your mind with their satellites, would you, Mr. Conspiracy Theorist? Are you going to tell me next that PalmOne didn't really aquire HandSpring and that it was also just a big scandal? Or that we really do have Osama and we're just using that as a reason to keep on with the war on terror in the Middle-East? Go away, sick fraud. Maybe when you quit acting like you're one up the better half of the population, we'll stop treating you like the inept, impotent, middle-aged virgin that you really are.

Hey, if you respond to true criticism of your idiotic ramblings with insults (worse than Mr. Cane), expect to get them right back with a dash of disrespect. I noticed you didn't touch anything about how mikecane posted things to PIC while Ed (your savior) was here, and that this never happened before he left, since I stuffed your mouth shut with crow. Or the fact that maybe I really have been here for two years. And I'm quite sure you once again mixed up PalmOne and PalmSource and tried to make up for your stupidity by saying they never really split. That was really clever - almost fooled me. Really.

Tell you what. Next time I go to a book store, instead of looking for "HTML for Dummies", I'll pickup a copy of "How-To-Think-Before-You-Speak for Dummies" and hand deliver it to you. I suggest you read it in its entirety. Now I once again implore you to stop talking before I have to nail you in the face with reality. Again.

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616

RE: Sony: YICK!
mikecane @ 1/26/2004 9:54:07 AM #
There is nothing quite as invigorating as being OFFLINE for *36 hours* and coming back to see people have been posting about me.

And people tell *me* to get a life?

And that John Milton comment is just toooo cute.

Sheesh!!
Wollombi @ 1/26/2004 9:14:59 PM #
Ok, everybody repeat after me: "Guzfrabaaa..."


>"We're sick of your posts, Mike. Please leave and never come back here"<

Truly, while I don't care much for Mike's posts, he was provoked in this case by none other than you. I'm sick of your posts, does that give me the right to demand that you leave a *public* forum which you don't even own and haven't contributed to in any fashion for longer than 4 months? If you really hate free speech so much, then why don't you leave and find a site that is much more agreeable to you?

As far as Mike attackin Ms. Clie et all, I think that was inappropriate as well. Mike, sometimes you should chill. I say this not as an attack, just as an observation, and I *have* defended you when you've been attacked unjustifiably.


>"Only a child would be so nave as to believe that Palm is REALLY two different companies. The "split" is not real - it's a creative accounting business decision. No doubt Michael "Damage Control" Mace will soon pop up here in a puff of smoke like a genie from a bottle to deny this, but that's the truth. Honestly. The grown ups here know the difference between SEC + stock manipulation and Story According to Palm. By the way Baby Tabasco: Santa Claus isn't real. Sorry."<

Hmm...Santa isn't real. Apparently neither is your adulthood. You sit there pontificating about being a "grown up" (childish term, BTW), yet the one you call "the kid" (Bosco) has generally been the most mature poster in this whole sordid thread. Yep, Bosco, I'm the one who keeps telling everyone to cut it out...LOL. Then you come out with this ridiculous conspiracy theory about there never really being a split. How manyt copies of "Catcher in the Rye" do you own? The whole point of the split was to allow PalmSource to obtain more licensees and get a better foothold in a variety of market segments. You can lecture us about the SEC and stock manipulation when you show us proof that you actually invested AND made any money.

So guys, please just cut it out already.

_________________
Sean

Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.

RE: Sony: YICK!
mikecane @ 1/27/2004 11:12:03 AM #
Hmmm... I just called you a moron and a troll in another post. Never mind. Ignore that post. Thought you were someone else using a new handle (suddenly there are all these posts from you... seemed suspicious).

RE: Sony: YICK!
;-) @ 1/27/2004 8:57:58 PM #
I haven't got the time, nor the energy to hand your ass to you a third time, so I'll be blunt.

>>Only a child would be so nave as to believe that Palm is REALLY two different companies. The "split" is not real...

>>...The grown ups here know the difference between SEC + stock manipulation and Story According to Palm.

You might want to adjust the tin foil hat on your head - you can see the rear celebellum through it. Wouldn't want Microsoft or MLB reading your mind with their satellites, would you, Mr. Conspiracy Theorist? Are you going to tell me next that PalmOne didn't really aquire HandSpring and that it was also just a big scandal? Or that we really do have Osama and we're just using that as a reason to keep on with the war on terror in the Middle-East? Go away, sick fraud. Maybe when you quit acting like you're one up the better half of the population, we'll stop treating you like the inept, impotent, middle-aged virgin that you really are.

