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RE: Four unlucky number
F 'Em.
RE: Four unlucky number
Please don't wake me - allow me to dream on.
RE: Four unlucky number
Let's keep it professional...
RE: Four unlucky number
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Generic PDA > 5mx > Vx > m505 > N770C > T625C > NR70V > e310 > m550 > h2210 > T/T3 & h4150
StarTac > T28m > T39m > T68m > T610 > T630 > K700i (nxt week)
RE: Four unlucky number
I, for one, will not bow to some Godless-culture's susperstitions!
F 'Em!!!!!!
RE: Four unlucky number
About PalmOne doing their best to not 'jinx' their product, I don't see any reason why they can't skip number 4 (it's only a number, people). I for one don't care much about that, but it's their product and they can do whatever they like. Just bring us a Tungsten with WiFi please!
RE: Four unlucky number
Not only is 4 considered bad luck in Japan, so is 9.
RE: Four unlucky number
This speaks volume about their products...
RE: Four unlucky number
MikeCon - Are you planning on protesting the RNC Convention in NYC this week? I sure hope so - I really look forward to seeing footage of you and the rest of your socialist trash on the news being maced, beaten, and cuffed by New York's finest.
Grow up you nerds
Where it's the best of mudslinging nerd-on-nerd action!
RE: Four unlucky number
Zodiac2/T616
1.128 gigs under the hood.
RE: Four unlucky number
Since you are a "Gekko," you are a cold-blooded lizard? appears so...
How many office buildings skip the 13th floor in the US? Should we F' us too? Damn, admit you might have overstepped your boundaries here and give up the ghost. That's bad...
Bad news for Stan Lee
Marvel Comics for years tried to market a "Fantastic Five" comic book to asia, but never quite worked in the additional character of "Glinky the Space Thing" to the satisfaction of Stan Lee.
RE: Four unlucky number
Once again PalmOne is behind on the tech curve ... they should have loaded it up with XM Satellite.
Gekko - crawl back under your rock. Politics and religion have no place in these forums.
~ "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed." - DV ~
RE: Four unlucky number
For the record, I'd rather PalmOne concentrate on squashing bugs, improving build quality/screen quality, OS 6 early adopter woes, battery life etc instead of just piling on the features to gobble more battery life.
In all honesty, I'd rather see a faster SD bus access & Speedstep-style intelligent power management than a higher-clocked CPU.
RE: Four unlucky number
Go Nader!
RE: Four unlucky number
A bunch of socialists with noting but trouble on their minds! Lock 'em up and throw away the key!
RE: Four unlucky number
To go out of your way to rename your products so you don't use an "unlucky" number just seems.. well.. dumb. Is that so ignorant?
-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616 (now resting at the bottom of a waterfall)
RE: Four unlucky number
When you have your freedoms taken away, told how to think and are powerless to fight, you are at peace.
RE: Four unlucky number
RE: Four unlucky number
This is the problem with some people, they sit in their house worshipping whatever they usually worship (in this case an Axim) while not going out to experience the World and living the life. Gekko, do you even have a passport? Or a girl friend?
Rome: Not all PPC people are like Gekko. I am also a PPC user but I don't worship PDAs. Or my prime minister.
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Generic PDA > 5mx > Vx > m505 > N770C > T625C > NR70V > e310 > m550 > h2210 > T/T3 & h4150
StarTac > T28m > T39m > T68m > T610 > T630 > K700i (nxt week)
RE: Four unlucky number
Back to the topic of Tungsten - latest rumour has it that the T3 would get an OS6 upgrade. Oh and a 1src.com and BargainPDA has a pix of the alleged T5.
http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?s=230dd466e45fee8a1c8133c7e29e081e&t=65932&page=2&pp=15
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Generic PDA > 5mx > Vx > m505 > N770C > T625C > NR70V > e310 > m550 > h2210 > T/T3 & h4150
StarTac > T28m > T39m > T68m > T610 > T630 > K700i (nxt week)
More info on T3 and T5
According to this German site, the T3 would receive an OS6 update a month after the release of the T5.
And more juicy specs: 520Mhz PXA270 processor, 128Mb RAM, OS6, 320x480 res, Bluetooth, WiFi, UC, SD slot. Dimensions is 11.94cm x 7.62cm x 1.68cm. Priced would be similar to T3 when first released. If the specs are correct, the T5 would be slightly thicker than the T3 (bigger battery?).
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Generic PDA > 5mx > Vx > m505 > N770C > T625C > NR70V > e310 > m550 > h2210 > T/T3 & h4150
StarTac > T28m > T39m > T68m > T610 > T630 > K700i (nxt week)
MikeCon
Con - are you somewhere in the middle of this endless parade of human debris?
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040829/capt.tjs10808291639.cvn_protests_tjs108.jpg
RE: Four unlucky number
HOWEVER, there is, as mentioned, the concept and power of marketing, which is what allows one brand of cereal to outsell another brand of the SAME contents simply b/c it has a monkey instead of a goat or product lines to sell b/c of excessive uses of buzz words. P1 needs to make as many sales as it can, and if it means changing one # just to rack in more sales, I'd say, go for it.
[signature0]the secret to enjoying your job is to have a hobby that's even worse[/signature0]
[signature1]My PDAs: Visor --> Visor Neo (blue) --> Zire 71.... so ends the "marathon", for now[/signature1]
RE: Four unlucky number
I was there.
I think it's time for Gekko to be aborted from this site.
RE: Four unlucky number
RE: Four unlucky number
RE: Four unlucky number
Go Nader!"
YEAH! I knew there was something I liked about mikecane.
WHAT ABOUT THE PENTIUM!?!
[signature0]the secret to enjoying your job is to have a hobby that's even worse[/signature0]
[signature1]My PDAs: Visor --> Visor Neo (blue) --> Zire 71.... so ends the "marathon", for now[/signature1]
This makes sense! I am game for WiFi+Bluetooth!
As far as processor goes, we definetely want the new Intels under the hood, nothing less than 312MHz, with all the power goodies.
Let's hope Santa hears all these wishes...
Free 802.11 No More Wires!!!
Support your local WAN!
RE: This makes sense! I am game for WiFi+Bluetooth!
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My wife has to sell a lot of candles (www.ccandles.com) to buy her new Palm.
RE: This makes sense! I am game for WiFi+Bluetooth!
RE: This makes sense! I am game for WiFi+Bluetooth!
T5 has no built in WiFi but can make use of the WiFi SD card. Its sliderless design allows P1 to (finally) give it a replaceable battery.
