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DataViz has announced that Documents To Go Premium Edition Version 7 is now available. With the addition of native Microsoft PowerPoint support, Documents To Go Premium Edition now offers native file support for all the core Microsoft Office document file types - Word, Excel and PowerPoint - as well as JPEG and BMP picture files.
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$how me the Munny

LiveFaith @ 8/16/2004 5:59:32 PM #
Version 8.0 will be out by this weekend. It will have a new splash screen and read .BMPs. Major upgrades!

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: $how me the Munny
dweeb @ 8/16/2004 6:22:05 PM #
Yes, there doesn't seem much to warrant a complete new version number. I'll wait until tomorrow to click "upgrade" and see if there's a fee. Like all good apps of this ilk, they've got to a point where it's really good and the upgrades are now things people don't really need.
RE: $how me the Munny
G M Fude @ 8/16/2004 7:37:04 PM #
A new user interface and new character sets along with native PowerPoint support would seem to be a sufficient reason for a new version. But of course if you don't need these features, don't feel compelled to spend your money on an upgrade. It isn't compulsory.

V7 sounds good to me; I find I'm using PowerPoint more and more with Docs to Go 5 -- almost as much as I use Word to Go -- so native support maybe make life much easier. Version 6 didn't excite me so I didn't cough up the cash, but version 7 is mighty tempting.

RE: $how me the Munny
Zippy @ 8/16/2004 10:23:06 PM #
Duh, I just got sucked in: I thought it said that it supports PDF files, it does, but not native. That will teach me to not read the description like the most cynical lawer. Software makers deliberately write descriptions that can deceive the inattentive. Although what they are saying is true, the manner in which it is said can often be misinterpreted. Kudos to the Dataviz description writer, very clever: you got me.
Very nice user interface change, but not worth the $29.00 upgrade unless you use powerpoint. which I don't. Oh, well, it's good for the industry.

RE: $how me the Munny
hkklife @ 8/16/2004 10:40:13 PM #
I'm definitely anticipating on seeing this bundled with the T4 this fall. Maybe even the Premium version!
By all counts, based on my personal speculation, the scuttlebut on the 'net and a source that I talked to a while back, the T4's going to ship with a very strong software bundle--building on what the T3 did last year. PalmOne's learned the lesson when the T|T shipped and hardly any mjaor apps were OS5 compliant and then again when the T3 shipped and little other than the bundled software could take advantage of the screen. I'll guess that we'll be pretty happy right out of the box starting in October (at least as far as the bundle's concerned).

I'll personally stick with DtG 6 until I see what the finalized T4 bundle is going to be.

RE: $how me the Munny
LiveFaith @ 8/16/2004 11:33:58 PM #
On v6, the jump to 6.008 was the best thing since sliced bread. Listening to the customer and getting rid of that terroristic splash screen (pop-up banner ad) along with the user-option to "search" RAM & SD for documents, made for dramatic improvements in efficiency. If you have v6 below .008, then definitely get the free upgrade to v.008 and you'll feel like you spent $30 for a new version.

D2G is a great useful app, but as someone posted earlier, software vendors get a "success tax" when their product get's well refined, and they have to resort to making ".x" upgrades look like "x." upgrades to keep from laying off the staff etc.

I have a PC Bible program that is in it's 3rd Windows iteration now. The 2nd "upgrade" was absolutely horribly non-intuitive & massively bloated, so I resorted back to my previous, more-efficient version. Now they have another "all-new" release. I'm not about to throw "good $ after bad". Although new "products/references" are of course non-compatible with previous versions. Seriously, how many different ways can their possibly be to reference static information? Not many, but if "x." changes are not made then the corporate party is over. So I look for another all-new upgrade soon. I just hope Windows "Longhorn", "Foghorn", "Leghorn", or whatever they call it is backward compatible with my oldie version when I have to ante' up for it. :-)

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com

Not for OS4
Marc Mac @ 8/17/2004 4:39:20 AM #
Lucky I downloaded the demo first, as it does not work with OS4, unlike version 6. I read the sysreq too quickly and read Palm Desktop 4.0 as PalmOS 4.0.

Guess I'll just wait to get it free once I buy a wifi palm.


Marc Mac

Palm 100>Palm 105>Sony SJ33

RE: $how me the Munny
ackmondual @ 8/18/2004 12:11:40 AM #
it's much more of an upgrade for mac users. Not only do they get native PP support, but they just plain get it. Quite a few ppl were bummed that DTG prev versions omitted Mac support for powerpoint

[signature0]the secret to enjoying your job is to have a hobby that's even worse[/signature0]
[signature1]My PDAs: Visor --> Visor Neo (blue) --> Zire 71.... so ends the "marathon", for now[/signature1]

And OpenOffice support?