Hey, if you respond to true criticism of your idiotic ramblings with insults (worse than Mr. Cane), expect to get them right back with a dash of disrespect. I noticed you didn't touch anything about how mikecane posted things to PIC while Ed (your savior) was here, and that this never happened before he left, since I stuffed your mouth shut with crow. Or the fact that maybe I really have been here for two years. And I'm quite sure you once again mixed up PalmOne and PalmSource and tried to make up for your stupidity by saying they never really split. That was really clever - almost fooled me. Really.

Tell you what. Next time I go to a book store, instead of looking for "HTML for Dummies", I'll pickup a copy of "How-To-Think-Before-You-Speak for Dummies" and hand deliver it to you. I suggest you read it in its entirety. Now I once again implore you to stop talking before I have to nail you in the face with reality. Again.

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616


Baby Tabasco... when will you ever learn?

1) The "split" is a smoke and mirrors trick. The fact that some naive people and children believe it is real doesn't change that fact. Ask some grown ups to explain this to you at recess tomorrow.

2) The only ass being handed is yours to Mike Cane for his bedtime pleasure.

3) Look up the spelling of brain anatomical structures BEFORE you drop them in your posts.

4) I had posted

"- Thirdly, your defense of the cretin, Mr. Cane is touching, but as any psychologist knows, children often try to defend an abusive parent. Miss Clie politely made a valid post and this nutcase flipped out on her for no reason. And this is who Palminfocenter editor allows to post "articles" here? Pathetic, but now the norm around here since Ed left."

I did not say Mike Cretin never posted here when Ed was around. Apparently reading is not one of your fortes. You might want to keep that copy of "How-To-Think-Before-You-Speak for Dummies" for yourself. I suggest you read it in its entirety.

Do you ever tire of making yourself look like a fool?


It's just too big.

RE: Sony: YICK!
abosco @ 1/27/2004 9:25:14 PM #
>>1) The "split" is a smoke and mirrors trick. The fact that some naive people and children believe it is real doesn't change that fact. Ask some grown ups to explain this to you at recess tomorrow.

If this indeed were true, why would my article, officially for PalmSource, be in danger from criticism aimed at PalmOne? If they were really trying to keep this whole thing covert, they wouldn't blow it by doing that, now would they, *******?

Admit it - you, for the second time, confused PalmOne with PalmSource (the first being the time you went on a report-sized rant to Michael Mace on how PalmOne could improve their products; yes, you looked very intelligent).

>>2) The only ass being handed is yours to Mike Cane for his bedtime pleasure.

Yes, that's clever. Did your house call male stripper help you think that one up?

>>3) Look up the spelling of brain anatomical structures BEFORE you drop them in your posts.

Oh wow, you caught me with a typo in which I put an 'l' instead of an 'r'. Yes, that most certainly means I'm indolent, unlike you. :rolleyes: Moron.

All hail this random idiot! He pointed out a typo! Lah-dee-freakin-dah!

>>And this is who Palminfocenter editor allows to post "articles" here? Pathetic, but now the norm around here since Ed left.
>>I did not say Mike Cretin never posted here when Ed was around.

If what you were saying were true, that what I pointed to wasn't what you were implying, then what did you mean was the 'norm'? From the sentence, it most certainly looks like you were talking about mikecane posting articles here since Ed left. If I am mistaken, it is because of your poor sentence and paragraph structure. Once again, good job.

>>Do you ever tire of making yourself look like a fool?

Do you ever tire of trying to prove you're not a complete vegetable? Have you ever just accepted the fact that your sly comments and smartass play on words aren't welcome by very many users? I don't think mikecane is the one who needs to leave, it's you. (Oh dammit, I used HTML again!)

Your clever comments are about as exciting as a bag of smashed *******s. Why do you continue to post after being so blatantly understood to be unwanted?

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616

RE: Sony: YICK!
abosco @ 1/27/2004 9:47:56 PM #
Whoops, missed Wollombi's post:

>>Yep, Bosco, I'm the one who keeps telling everyone to cut it out...LOL.

Hey, we all got to act a little older sometimes. ;)

>>Then you come out with this ridiculous conspiracy theory about there never really being a split. How manyt copies of "Catcher in the Rye" do you own?

Hahahaha!!! Next thing you know he's going to tell us he's deaf!!

>>So guys, please just cut it out already.

Probably the best idea I've heard in the whole damned thread. You've been on a roll when it comes to calming down threads, Wollombi. First you defend ska, now this!

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616

Palm = palmOne = PalmSource
;-) @ 1/27/2004 10:56:40 PM #
The split is a charade. Accept it or admit you're a sucker.


It's just too big.