Watch for the T5/WiFi card bundle that gets priced about the same as the iPAQ 4155 allowing the T5 sans WiFi to get priced much more agressively. P1 won't have the margin overhead on circuitry/licensing fees (from Sychip who makes all the WiFi chips installed in PDAs) built into every T5 it makes just to support the users who can't live without WiFi.
In fact, what if the T5 instead sported a "long" SD slot designed specifically for the WiFi card that lets it get inserted flush with the case. All this in addition to the standard SD slot. Maybe this is the actual truth behind the "dual SD" rumor.
T3 users purchasing the WiFi card in September can use it in their new T5 whenever they decide to upgrade too.
how about this for some crazy sh!t!
RE: This makes sense! I am game for WiFi+Bluetooth!
At the time I was expecting just a refresh of the T3 but now with the leaked pics of the new Treo, a non-slider T5 with dual SDIO (one of the slots being "long" as you state) and a replacable battery makes mega-sense. Now just keep the power consumption reasonably low, keep the bugs & build quality hiccups out and give me a UC--I'm all over it!
Personally, I'll be glad to see the slider go as long as the screen doesn't descrease any in physical viewable size.
RE: This makes sense! I am game for WiFi+Bluetooth!
Right now, I'm wondering if when the SD card itself debuts, if p1 won't drop the price of the T3 -- or bundle the card with it at the current price (ie, $399 for the set).
RE: This makes sense! I am game for WiFi+Bluetooth!
RE: This makes sense! I am game for WiFi+Bluetooth!
tthiel,
At the risk of being roundly flamed, Wi-Fi is not as critical as battery life and price. However, that said, they have got to have a dual slot if the Wi-Fi is not onboard. If you want or need Wi-Fi, you can get it without taking a hit on the slot or appearence. The mobile suit is looking for Bluetooth so they can use the addressbook for their phone and with a lot of the EDGE phones and unlimited data plans, who needs Wi-Fi in a PDA? This is especally true if you live somewhere other than NYC or the Bay Area where your phone coverage is a lot better than free Wi-Fi hotspots.
Rick C
RE: This makes sense! I am game for WiFi+Bluetooth!
RE: This makes sense! I am game for WiFi+Bluetooth!
on 8/30/2004 mikecane ranted
>Gee, just imagine the huge mistake hp has been making, including WiFi in THEIR devices...<
Mike,
Two big advantages that Palm has over PPC is price and battery life. Note that I said that it was critical that Palm have the Wi-Fi option there via a SD slot. That way those that want wi-fi can get it, accepting any price and batttery life compromises and thise that don't want or need wi-fi do not have to.
The more that I have thought about it, the more that I have to question the need for wi-fi in PDAs that have Bluetooth. As I posted before, access to a lot of Wi-Fi hot spots cost you. (Starbucks, Kinkos to name two) I submit that in light of the all you can eat data plans that we are starting to see and real high speed access, why be nibbled to death by ducks and mermaids throug paying for wi-fi acess fees?
Rick C
Rick C
RE: This makes sense! I am game for WiFi+Bluetooth!
RE: This makes sense! I am game for WiFi+Bluetooth!
RE: This makes sense! I am game for WiFi+Bluetooth!
E-T
e-tellurian
completing the e-com circle with a people driven we-com solution
So What's the T?
T - Transformational
C - Communicative
W - Wireless
E - Economical
If the T5 has no slider, Shouldn't it be have another letter? Maybe it will just be the Tungsten5.
RE: So What's the T?
Erp, what am I asking? I still can't remember what "clie" stands for.
I know the e was changed to "exiting". ;)
RE: So What's the T?
Personally, I'm still confused about the Zire72. I think they should've called it Zire81, as it's not just a better still digicam from the Z71, but also with: BT, vid cam, VR, more mem.
[signature0]the secret to enjoying your job is to have a hobby that's even worse[/signature0]
[signature1]My PDAs: Visor --> Visor Neo (blue) --> Zire 71.... so ends the "marathon", for now[/signature1]
Make The Leap
I can't help that PalmOne always seems to play catch-up. Don't get me wrong - I am not bashing them. Just that if this was the original Treo 600, it would have been the "wow" device for the year (it still is to some).
WiFi is here to stay and just including Bluetooth which was so last year for this year's model is... voila, playing catch up.
So, PalmOne - I hope you can make that leap soon and be in that leadership position again.
RE: Make The Leap
http://www.pdamexico.net/content/view/630
cheers
"Life is Too Short"
Clie UX50-Sony ericsson T610,HBH-60,SanDisk 256Mb Sd Card
RE: Make The Leap
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Lord, help me become the person my dog thinks I am!
RE: Make The Leap
I will add my pitch for blending graffitti 1 with g2. There was hope on the Zire 72 and with Palm winning the lawsuit. On the Zire 72 there was once a note implying both graffiti 1 and 2 were available. Double stroke characters slow down data entry due to having to wait for the PDA to detect which character to use. Some g2 is nice, and I see no mutual exclusivity between g2 and g1, so, Palm - blend them, or give us choices.
Bluetooth is useful and more reliable for beaming than the IR, so I like that and would wish it to stay. I agree that Wifi, while a different concept, should also be there due to it catching on.
Finally, on data entry, I hope Palm will fix the annoying problem whereby sometimes when entering data in a field, such as in DocsToGo, nothing will accept the data as data entry. Instead it insists that you are simply moving the cursor around the screen. In other words a better way of managing screen location/cursos movement and actually entering data. This is inherent with any device where data entry is not done in a reserved area: again a byproduct of that slider design, although the T3 does have the same flaw (which is why I gave it away).
RE: Make The Leap
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Lord, help me become the person my dog thinks I am!
RE: Make The Leap
Sharp Wizard-->Handspring Visor "Deluxe"-->Sony Clie SJ30-->Palm Tungsten T3 w/ SE T68i
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RE: Make The Leap
I hate the slider!
And PLEASE bring back Grafitti 1. I don't care what Palm said about Grafitti 2 being "better," it is nothing but a bunch of extra, unnecessary strokes. Hey, even the PRC government recognized that extra strokes were a waste of time. ;-)
RE: Make The Leap
I will add my pitch for blending graffitti 1 with g2. There was hope on the Zire 72 and with Palm winning the lawsuit. On the Zire 72 there was once a note implying both graffiti 1 and 2 were available. Double stroke characters slow down data entry due to having to wait for the PDA to detect which character to use. Some g2 is nice, and I see no mutual exclusivity between g2 and g1, so, Palm - blend them, or give us choices.
