Comments on: SplashData Planning to Leverage SplashID Live on WebOS

SplashDataUpdated SplashData's mobile software has long been popular with Palm OS users, so the news that they were partnering with Palm on the new webOS was welcomed by many. As part of our ongoing webOS coverage, Palm Infocenter contacted the SplashID developers for more information on their plans for the platform. SplashData CEO Morgan Slain has sent us a brief response, telling us how they plan to capitalize on webOS's unique development approach:

"We at SplashData are enthusiastic about the Pre and webOS, we're proud to have been featured in the announcement at CES, and we have been working with Palm to ensure we can support the launch with a new version of SplashID.

I like the web-based approach for applications since it allows us to leverage the investment we've already made in web-oriented services like SplashID Live."

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Passwords don't belong in The Cloud

Patrick @ 1/19/2009 11:17:29 AM # Q
I'm a big fan of SplashData and of SplashID in particular, but I would never use a product which sends my password database into The Cloud, encrypted or otherwise.

RE: Passwords don't belong in The Cloud
LiveFaith @ 1/19/2009 11:59:02 AM # Q
Ditto on that. Secondly, the folks in SF & NYC may not understand that 1/2 the population of the USA lives outside the cities. Wireless infrastructure is of course less reliable and spotty out here in the sticks. No way on earth, I'm going to keep mission critical in a cloud that I may not be able to access without driving over to the top of the next hill.

I hope this is not going to be the complete paradigm of WebOS. If so, I'll move on now and not pay the EAT for the next decade.

Pat Horne

UPDATE RE: Passwords don't belong in The Cloud
freakout @ 1/20/2009 6:57:43 PM # Q
I got an update from SplashData today, clarifying the email:

The "leverage" I mentioned was in answer to your question about the advantages of Palm's approach to the development environment - we're able to get more use out of the existing investment we made in HTML code and Javascript for SplashID Live. Any actual connection to the SplashID Live service from the Pre version of SplashID would be a user option and not a requirement.

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Treo 270 -> Treo 650 -> Treo 680 -> Centro
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Simple Word Doc is Better

Gekko @ 1/19/2009 11:26:36 AM # Q

you could also just simply create a password protected/encrypted universal standard free-form flexible MS Word Document with all of your data on it and sit it out on a server somewhere and open it with any computer or any device that can open up Word Documents. and your data is not trapped in some black box proprietary closed-form template on some fourth-party's server. and MS Word is free if you already have it as most of us do. why pay a subscription fee and be held hostage by yet another company?

RE: Simple Word Doc is Better
JDS @ 9/9/2009 1:29:23 PM # Q
This is bad advice. Microsoft password protection is easily broken and doesn't encrypt the underlying file. It serves mostly to prevent unintentional use of a document.

I'm OK with storing my sensitive data in the cloud as long as it's encrypted with a strong algorithm as performed by open-source software like KeePass or AxCrypt or TrueCrypt or gpg.

Software that doesn't disclose its source code cannot be trusted. SplashID is a great tool for my own PC and my smartphone, but I don't put its data on a device outside my control unless I further encrypt the pdb file using one of the above tools.

RE: Simple Word Doc is Better
Gekko @ 9/9/2009 1:46:39 PM # Q

Google - Microsoft C4 STRONG Encryption.

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RE: I called it
twrock @ 1/19/2009 4:38:25 PM # Q
.... and that sucks, as in "continues to suck the dollars out of your wallet forever". Nope, I think I'll try to fight this trend and not give my money to companies and software developers whose goal is to rope me in for life to paying them an ongoing fee for "services".

"twrock is infamous around these parts"
(from my profile over at Brighthand due to my negative 62 rep points rating)
RE: I called it
mikecane @ 1/19/2009 5:07:09 PM # Q
Yes, but how many services do you think people will *need*, *want*, or can *afford*?

I remember one eejit saying he wasn't going to buy an iPod because it wouldn't hold (at the time) the X-number of songs the iTunes Music Store was selling. Moron never stopped to think he could have never *afforded* all of them.

I'm not a Pandora addict (don't see the sense of turning a computer into basically a customized *radio station*), so they won't get my $.

SplashID? Most likely not too.

*Will* there be a service or two I *will* want to have? Yes: Twitter is one.

All else I leave up to others to create and shill.

RE: I called it
Gekko @ 1/19/2009 5:19:02 PM # Q

why not just use this, silly?

RE: I called it
mikecane @ 1/19/2009 6:04:35 PM # Q
You don't get it. Twitter needs an income stream. It's destined for FAIL otherwise. I'd pay to keep it.

RE: I called it
Tuckermaclain @ 1/19/2009 6:08:32 PM # Q
I'm not liking this cloud thing one bit. If Palm thinks I'm going to subscribe to a service for each piece of software I want to use I have no reason at all to stay with Palm at all. If there is no emulator capability Palm can put the cloud where the sun don't shine.

RE: I called it
joad @ 1/20/2009 11:21:12 AM # Q
>>I'm not a Pandora addict (don't see the sense of turning a computer into basically a customized *radio station*), so they won't get my $.

Errr, umm... Pandora is free, Mike.

Palm "Preh": as in "eh, where's the microSD and Garnet emulator?"

RE: I called it
mikecane @ 1/20/2009 11:41:24 AM # Q
>>>Errr, umm... Pandora is free, Mike.

Slapping head. I should not make Comments when I'm sleepy. I should not make Comments when I'm sleepy. Etc.

I still don't see the point of it. I used it once, it found some nice matches, but I have other uses for my limited CPU cycles. Plus, music distracts me from writing and reading.

RE: I called it
freakout @ 1/20/2009 12:32:27 PM # Q
Pandora introduced me to Def Leppard. Rocket baby, c'mon...
RE: I called it
mikecane @ 1/21/2009 12:34:05 PM # Q
Pandora is no longer free. Enjoy the ads, baby!

>>>But its founder promised the site will never carry as many audio ads as broadcast radio, despite the fact it pays substantially higher royalty fees to the recording industry.

Riiiight. Hey, I lived at a time when there were less than *ten minutes of ads per hour* on TV.

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$ for SplashID live

vetdoctor @ 1/20/2009 11:31:45 AM # Q
It was trouble to find out, like they dont want you to know, but it's $19.99 a year.

Maybe, just maybe if I still have access to my old numbers 366 days later. If not then the idea of forgetting to pay and loosing it all forever...

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Will SplashData do this for Pre?

mikecane @ 1/23/2009 5:52:55 PM # Q
SplashData releases File Magic transfer software for iPhone and iPod Touch

RE: Will SplashData do this for Pre?
sayso @ 11/20/2009 9:11:49 PM # Q
Funny, all the SplashID optimism Sprint technical support in Cincinnati told me today that Sprint/Palm does not stand behind Splash and I will have to adjust. I said that had to be B...S... and they asked me to leave and called the cops. I have used Splash since Treo 300 days now the 755p resets with a mere touch. Swear I was not screaming,even after 30-40 min to speak w manager. I adore the Splash products. With disclaiming friends like Sprint as Palm spokemen, who needs enemies

RE: Will SplashData do this for Pre?
Gekko @ 11/21/2009 1:04:05 AM # Q

i use a strong encrypted MS Word File. free, simple, easy, effective, universal, ubiquitous, open/non-proprietary, non-black-box, free-flow format.

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