RE: Sony: YICK!
mentalsrule @ 1/28/2004 3:46:38 AM #
Wow guys...I now know why ;-) is upset and taking it out on the poor folks here at PIC.

His last few words..."its just too big" is what he told his house call male stripper who helped him come up with that dumb-a$$ catch phrase, which in turn means he wasted a few hundred bucks which he could have just bought gay porn with, and figured out that his well oiled ass isnt what it used to be in its virgin days. Which means he found out that the male strippers "fun friend" wasnt in fact too big after ;-) pulled out the wine bottle.

I guess you should try before you deny.

____________________
"Your HandHeld HeadQuarters"

www.HandHeldHQ.com

RE: Sony: YICK!
;-) @ 1/29/2004 11:37:30 PM #
Wow guys...I now know why ;-) is upset and taking it out on the poor folks here at PIC.

His last few words..."its just too big" is what he told his house call male stripper who helped him come up with that dumb-a$$ catch phrase, which in turn means he wasted a few hundred bucks which he could have just bought gay porn with, and figured out that his well oiled ass isnt what it used to be in its virgin days. Which means he found out that the male strippers "fun friend" wasnt in fact too big after ;-) pulled out the wine bottle.

I guess you should try before you deny.


New user name, Baby Tabasco? Grow up.




It's just too big.

RE: Sony: YICK!
mikecane @ 1/30/2004 12:07:53 AM #
Man, you are really one sick jar of jelly.

Spread yourself elsewhere, will you?

RE: Sony: YICK!
mentalsrule @ 1/30/2004 2:02:17 AM #
lol no im not Bosco, but thanks anyway. Im actually another long time member here at PIC...one of which wouldnt mind you disappearing.

____________________
"Your HandHeld HeadQuarters"

www.HandHeldHQ.com

RE: Sony: YICK!
mikecane @ 1/30/2004 9:26:30 AM #
My comment was directed at the face icon.

You're a real brain too, I see. Your URL doesn't come up. An HQ that doesn't exist. Figures.

Now why don't *you* disappear? Into your invisible HQ!

RE: Sony: YICK!
abosco @ 1/30/2004 12:07:27 PM #
My only other username here is "Bosco", and that's because I had some login problems a few years ago and registered a new nick instead of clearing out my cookies.

Next time, look at the profile before you post.

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616

RE: Sony: YICK!
mentalsrule @ 1/30/2004 3:45:16 PM #
I have never cleared out my signature, and i dont plan on it really. TO lazy. But HQ will be up again soon, i am just having to deal with this new "redemption Hold" crap with central registry.

Anyway that was fun.

____________________
"Your HandHeld HeadQuarters"

www.HandHeldHQ.com

Mike Cretin - learn how to READ before you post more crap
;-) @ 1/30/2004 11:16:45 PM #
My comment was directed at the face icon.

You're a real brain too, I see. Your URL doesn't come up. An HQ that doesn't exist. Figures.

Now why don't *you* disappear? Into your invisible HQ!


Do you think everyone is talking to you? What are those voices in your head saying, Cretin? If they say "****, Mike", you should listen to them. You're really a tedious piece of shi t.




It's just too big.

RE: Sony: YICK!
abosco @ 1/31/2004 7:47:59 PM #
I've got to give a big round of applause to all involved in this thread. It easily made my week, even when suicide looked like a viable option to get out of mid-terms and work. ;)

When the smoke cleared and I re-read the thread, I saw a crazed lunatic ranting on a new product, a second crazed lunatic ranting on the previous ranter, a kid who's been laughing for over a week at this thread, and another kid whose sexual comments have been a little more than a few steps across the line of disgusting. Maybe you guys should all take a deep breath and do the same thing I did and laugh at all of our rash words in a time of haste. It'll do some good. Give it a shot.

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616

RE: Sony: YICK!
mikecane @ 1/31/2004 8:27:55 PM #
>>Give it a shot.

Don't mention shots. It reminds him he's overdue for his medicinal injection...

RE: Sony: YICK!
Hal2000 @ 2/1/2004 1:42:24 AM #
Still laughing here, great entertaiment, but also a waste of keytrokes for all. As a longtime reader of this site, it is time that the face icon should leave (sorry face icon, but you are just not funny enough.) You're just too big..........an a-hole.

Zodiac2/T616
RE: Sony: YICK!
;-) @ 2/12/2004 4:11:20 AM #
Oh my. What a big scary boy you are.


It's just too big.

RE: Sony: YICK!
mikecane @ 2/12/2004 8:22:16 AM #
You're really pathetic, Rodney.

Big whoop!