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there are ways around it
http://discussion.brighthand.com/palmhandhelds/showthread.php?s=150f5e78b7264a2e81e12ed0ee22639c&threadid=66227
I posted illustrations on how to write a space immediately following an 'L'. You can do the same with other 2 stroke characters as well. Here are some of them:
"51" instead of '$' - s in the number area followed by an 'a' OR a regular '1' (vertical line) ontop or below the 's'
"-1" instead of '+' - keep the horizontal and vertical lines from intersecting in the number area
In general, strokes that normally interesect to create such characters can to seperated to create other characters without waiting for the 1st stroke to 'settle'
[signature0]the secret to enjoying your job is to have a hobby that's even worse[/signature0]
[signature1]My PDAs: Visor --> Visor Neo (blue) --> Zire 71.... so ends the "marathon", for now[/signature1]
RE: Make The Leap
The entire American legal system consists of creating obstacles, then solutiuons to those obstacles. It has as yet not ocurred to our law men in DC that life would be simpler if the obstacles were not built in the first place.
Similarly with Palm. Why go from a very fast and easy to use G1 to a cumbersome G2, while removing the ability to retain the old characters that worked? The logical extension would have been to change EVERY lettin in that move, something even Palm chose not to do.
I see no reason why bht G1 people, and the G2 people cannot be happy and that can be done by providing single stroke letters from G1 as alternatives to their G2 counterparts. Tealscript did this however that has other issues.
The method suggested in the prior post about not overlapping a character or partial character, while true, is rather useless on the Kyocera smartphone where the pad is small and it is easy to overlap without intending it to do so.
Dont give me work arounds for a system that was "fixed" when it was never "broke" in the first place. Give me one valid reason right now why I Palm cannot give the single stroke letters back - at least as a selectable option.
Simon
RE: 256 MB
[signature0]the secret to enjoying your job is to have a hobby that's even worse[/signature0]
[signature1]My PDAs: Visor --> Visor Neo (blue) --> Zire 71.... so ends the "marathon", for now[/signature1]
RE: 256 MT
Hate the slider
RE: Hate the slider
but i think there going to keep the slider cause when I think tungsten T I think the slider not the massive screen, and that just sounds like a tungsten E replacement not the T5
RE: Hate the slider
In my opinion it detracts from the handheld experience by introducing a needless mechanical googaw.
From the pics that are circulating it looks like it may not have one anyway.
So glad if slider is history
Zen.
RE: Hate the slider
I say that now.
Every time I pick up my TH55!
Psion did the same!!
Also, I think its clever marketing - T5 sounds like the Palm powered handheld has been though 5 versions and is a refined product.
I guess 6 a bad number as well??
Richard Warrender - Hand2Hand5 Webmaster
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RE: Rude Pocket PC Owners?
I for one desperately want the T5 to be the device Palm needs to really compete (and hopefully surpass) the Pocket PC line. I own both devices, but have not had a new Palm for some time as the Pocket PC's have simply met my needs better (my current Pocket PC is an iPAQ 4150 a device equal to or slightly smaller - depending on the dimension being compared - to the m505, with built in WiFi and BT, 400MHz, etc.). A T5 with Built in WiFI, Palm OS 6 (sorry, I just can't bring myself to use the cobalt and garnet names, I really dislike them!), 320x480, removable battery, and thinner/shorter would most likely make me switch my main device back to a Palm OS device. The new iPAQ line doesn't have a direct replacement for the 4150 - which IMO is the best PDA ever released by anyone! The new devices are either slightly larger with equal (or in some cases, FEWER) features than the 4150, and can't match its style. They also have no "small" devices with VGA screens, so Palm - if they can make a T5 w/ 320x480 and keep it small - will still have the screen advantage.
What always angered me to no end was Palm's glacial enhancement to the product line (waiting for the m505 to become the m515 was enough to make me say goodbye to Palm), and now that SOny is out my big fear is that they will go back to trickling out new models (2005: oh, here's the new Zire 75 - it's a 72 but with a higher megapixel camera 2006: here's the ZIre 76 - it's a 75 but with more memory and Palm OS Cobalt) and so on..no, I am not being a nsotty Pocket PC user - in fact, I am amzed at how quickly a user who dares use a Pocket PC or say anything good about it can be ostracized by the Palm community - my personal feeling is that we are ALL PDA users - and as such the distictions that fanatical users typically tend to make among different models.platforms, etc are IMO non-productive and pointless. In fact, look at how most of the non-PDA using people view all of us - as "Palm Pilot users" regardless of whether we use Palm, PPC, or some other platform (a no matter that there has been no such PDA as a Palm Pilot for almost 8 years now...
ANyway, my point is we're all more similar than different, and I personally will use whatever device suits my needs the best, be it Palm, PPC, or something else (I started out on a Newton MessagePad 110, and have been a Handheld user ever since).
Back to topic tho - I fear for Palm, and their old practice of v...e...r...y...s...l...o...w...evolution of hardware is something that they can no longer afford to do. SOny may be gone, but PPC is now much more a danger than it was in the "good bad old days", thus Palm needs to ditch the "little bit at a time" philosophy and deliver some decked out powerhouses the way only Palm can, at comparable prices and features sets (or above in features would be a nice change for once!) or else their market share is going to continue to slide. So come on Palm, get off your lazy laurels and dazzle us, show us what Palm can really do, and make it so sexy and powerful and useful that everyone will have to have one. That's the Palm that a lot of users would come back to... :-)
RE: Psion did the same!!
Only in theory. Only *unused*. Once people buy it and *try* to use it, they run away!
RE: Psion did the same!!
RE: Psion did the same!!
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: Psion did the same!!
I think the ostracism to which you refer comes from two sources....
One, people here genuinely like Palm and their philosophy -- the idea that the device should be very good at what you use it for the most. Witness the ease with which you can create appointments, edit fields in your contacts database, etc. These take just a couple of taps. Not so with PPC. But, hey, PPC can play any kind of multimedia file out there! Woo-hoo. For me, the ease of use far, far outweighs the feeping creaturism. But, frankly, Palm fans are all too aware of Microsoft's deep pockets and the fate of its previous rivals. I'm happy for PPC lovers who want real time video multi-tasked with MP3 downloads. Go buy a PPC and fill your boots. But its not what I want and I dont want Palm to fail because of Microsoft's deep pockets. That would mean I would HAVE to use Microsoft products again, ones which I consider inferior. So excuse me if I root for the little guy, even if the little guy happens to be number one (market share) at the present time.
Two, we have been trolled to death on PIC and elsewhere by idiots who, unlike yourself, can see absolutely nothing good in Palm and absolutely nothing bad in PPC. Yes, they are not credible, but they have polluted thread after thread with nonsense no different than spam. When I see another PPC proponent come on board here, I shudder to think that it may be another MMM (Mindless Microsoft Moron).