Fuzzillogic @ 8/17/2004 12:36:40 PM #
No, not the native OpenOffice formats, but the MSOffice-exported ones. v5 could read exported Writer-files, but it choked on exported Spreadsheet-files. Is there some improvement in that area?

And what about something simpler: RTF?

Winter_ @ 8/17/2004 7:40:04 PM #
I've been trying to find some reasonable way to put in the T3 some relatively simple documents: syntax-colored source code. It should be simple: single monospaced font, 5 or 6 different colours, optionally some bold and italics, and reasonable respect for white space. And it should be editable!

I thought that D2G would allow me to use the simple RTF docs that virtually all source prettyprinting programs generate, being RTF a known standard. But no luck; I must convert all of them to full Word documents. Then, D2G opens them slowly and darkens colors until they are almost undistinguishable from black. And Word documents have margins, so long lines get wrapped.

But that's the only option available for the Palm OS...


RE: And what about something simpler: RTF?
LiveFaith @ 8/18/2004 10:18:17 AM #
Winter,
Looks like a moonlighting opportunity for you. Then again that other headline says PalmGear will get all your profits anyway. Sorry.
That is strange how d2g does not support that. Common most everywhere, tho I must admit I have no use for it.

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: And what about something simpler: RTF?
Altema @ 8/18/2004 2:56:25 PM #
Yeah, my wife has not used a desktop or laptop for over half a year for email, but got an RTF attachment last night. She looked at me, I smiled back and said "you have to use the desktop downstairs to read that".

Fixed my pet peeve with V6

Nechasin @ 8/18/2004 9:40:36 AM #
Version 7 fixed one annoyance that I found in Version 6. You had to wait for it to finish searching for documents before it would show you a list and let you select a document. This would increase the time it took to open a file up. Now, it almost immediately shows previous documents, and you can select a document as soon as it is shown. The searching is done in the background.
RE: Fixed my pet peeve with V6
LiveFaith @ 8/18/2004 10:20:44 AM #
Are you sure searching is done in background? That would be nice, but v6.008 upgraded from previous v6 versions to allow manual searching and ability to turn searching on/off. This was a huge improvement on v6.008.

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: Fixed my pet peeve with V6
Nechasin @ 8/18/2004 11:28:18 AM #
I never got the upgrade, just used the version that was installed on the t3 rom.

Your mind resembles the wings of an Ostrich, It enables you to Run, though NOT to Soar! -- Thomas Babington, Lord Macaulay
RE: Fixed my pet peeve with V6
LiveFaith @ 8/18/2004 2:11:07 PM #
Probably v6.002

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com

Actually pretty good

jbarr @ 8/19/2004 11:41:44 AM #
Well, I decided to pay the $30.00 for the upgrade. Overall, it's not a hugely significant upgrade, but it does have some nice features (some of which, v6 may have had, but I just never knew about them.)

For example,
-The toolbar is completely customizable.
-The interface is consistent across all applications. It just seems "tighter" and "cleaner".
-It has a funky "circle wipe" animation when transitioning from the main screen to each app. It's novel.
-Native handling of Word, Excel, and PowerPoint docs is stellar. I typically use Repligo to view PowerPoint documents, but Slideshow To Go may prove a worthy competitor.
-Plus a few other niceties.

As always, I am frustrated by the upgrade cost, but it certainly is more palatable than the my infuriating experiences with the constant upgrade costs of Quick Office.

Is the upgrade worth the cost? I don't know yet, but it certainly leaves me with a good feeling after using it for a couple hours...

"Chinese support" and other disappointments

twrock @ 8/20/2004 3:46:32 AM #
Dataviz had me all excited with the promise of traditional Chinese support. Alas, that is only via the CJKOS add-in program, and they didn't choose to support the much superior Hand Dragon Chinese OS (aka Palm Dragon).

But, what I find EXCEEDINGLY IRRITATING is that there is no easy way to uninstall this demo version so I can revert to my bundled version 5. Oh, yes, their documentation says that I can uninstall it through the "add-remove" menu in Windows control panel, but Docs To Go simply isn't there in the list of programs. A trip to the website to get a little help has me jumping through hoops like having to find my registration number in the desktop program that no longer has a registration number because I have installed the demo of version 7. C'mon guys, just write an "uninstall.exe" so that when your installation system fails to work properly with Windows we can still get rid of your program.

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