Scott R @ 1/23/2004 11:01:02 AM #
I don't get it. I see a lot of fancy eye-candy but I don't see any huge productivity gains. Sure, the side task launcher is nice, but nothing that couldn't already be easily accomplished via add-ons.

The other nonsense reads like an old Microsoft marketing document...

"For instance, if you have an appointment setup with Bob at 2pm, you could attach a photo of Bob and voice memo about the appointment, so you remember what Bob looks like and have an audio reminder of what you wanted to discuss during the meeting."

Is anybody really going to do this? How often are you meeting with someone who you don't even know what they look like? This functionality sounds like it was designed for contract killers.

Scott

http://Tapland.com
- Tapwave Zodiac News, Reviews, & Discussion -

RE: Big whoop!
sgingras @ 1/23/2004 1:25:04 PM #
> This functionality sounds like it was designed for contract killers.

:-)

Well, actually, we prefer to be called "cleaners".

cheers,
Steve

"Beam me that contact, and I'll clean them up for you."

RE: Big whoop!
a3 @ 1/23/2004 1:42:32 PM #
Not to mention that it is very odd to have a picture of your clients/contacts...

____________________________________________
Former Tapwave's Helix fan, now a T|T3 fan.
RE: Big whoop!
Timothy Rapson @ 1/23/2004 5:50:39 PM #
I'd love to be able to attach hand scrawled notes without going to DiddleBug. I am not a big PIM user, but one of the reasons is that I have to juggle programs. Slap might fix this, but this new Sony Omni Utility looks like it might be handy enough to get me to start. I don't like the built-in PIMS. In fact, I have practically no alarms set with them. I just pop up BugMe or DiddleBuG and scrawl the reminder.

File name: Scott R
;-) @ 1/23/2004 8:52:59 PM #
sgingras: I received your photo of Scott R.

The stain will be cleaned tomorrow.


- Juan "The Jackal" V.




It's just too big.

RE: Big whoop!
rcartwright @ 1/23/2004 11:10:16 PM #
Scott,

If you are in a profesion that has you meeting lots of people infrequently (weeks or even months at a time) this would not be a bad thing. Lawyers, doctors, salespeope and even teachers in big institutions come to mind. I am a lawyer and while I talk on th phone and corrospond with clients over the course of representation, I might actually meet that person only two or three times over six months or more. I have often thought about taking photos of clients when they hired me, but never have figured out a diplomatic way to ask.

Life is a great adventure or nothing.

RE: Big whoop!
Timothy Rapson @ 1/24/2004 8:01:20 AM #
You wouldn't wonder how to ask if you had a camera Clie. All I have to do is pull mine out and start writing down and address and when I swivel out the camera people are so awed you could get them to give you any personal info or compromising photo pose you can imagine.

RE: Big whoop!
Scott R @ 1/24/2004 11:52:10 AM #
rcartwright, you're examples are good, but as you indicated there's at least one issue, and I'd a second:
1) Are people going to really ask all their clients, etc. to either supply them with a photo or let them take one themselves? How would people react to this?
2) The examples you provided are niche markets. Sony isn't marketing this to niche markets but to average consumers. Average consumers will find this idea "neat" but I predict would rarely make use of it except for people whom they already know well (friends, family).

Scott

http://Tapland.com
- Tapwave Zodiac News, Reviews, & Discussion -

Too much memory
Miss Clie @ 1/24/2004 1:53:19 PM #
Sony has provided the ability to put a photo in the address book of Clies for a while, and while it's a cute fuzzy idea, let's face it - who has the memory to support picture files stored locally in the address database, or the calendar database, either?

Unless the new Clie organizer removes the photo when the meeting has passed, there will be a whole lot of wasted storage eaten up on this cutesy feature, even with the provided 32mb (alleged at this time).

RE: Big whoop!
Wollombi @ 1/26/2004 9:29:03 PM #
>"Beam me that contact, and I'll clean them up for you."<

Hmm.. can I send you the contacts for Mike Cane and ";-)"?

_________________
Sean

Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.

Hmmm . . . looks way to busy and . . .

craigdts @ 1/24/2004 3:58:10 PM #
Since I've started using the Treo 600 I've forgotten how to use a stylus. From the looks of Sony's launcher your going to need three hands and more than one stylus to get anywhere.

Responding to an earlier comment, I think that any changes or additions to the Palm os (whether by PalmOne or Sony) are owned by Palmsource, so if palmsource wants to include this launcher in future versions of OS 5, I guess they can integrate them. But I seriously doubt they will. It's just too cluttered, but then again I refuse to use a stylus now anyways.