That all said, I have to completely agree with your depiction of Palm in its production of incremental hardware upgrades. Just look at the T5, if there truly are only 128MB of RAM on it you have to ask yourself why? Memory is cheap, cheap, cheap! Put a ton on it, for crying out loud. Surely there is no technical barrier. The only reason for having 128, I think, is that it's predecessor had 64. Very infuriating to see such small steps from the main producer of my favourite PDAs.
RE: Psion did the same!!
more memory would imply...
There should be some kind of update to the way Hotsync works, it should be WAY faster.
And about "memory management": I usually have my SD cards almost full and have to start deleting things to put there some 200 KB file - while the internal memory has still >20MB free (and I still could delete a number of apps that haven't been used since the day I installed them). If I had 128 MB of internal memory, I guess I'd have about 80 whooping MB of unused memory, while I'd still be shuffling SD cards looking for another 200 KB of free space.
Is this situation gonna change?
(yes, I know and have tried RAMdrive and use it when absolutely necessary - but causes problems and looks like the 2002 version IS the last one that will ever be)
While we're at it: I've been wondering about the uses of putting FireWire on a PDA. Wouldn't it be nice? No more problems about USB host vs. USB "client" (or whatever it is called), since FW is peer-to-peer; plenty of speed; possibility to use FireWire devices... (not only disk drives; what about using the PDA to control a digital videocamera, for example?)
RE: Psion did the same!!
And how many alternate Launchers are there for Palm OS?
RE: Psion did the same!!
I have to speak up as someone who did away with using alot of the bult-ins that came with my Clie TH55.
It's Palm OS, but I still ditched G2 for G1, CO, and more.
RE: Psion did the same!!
Yo, MS-butt-kisser. I just got done using a PPC that I BOUGHT! It's crap! YOU can keep spreading the lies in the hopes that BillG the Sociopath will send you some consulting work (or adopt you, it's what all you PPC weenies *really* want), the rest of us WON'T repeat your lies about how "great" and "stable" and "productive" PPC is.
RE: Psion did the same!!
To say that the Pocket PCs are junk is just plain wrong. I don't think the Pocket PCs are as elegant or efficient as a Palm OS device but I do think there is a more innovation occuring in the Pocket PC hardware camp than in Palm own camp. It would be nice if PalmOne released a handheld with a VGA quality screen... I couldn't give a hoot about built-in digital cameras with PDAs.
RE: Psion did the same!!
"Palm OS doesn't support memory cards over 512MB currently...
My T/C couldn't read my 1GB SD card."
I'll have to disagree with you there.
My Tungsten C is reading my 1GB SD card just fine.
I've got 500MB on it already.
Tungsten C has the latest updates (version 3?)
SD card is a SanDisk (www.sandisk.com)
What kind of trouble were you having?
-Chris
Tungsten C, Palm IIIxe, Wizard OZ-9520
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
RE: Psion did the same!!
Huh?! Watcha talkin 'bout willis? There's tons of users using 1GB SD cards in their Tungstens and Treos...
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RE: Psion did the same!!
Maybe cus it a PPC? Just get the entire emedicine pda lib. It costs about $100 bucks and is about a 100 MB's which fits easily on my Treo 600 SD card fyi! :)
http://secure.emedicine.com/itemlist.wws?category=PDA+eBooks
WOrks very well from my experience! :)
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RE: Psion did the same!!
Regardless, it doesn't change the fact that the one program I use most often on a PDA comes only for a Pocket PC platform. I'm carrying both PDAs with me to work... since I keep all my other stuff on the T/C.
The emergency programs don't cover the information I need for my field... Infectious Disease. 5 minute ID consult isn't that great either from Skyscape. I much preferred UptoDate since the information is the same as on the website and CD-ROMs and extremely extensive (except for lacking pictures and some diagrams on the Pocket PC version). I was hoping that UpToDate would release a version for the Palm OS since many of the good mini-references are available for Palm OS already.
RE: Psion did the same!!
RE: Psion did the same!!
New T5 Pic
Also, Palm new product release dates are typically around 11-1 and 5-1.
RE: New T5 Pic
-- this shows THREE pictures on one page.
Good God! Tell me it ain't so! That joypad is TOO SMALL!!!
And what about that Mr Palm photo?! Is there to be a new unit with a slider too? Or is that a PShop jobbie?
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Tungsten|T5
-Cobalt OS6, 128MB RAM, HiRes+,
- bluetooth, WiFi built-in
- 520MHz PXA270 chip.
- No Slider
- D-pad will be Tungsten|C-styled.
- The battery is good enough to survive a workday.
- November 2004 release.
-.50 in shorter than a T3 slid open.
- Size 4.7x3.0x0.66in.
- slightly heavier that T3, but not a lot.
- 1 SD slot. But as it already has built-in bluetooth and wifi (802.11b).
- Universal Connecter - Included.
- New 'Media' appliction.
- around $399.
RE: New T5 Pic
Sharp Wizard-->Handspring Visor "Deluxe"-->Sony Clie SJ30-->Palm Tungsten T3 w/ SE T68i
RE: New T5 Pic
For the record, I will say that the T|C, Treo 600 & Zire 72 button layouts are the best of all modern OS5 era Palms. The T3 and the mono Zires are the worst.
I'd have no issues with a C-style pad. If anything it'll help people make the connection that this is the "real" successor to the T3 and the T|c. If the T|C is going to be "refreshed" with new OS & packaging, then this will unite the T|C2 & T5 pretty effectively.
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HOLY TUNGSTEN CV!!! This is it. PalmOne aughtta be sending royalties at any time. Then again, only 82 million posts on PIC begging a model exactly like this.
Man, I had forgotten all about making that CV. I can't believe you all remembered. Geeesh, how bad do you all want a tablet, dual-wireless, Hi-rez P1 device?
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: New T5 Pic
Did you notice the similarity in just the naming of the T|T5 and your T|CV? heheh, not sure if it was intentional on your part but it just seems weird...
If you don't see it, V means 5, so you named your "fictional" T|C the T|C5...all palmOne did was take your idea and make it the T|T5 :p.
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Ker-ching!!! Now the check$ will be in the mail. Pretty strange.
Actually "Foo" is probably correct. The thing wreaks of a hoax. Sure got some traffic to the site tho.
Lo-rez pic, dark colors, looks like a collection from the P1 parts bin & most notably, the full pic shows some problems: #1 P1 logo has some spotties #2 Midway down the color/contrast seems to "break" on the case, probably from a cut/paste. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks too ugly for PalmOne's flagship and the logo seems oversized.
Let's see if dude can blow the dust off his 1 megapix camera or not? :-)
BTW, you can count on the Treo 800g: She's 4 real so who needs the T5?
http://churchoflivingfaith.com/images/treo800g.jpg
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: New T5 Pic
I personally believe it's real, and I won't change my opinion unless I've been "officially" proven wrong :p. I've proved my belief in a thread over in PIC's palmOne forum...go and check out my post.
Of course...I want a Treo 650 too :p.
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Calendar|Preferences|D-Pad with Button|Tasks|Notes
Contacts|Screen Orientation|D-Pad with Button|Active Input|Calc
Intel PXA27X, Motorola's ARM Processor, or Texas Instruments OMAP? Pick one Palm Enthusiasts, the choice should be yours. When handheld makers make you choose the ARM Processor, you win.
RE: New T5 Pic
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
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Are you ready to admit defeat on this one yet? I am. Too many angled shots prove the guy was hold ing something?
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: New T5 Pic
There are also a number of visual artifacts in that image which cast doubt on its authenticity, such as...
http://www.pocketfactory.com/images/DSC00070.jpg
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RE: New T5 Pic
If you zoom the picture up 800% I can see on the bottom left hand corner a rather horrid blur where the picture has been doctored in order to join units..
Wishful thinking from a lot of people...
I'll wait untill its in stores before IT becomes real...
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I just took at photo of my TT at 1mb guess what it lines up perfectly with DSC00070.jpg if I reduce the picture down to 25% of its original size....
theres not a mm in it... :) maybe I was lucky...
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And the left side is (my left looking at the pic) not straight.
Plus the digital silk screen area is not alligned with the rest of the screen, you can see the left side(my left looking at the image) has white under the silkscreen bar, and on the other side it doesn't have that white area.
And the screen is too clear compared to the rest of the image. And since when does palm put a colour logo on, it's always white (or one solid colour that doesn't stick out) and the guy who posted this is reluctant to give information about taking days to respond to the post.
RE: New T5 Pic
In my personal opinion, it's a very good hoax
First of all, the unit breaks no new styling ground. I'd have expected at least a new case shape if the slider is gone that suits a sled formfactor better (think wider on the bottom ala Palm V/m5xx) and a different button layout. I truly expected to see the Zire 72's buttons on the T4/T5. I also do not believe the dual wireless spec either. My $'s still on dual SDIO slots + P1 wi-fi SDIO card, regardless if there's a slider on the new device or not. Finally, it's interesting how no additional pics from any further angles were ever posted and then that one unit conveniently disappeared when the questions really started flying on the 1sec thread.
It's actually entirely possible that we will just see one or two refreshed OS5 models this fall and something like this (tablet-style T5 with dual wireless) simply won't be ready in time for fall '04 and will be launched in spring '05 along with the T|E2. The E2's specs seem rather underwhelming for any price point above $200 in spring '05 as well.
More so than ANYTHING, it's that hideously ugly PalmOne logo. I hate their new colors, btw, but no one would be stupid enough to paste them in color all over their latest flagship model...especially one called their "last chance" model to make headway against PPC and Smartphones. I expect the silkscreened monochrome PalmOne logo to carry on like it has from the new Zires & Treo to the rest of the lineup but not so garishly.
P.S. Another theory:
There was a lot of buzz from China and elsewhere shortly after the T3's launch last fall. That's when I started seeing the T4 specs that were rumored until recently (slider, UC, OS6, dual SDIO). It's entirely possible that that model was shelved at the 11th hour b/c it the online buzz convinced them it was just a moderate step forward from the existing T3. Work could have begun later than usual on a T5 model to replace it with no hope of meeting a fall '04 retail target. So maybe PalmOne'll try to limp on this fall with only a new Treo and the refreshed T|C pre-loaded with OS6?
RE: New T5 Pic
me sick. Thats the same thing the pundits had to say about the T|2, T|3, etc...They ALL turned out to be real!!!
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I am honestly kind of dismayed when the leaked pics/info of the new Treo (the day before the T5 "info" hit) just happened to get lost in all of the hoopla. I am sure that when the whistle's been blown on the T5 some dialog will return to the Treo 650.
RE: New T5 Pic
FWIW, Mike, I thought the same thing before I got my T-C recently, but after getting used to it, I believe this arrangement (and size) are a very workable balance between functionality and space.
Regarding the legitimacy of the pictures - A poster at 1src supposedly saw something in the image file that indicated the pictures had been taken with a Clie, which would indicate a wee bit of legitimacy...
RE: New T5 Pic
Everything else looks cheesy except for ONE thing. All the shots have "little" angles in the perspective. That makes photoshopping a lot > difficult. Too much work imo.
As boring as this is, I hope it's a hoax.
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: New T5 Pic
Thank God I'm not the only one around here with Common Sense.
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RE: New T5 Pic
Nah. I just fondled a TC today to try out that dinky joypad. Too small, too stiff, and the circle is too SHARP! ow!
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Nick
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That said, I like the Treo 600's layout best of all. I am sure Hawkins had something to do with that design and I'd like to see it eventually become standardized across the P1 line. A surprsingly decent 5-way navigator is found on the Zire 31, for what it's worth.
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Not to mention the best looking case. I greatly miss the old Graphite colored aluminum shell of the original T. :-(
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RE: New T5 Pic
If the slider goes, and if they bring back single stroke characters, then I am interested.
Simon
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I'm much happier that I have Graffiti 1 again.
..: eston
http://www.hyalineskies.com/
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RE: New T5 Pic -- FAKE!!!
That's actually a RELIEF!! I didn't like those teeny buttons and tiny joypad!
But what is this someone else has said about NO Cobalt units until **2005**?!!? Is palmOne fekkin NUTS?!! (Why do I even bother to ask...?)
RE: New T5 Pic
Better Tungsten B rather Tungsten T5
Therefore, naming this the Tungsten T5 is senseless since there is word that there could be no more slider, so because this handheld will apparently sport Bluetooth all the way, I'd rather call it Tungsten B, with B standing for "Bluetooth Ready".
Is there a good reason why this slider-less Tungsten T deserves the name Tungsten T? Is it because of the Screen? I thought that the T (Transformational) refers to the slider design which hides the graffiti/active input area.
Intel PXA27X, Motorola's ARM Processor, or Texas Instruments OMAP? Pick one Palm Enthusiasts, the choice should be yours. When handheld makers make you choose the ARM Processor, you win.
Built in WiFi.
Just tell em if I should cancel my WiFi SD Card order for my T3.
RE: Built in WiFi.
Of course you can't cancel it.
They want ALL of your money!