PalmOS/databases not up to it

jss1432 @ 1/25/2004 2:06:45 AM #
Sony already has non-standard features in their databases, as do Palm add-ons. Having migrated between Sony and Palm, I have to say: it's hopeless. Every time anybody improves anything significant about the built-in applications, you end up with data in incompatible formats that doesn't get carried along properly between handhelds and that desktop apps don't know what to do with.

The entire Palm database system is just not up to these demands. How to do it is no great mystery: people have known how to build these kinds of databases since the 1970's. It's just that the creators of the Palm platform didn't understand. They knew how to do the software engineering to get a cheap, usable device to market quickly and at cost--an admirable achievement--but as a platform, the thing is technically rotten to the core, with no solution in sight.

Things wouldn't be quite as bad if Sony shipped their extended software as add-on software. Then, at least, you could use the same software on all the handhelds (desktop software would still get confused, of course). But Sony makes matters worse by tying their extended software versions to their hardware.

Basically, you should consider the Clies and the Palms separate, incompatible handheld platforms, which coincidentally happen to run some common apps.

This is your brain OFF drugs (antipsychotics)
;-) @ 1/25/2004 2:48:52 PM #
That's my impression upon studying the screen shots.

First, what the hell happened to half-hour increments?

Easter Bunny took them. Bad bunny! Bad! Maybe you need to stop "studying the screen shots" and wait until you can actually spend a few hours in your local Best Buy "testing" it before you post more verbal diarrhea here.

Second, why the hell do I need to have the time stamped *in* the appointment listing?

Because that's how GOD made it. That's "why the hell".

Third, when something is starting on a ten (8:50, 9:10), why is there no TIME to the left?

Because Sony knew you would complain.

I WANT half-hour time increments!

We'll get right on it. But not until you see your doctor for that new medicine. And that special new fitted jacket with all the straps and buckles.

I DON'T want timestamps in the appointment listing.

Anything you say.

I WANT ten-minute times listed to the left.

And I want Elle McPherson. Like the Rolling Stones said: "You can't always get what you want". They wrote that song just for you. Because you're SO special.

Sony, what the hell have you DONE?! This looks like it came from MICROSOFT!!

SCREEEEEEEECH! Flashbacks to every other time Sony has inroduced a new model... No landscape! No Decuma! Horrible buttons! Dull screen! Small stylus! WHAT WAS SONY THINKING!!!!!!!
PRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK! Mikey wanna cracker!

I am hoping that all the things I've listed can be taken care of with Options/Preferences. But knowing Sony...

And what if they can? (They can.) Will you come back here complaining you don't like the case color? Or will the jogdial become your new obsession? The stylus again? Memory Stick? Screen? Price? Camera? We care.

...this abomination could easily KILL the TH55 for me.

That would be a real tragedy for Sony. I'm sure they really care if you buy another one of their products.

I like Classic Date Book, dammit. If I wanted something like this, I could get it -- with a Pocket PC!

If you promised to leave this site for good, I'll bet people here would quickly come up with the money to buy you a PPC handheld. But we know you'd be back two hours later, carping about more nonsense.

We're sick of your posts, Mike. Please leave and never come back here.



It's just too big.

RE: PalmOS/databases not up to it
mikecane @ 1/26/2004 9:56:00 AM #
Look at the stalker post twice.

Therapy is failing him.

Shall we take up a collection for something else?

An organizer to be disorganized?

alexito @ 1/25/2004 2:22:09 AM #
Nice contradiction in terms. It's nice to see what Sony is trying to push into us. Anyway I'm still waiting for that un-looked Treo 600. Or even bettter that rumored Treo 610, by the way is it real??

Also it was very funny to see that heated post fight.

Greeting to everybody.

Technology moves faster than you can afford... at least for me.

RE:Heated Post Fight
Hal2000 @ 1/25/2004 3:16:28 PM #
I also live/work in NYC and understand Mike Cane's tensions.(a long time ago he made me aware of free wifi in Bryant park). Also kudos to abosco for the calming influence. I don't think Miss Clie deserved it, though.
Strangly, PIC was more fun in the days of ED,fights and all, when even a lowly cradle review rec'd 100+ comments.

Zodiac2/T616
RE: An organizer to be disorganized?
mikecane @ 1/26/2004 9:57:08 AM #
>>>I don't think Miss Clie deserved it, though.

Anyone dumb enough to use a BRAND NAME as a handle deserves it. Trust me on this one.

I like the new concept

chrispinyang @ 1/30/2004 9:59:19 PM #
I hope I can use it in my T3 :)

RE: I like the new concept
UZI4U182 @ 1/30/2004 10:48:00 PM #
Don't count on it, legally anyway.

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