T|T5 and OS6 = rumor, nothing more
the first is known as the Treo Ace and the second is known as Agnus or Angus (i dont remember which codename it was). while i have not seen the devices; or have received information direct from palmone (ie: no NDA issues here) - i can definately speculate that the T|T5 (Agnus?) does not have OS6; it is just a replacement for the T|T3. so, sorry guys. no OS6 yet.
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aaron_ardiri@mobilewizardry.com
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RE: T|T5 and OS6 = rumor, nothing more
take a look, closely at the "photo" - then, look at the simulated picture next to it. now, in my eyes, that looks like the status bar from a Tungsten|T3 = OS 5.3+, the simulated picture is using a status bar from OS6. the photo obviously shows an OS5 based device :)
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aaron_ardiri@mobilewizardry.com
http://www.mobilewizardry.com/members/aaron_ardiri.php
RE: T|T5 and OS6 = rumor, nothing more
treocentral has some good coverage of the new Treo, and nexave seem to have gotten some inside pictures of the new Tungsten. take everything like this with a grain of salt. pre-production units have been created and then the product has been removed in the past. the best option is to wait and see.
the best example of this was the color handera 330 - it did exist; but, never made it. why? who knows. if the rumors are true, i think the new Treo is a great addition; but, the new Tungsten wont really fill the void required - even though many hate that damn slider.
everything is a rumor until it hits the shelves *g*
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aaron_ardiri@mobilewizardry.com
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RE: T|T5 and OS6 = rumor, nothing more
Because Handera didn't have the buying power to gain support from contract manufacturers in order to build their color handheld.
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RE: T|T5 and OS6 = rumor, nothing more
*Sigh*...as bland and unexciting as this device is, it may end up being my next handheld simply because I can't hold out any longer for a much coveted "tablet" style Palm with WiFi. I have been without a PalmOS device since the beginning of this year. Needless to say, I'm suffering withdrawal pains.
Thanks.
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RE: T|T5 and OS6 = rumor, nothing more
my question is why no OS6???
How long have they been creating this beast... how long does any of this stuff need... Its all madness....
I wonder in TEN years time will my TT still work and be in my pocket????
My M505 still works fine... saying that I have an original IBM workpad I could get working again :)
RE: T|T5 and OS6 = rumor, nothing more
You can't keep a stock price moving on the old product in your pocket.
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: T|T5 and OS6 = rumor, nothing more
I dont have to I am the consumer...
I was just merly wondering on how I would feel about my TT in ten years time.. me workpad is now 7 years old and it feels like a fosil... psion5 from hardware user persective still feels good... lol
I went out n bought a psion5 £400 month or so later was given Workpad smaller and keyboardless feeling more like eletronic papper pad etc and I am still using palm hmmm
and ten years from now... id wanna still be using simple electronic paper (maybe)...
2014 not far away :)
Tungsten Angus and Treo 600 specs!!!!!!!!!!
"There are two new palmOne units coming this fall -- that's it through the end of the year as palmOne told a group in June. There will be NO OS 6 units before January.
First: palmOne Treo "Ace" - It's pretty much as "outted" here already. No flash for the camera (that's a fact btw). EDGE RX/TX and CDMA 1X Dual Band units, Bluetooth 1.1 (modem, obex, headset and car kit functions cited) 312mHZ Intel ARM processor, Blazer 4.0 Browser, Versa Mail 3.0.
Second: palmOne Tungsten "Angus" - Looks much like the Tungsten E. Runs OS 5.4 (NOT Cobalt, none until after the first of the year in OS 6). 320 x 480 TFT 16-bit screen, 256 MB internal flash dive, 32 MB SDRAM, 1020 mAH Li-ion non-removable battery, Bluetooth, SD slot, 5-Way nav and the yet to be leaked Athena Connector (replacing the Universal Connector). NO microphone, LED or WiFi! Basicly it's the Tungsten E's big brother. It will come with the Blazer 4.0 Browser and Versa Mail 2.7 though.
These are the facts for the fall -- that's it at this point on the roadmap."
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=56948
Basically, the Angus (who thinks these names up?) sounds like an updated TE2 than anything else. The lack of wifi would be disappointing but would fall line with PalmOne history of underwhelmingness...*sigh* Also, no Cobalt until 2005 is also pretty grim news imo, especially with sooo many VGA WM2003SE devices being released now...
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Tungsten Angus and Treo 650/ACE/Rowdy specs!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: T|T5 and OS6 = rumor, nothing more
- my question is why no OS6???
this is simple to answer.
PalmSource own OS6; and, since they dont make any devices - its not their concern about getting it out as soon as it is ready. the issue at hand is that there is no licensee who is willing to step up and be the first to license it (is it more expensive?). many of us thought that sony would be one of the first to use it - where their focus is on multi-media and OS6 is rich in multi-media functionality; palmOne is struggling to survive - so, its revamp a few existing models to make the investors happy.
the word going around is that unless PalmSource gets an OS6 licensee soon - they'll also be facing the "unknown" as to where they stand in the market. one reason why it hasn't been licensed is the possibility that it isn't ready yet. i just read on the OS6 discussion forum that cobalt doesn't support landscape modes yet (i would think this would be a requirement).
so, it is possible it is still in development; but, developers can start working with it now - they may just need to finalize some fine tuning. keep in mind it is a new kernel and architecture. as a developer, i am quite happy with OS5 tho :) OS6 doesn't provide anything useful to me as a developer in the realms i work in.
- And thanks for ruining my day with the depressing news that this leaked photo may in fact be the real T5.
sorry :)
- who thinks these names up
i dunno :) but, you can check out the codenames used by most palm devices at the following site. some of them are pretty funny when you think about it.
http://homepage.mac.com/alvinmok/palm/codenames.html
- My M505 still works fine
my Pilot 1000 still works too - after all this time (PalmOS 1.0) - it is formed like a little brick tho *g*
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No Lisencees for Cobalt yet?!
That is certainly depressing news if PalmSource has not actually even gotten a lisencee for Cobalt yet! :( Ugh...boy do I miss Sony. Instead of wondering if Sony will be releasing the next Cobalt UX or TH, we've been reduced to hoping for the Angus from P1. -_- Boy, is that depressing...
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RE: T|T5 and OS6 = rumor, nothing more
- That is certainly depressing news if PalmSource has not actually even gotten a lisencee for Cobalt yet!
well, its important to realize that they may have some; but, its not officially announced anywhere (so, to us = no licensee). there could be a number of issues with licensing OS6. the licensing costs could be higher than OS5 for example right off the bat; if licensee's cannot see a true benefit to move to OS6 from OS5 then they probably wont make the move.
i am sure the licensee's are tinkering with it, but - are yet to decide what they want to do with the OS itself and how to integrate it best with their existing product lines. you also know that companies like palmone dont like to announce or see rumors about new devices (ie: upcoming Treo), as this hurts the existing sales channels and partnerships.
on the front page of PIC, there was a new mention of Treo 600 in the wild - i wonder how they feel if there is discussion about the "next" treo. i wouldn't want to sign a contract with "old" stuff :) rumors are both good and bad - hence, why you should take everything with a grain of salt. right now? you have to stick with the device(s) you have.
if your holding off for that next PDA - you might as well be holding off forever. when the new device does come out, you'll end up waiting for the one after it. its all relative.
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aaron_ardiri@mobilewizardry.com
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RE: T|T5 and OS6 = rumor, nothing more
Wait a minute. This is news to you NOW?!!? This has been (BAD!) news since Cobalt was bloody announced!! Why do you think we've (me, foo, maybe abosco too) been down on it? That and its LACK OF FILESYSTEM are just unbelievable... well, there's also the damned missing icon in the PalmBar to bring up the Command Bar (have to raise the Soft G area *first* -- dumbdumbdumb!!!).
Ben Combee, r u reading this?!
RE: T|T5 and OS6 = rumor, nothing more
- Wait a minute. This is news to you NOW?!!?
who said it was news to me? all i was stating was that even now, after its supposed to be completed; discussion about lacking features still exist. landscape support *exists* in already shipping devices (ux50, tapwave et al).
- FILESYSTEM
its been mentioned before; and, it'll be mentioned again. you dont need a stupid bloody filesystem. thats what external media cards are for. you dont see your PC having a file system in its "ram" do you? keep in mind, its not a little HDD in there, it is still a memory chip.
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http://www.mobilewizardry.com/members/aaron_ardiri.php
RE: T|T5 and OS6 = rumor, nothing more
Do I really need to provide counter-examples?
(...hey, even my 10 years old HP48 calculator has a filesystem!! :P)
RE: T|T5 and OS6 = rumor, nothing more
When you plug in the new WiFi SDIO card, for example, how can I download a new MP3 file as I browse the web? Where would it go?
Sometimes a filesystem CAN'T help!
Had a TXT file on the SD I've been using with that garbage PPC. I recall someone telling me that D2G will now read TXT files. Great! I can liberate that file from the PPC. Have D2G open it and beam it to my CLIE. Fat bloody chance! D2G only sees files it has moved to SD. And using Filez (that's where the "filesystem" part of this comes in), trying to move the TXT file to RAM gives a No-No dialog. (Hmmm... would it do so on a Zod? And, hmmm, now I recall someone saying a UX CLIE could do TXT in RAM...)
Has ANYONE tried this sort of thing -- and succeeded?
RE: T|T5 and OS6 = rumor, nothing more
In the same way, the capability to use directories is kind of a pro feature in most programs I've seen. It's SO stupid.
In the meantime, I'm still waiting for some way to fill up the >20 free Mb in my T3 internal RAM. Patrick is right; I can't imagine of any more useful apps than those I already have, but I have CONTENT (JPGs, Word docs, HTML, whatever!!) that could go to those 20 MB withouth making me shuffle SD cards looking for some 100 free KB.
(And surely the T3's battery would last longer without the card...)
It's a hoax!
Read this:
http://www.1src.com/?m=show&id=437
RE: It's a hoax!
Btw, wouldn't a locking slider be a good compromise? Something along the lines of the Samsung Matrix phone? If you had to somehow actuate a button to disengage the slider lock to close the unit, additional mechanical cost & complexity would be added but it WOULD pretty much satisfy the wants of both sides (the pro slider & anti-slider camps).
Now that the furor over the T5 has subsided, I predict it'll be another month until we start seeing some "real" leaks. Well, let's just go back to talking about the Treo Ace/650 for the next few weeks as that looks to be a very real, tangible product that we can speculate on.
The Temptation of the Darkside
I once again was tempted to buy the HP 6315. I stopped by today at CompUSA, and I was able to talk the sales guy in letting me install my SIM card into a demo 6315. It worked. I was able to test out all three wireless options. Neat. I was able to pair it with my JABRA BT earphone and make a call.
I then accessed the internet via GPRS, and then via WiFi. I told the guy I wanted one. As he and the manager looked for a unit under the displays, I said to myself...WAIT....I then told the salesguy I wanted to think about it just a little bit more.....and I hurriedly walked out.
The gravitational pull of the Darkside is great, but the only thing holding me back is......
1. The various palm software I've purchased to run my life
2. The stability of the palm OS
3. The speed of the palm OS
4. The thought that PALMONE will one day soon release a unit to
compete directly with the 6315. And since the 6315 is the
first of it's kind, I'm sure there is a wall of competitors
just holding back to release theirs.
Thanks, I just had to get the thoughts out of my head. Ponder, Ponder, Ponder.....sigh.....
Has anyone else in the rebel force played with the 6315? What do you think? Has it too tempted you?
Have you given in and why?
RE: The Temptation of the Darkside
monkee - the 6315 is nice but too big for a phone. i'd hold off to make a decision until the new Treo comes out given your points listed. take a step back, take a deep breath, exhale, and relax.
RE: The Temptation of the Darkside
FOOLS!!! PPC is GARBAGE!! Don't give in to the whispers of Satan! (Satan, BillG, SteveB, all the same damned thing...)
Colbalt CLIPBOARD Size Question
1. Unlimited Size Memos.
2. Encrypted PIM Security.
Does anyone know if it will offer an unlimited (or larger) size CLIPBOARD?
RE: Colbalt CLIPBOARD Size Question
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Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
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JLM.
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it will be called the T5
Computers don't make mistakes, people do.
Tungsten T5 Specs
CPU: 416Mhz Xscale
Memory 256Mb, 215MB avalible
Form Factor: Tungsten E
OS: 5.4
Wireless Capabilities: Bluetooth Built in
New File Transfer capabilities. Allow you to sync Files and Folders with your desktop.
Drive Mode allows use as a flash drive.
RE: Tungsten T5 Specs
NO BUILT-IN WI-FI????? Come on, Palm1. We're not asking for much here. Bastards.
RE: Tungsten T5 Specs
CPU: 416Mhz Xscale
Memory 256Mb, 215MB avalible
Form Factor: Tungsten E
OS: 5.4
Wireless Capabilities: Bluetooth Built in
New File Transfer capabilities. Allow you to sync Files and Folders with your desktop.
Drive Mode allows use as a flash drive.
WHAT KIND OF UPGRADE OVER MY T3 IS THIS??????????
RE: Tungsten T5 Specs
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And there are too many rumors going around with the T5, I can't believe any of them til I see the official specs for it, and all of these rumors conflict with each other
Whatever
1 - To be able to manage my contacts for sales & networking purposes
2 - To be able to manage my schedule, itinerary and link it with my contacts database
3 - To make notes - about meetings, ideas, anything really
4 - To create and edit Word, Excel and PowerPoint compatible files - some big ones (I have files over 20Mb in size on my desk top) - and to be 100% compatible with the files I have on my desktop - oh yeah, and for the device to be quicker than me
5 - To pick up and send emails, with attachments of any kind
6 - And to browse the 'net - but only every now and then.
7 - Good battery life
8 - Easy sync and connection to my desktop-based data
What ever the technical spec I'd like the option to play some MP3s as well as the odd game - when you're on the road a lot it's nice to have some entertainment.
It needs to be small and light enough to fit in my jacket pocket so I always have it with me.
I'm not bothered about it being a phone - I already have one of those - it looks like a phone, feels like a phone and talks like a phone, though it would be nice (via blue tooth?) to have my new Palm initiate a call for me on my mobile phone for me.
It goes without saying that the screen needs to be bright and crisp.
I live in the UK, but I'd like to pay US prices. (I don't want much do I?!)
So I don't care about what processor it is, or how mach RAM there is, whether it's static or FLASH, or whether it will run OS6. I just want to be able to the stuff I've listed - without giving it too much thought.
And before I get flamed I was once an engineer - worked on ARM and memory products for a semiconductor company, and wrote software tools for their customers - I have a business to run but I know geek stuff too - so the ability to upload new programmes, and try new developments, is also on my list.
What's my point?
My point is this - let's worry about outcomes, about what we want to do with these things to make life more fun/easier etc, and let that drive the technical specs. I don't care if something is 10 grammes heavier - I won't really notice it, but if it's WIFI drains my battery all the time I will get annoyed!
Martin Schmalenbach
Director
Potential Energy Ltd
www.p-nrg.com
RE: Whatever
You controdict yourself a lot..
"some MP3s as well as the odd game"
"I don't care about what processor it is"
"4 - To create and edit Word, Excel and PowerPoint compatible files - some big ones (I have files over 20Mb in size on my desk top) - and to be 100% compatible with the files I have on my desktop - oh yeah, and for the device to be quicker than me"
"or how mach RAM there is"
are both things not relitive to each other..????
I agree there needs to be better / radical change to how new palms manage data.. I for one have been using palms for 7 years or so and have a lot of data 1000's notepad messages 1000's sms's 1000's of contacts etc..
A number of things you want have been availible for a long time for me the TT.. bluetooth made life so much nicer... for example.. i did try and play with web content with infer-red but it was not as much fun...
"And to browse the 'net - but only every now and then"
"Easy sync and connection to my desktop-based data"
"To make notes - about meetings, ideas, anything really"
"- To be able to manage my contacts for sales & networking purposes"
"to have my new Palm initiate a call for me on my mobile phone for me"
go into contacts go into the person u want and click the quick connect button at the top and the middle.. u need to have a bluetooth phone set up etc but it works very very well.. used to use this on psion5 too but that never had bluetooth.. :)
I also dont want my palm to be like a phone... i like the fact that its made of mettle my tt has outlasted about 8 phones so far... due to them mainly being made of plastic...
some little touches would be nice you have mp3.. ogg player why not be able to set up an alarm to play ur fav mp3 etc
id love an app to manage my picture messages/ animations even short video sent via mobiles etc..
i agree that outcomes are needed it needs to be thought through and not just place in a box... spec is important though if it looks too far out of date then people just wont purchase it...
the old days of palm being on 14mhz and ppc on 133mhz or more....
it look as if your getting more for your money... from someone who has not compaired...
build quality for me is so important... its uesed 365 days and it that does take a bashing....
RE: Whatever
search n sort from all from one number or contact name that would be useful...
Additional T5 info I found this morning.
http://www.soton.ac.uk/~nab101/t5upload.htm
The new T5 info
And what's this? *palmOne* finally sees the need for a FILESYSTEM?!
Hello, PalmSource! Are you listening to your top licensee?!
Can one of the new Zire owners comment on how good/bad the Media app is? It's listed here as doing video -- does the current version do that too?
RE: Whatever
It is clear what P1 is doing: This "internal drive" business will be a RAMDISK-like function, allowing you to set aside a portion of your RAM to be used like a second SD card. I don't think this is what Mike and I are looking for of a filesystem for internal memory. There will still be the restriction on the memory not used in the RAMDISK of only being able to hold .prc, .pdb and a few other file types.
Of course, this is made available because P1 didn't include WiFi in the T5 but wants you to shell out ANOTHER $130 (on top of the new device, a new cradle, new travel chargers, new extra or 3-in-1 stylii) to buy their WiFi card and they recognize that you can't download .zip files or .mp3 files (etc) from the Internet unless you had a RAMDISK-like capability.
So, lets try to do some back-of-the-envelope calculation for a long time owner of UC-equipped Palm's looking to upgrade to what many of us WANTED the T5 to be:
$400 Tungsten|T5
30 Cradle
30 Travel Charger
30? Vehicle Charger
40 Hard Case
20? Extra Stylii
100? Wireless Keyboard
130 WiFi Card
$780 TOTAL
Palm's revenue-creation strategy: Priceless.
RE: Whatever
We'll have to see about whether this is all Flash or what the filesystem is like...
TEN DAYS TO GO!!!
RE: Whatever
it will be nice to see the evolution of a FAKE and to see which of the fakes was the closest....
no cobalt, 2 types of memory
The beginning is 216 (?) MB total memory; the middle maybe saying that XX MB is for applications; the end of it seems to be saying that 14x MB of the memory is a drive, or something like that.
That is logical if the T5 runs OS5, which has a 128 MB memory limit. Since the OS can't handle the entire 256 meg of memory, they make half of the memory into an internal memory drive, something like a built in SD card.
But if the T5 had been running cobalt with the 256 MB memory limit they wouldn't have needed the long foot note. There could have been a single kind of memory, rather like the 64 MB of base memory is available to a T3 user.
Even if I'm guessing wrong, the way this device uses memory will be one of the most important things. It means the difference between innovation or the same old, same old in a new package.
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Aside from the model number all I have to say is about time these rumours are starting to leak! The specs given seems to be well below expectations. I would have expected PalmOne to atleast give the next high end Tungsten a 520Mhz processor in line with most new PPCs.
While some here might prefer the slider to go away - personally I think it should remain in the next T handheld. The design is elegant and catches the eyes of many design conscious customers who are bored with the normal tablet designed PDAs out there.
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