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Palm.comWord has just come this evening in that Palm has just updated its Palm.com website. The new design is a bold departure from their old layout with a fresh new look which seems to coincide with the upcoming new launch.

The refreshed site places an upfront focus on the products with large high resolution, interactive images and panoramic backgrounds. At the moment the homepage seems to single out the Treo Pro, Centro and Treo 800w as the company's only current products at this time. Handhelds are no longer featured on the main site.

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clever design

joad @ 1/5/2009 8:53:13 PM # Q
Well, at least it looks cool and modern, I never liked that old design. But this new design is sllloooowwww - must run on Windows Mobile :)

Yep, not a mention of anything but those 3 phones, you'd think that's all they have. BUT - if you dig down deep via the "shop" link, you'll eventually make it to a legacy designed page that has the TX, E2, and Zire22 - cobwebs and all.

Perhaps the site is just in transition, but it's pretty silly of them to hide the fact they also have handhelds. Colligan's island seems to act as though PDAs are the devil's spawn nowadays, such a strange reaction probably fostered by the jackboot of the cell companies...


RE: clever design
hkklife @ 1/5/2009 9:12:37 PM # Q
For all intents & purposes, the 800w is a dead smartphone walking, so it's as good as gone after the CDMA Treo Pro breaks cover.

Palm's "active" lineup for the first half of '09 will basically be: Centro 64mb GSM & CDMA, Centro 128mb CDMA, Treo Pro GSM & CDMA. And that's all they will continue to have until whatever is announced Thursday hits the market in May/June/July/August (take yer pick!)

On a related, I LOVE the new site facelift. Great sense of design and style given the rather bland topic of candybar smartphones. I really like the direction Palm is going aesthetically starting with the Treo Pro. Let's hope they can keep it up and translate it to Nova and new product(s)!

Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p

RE: clever design
sungod @ 1/5/2009 10:13:53 PM # Q
after the CDMA Treo Pro breaks cover

Looks like it's starting to peek over the covers. The Treo Pro is alreddy listed as "3G CDMA + EDVO on the new site.

Someone in the promotions department has gotten ahead of them selves.

Att Palm:
I am one of many T|X owners who would happily be Beta testers for Nova.
We could give you valuable feedback without ever having to go threw the networks for approval.

RE: clever design
joad @ 1/6/2009 4:34:48 PM # Q
I bet it's gonna be a hip, slimmed down Martin Luther King into February, then on to a hip, slimmed down Leprechaun, then a hip, slimmed down Easter Bunny, on through the year. As long as it's young, hip and slim - Palm is gonna be there!

RE: clever design
SeldomVisitor @ 1/7/2009 4:09:06 AM # Q
> ...The Treo Pro is alreddy listed as "3G CDMA + EDVO on the new site....

I believe "was" is the correct tense.

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Yup - Claus is gone

SeldomVisitor @ 1/6/2009 3:26:19 AM # Q
That was a real winner of an advertising campaign.

RE: Yup - Claus is gone
whiteasianrose @ 1/6/2009 3:31:44 AM # Q
after december it would seem logical to get rid of the claus ad campaign since it is no longer Christmastime

they should already be out with another ad campaign though i guess they are waiting until after thursday

but honestly, who knows when they will start advertising again?

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Treo Pro: Work - Life, perfectly balanced

Caspian @ 1/6/2009 6:11:29 AM # Q
Sounds like Colligan's fat middle group to me. So, what we will see on Thursday is a new OS to run on the Treo Pro and maybe an announcement of when they will be available on specific carriers. If Palm's big thing is going to be phone based, they had better have the carries signed up with clear release dates before making their announcement.

David
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RE: Treo Pro: Work - Life, perfectly balanced
CFreymarc @ 1/6/2009 12:34:48 PM # Q
It think Palm has been in a use it or get off the pot mode for over a year now. Looking at the site, I get it is a pretty divided company now with different visions and directions. I hope the layoffs last year did some good to put the company in a single direction. The snare drum is playing a drum roll right now. Thursday is either a "ta-da!" or a "wah-wah-wah."
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Nice redesign!

mikecane @ 1/6/2009 6:38:03 AM # Q
That is nice. Gone is that damned popsicle logo that I detested. Now they need to get rid of the browser orange P favicon too. Details, dammit, details!!

RE: Nice redesign!
LiveFaith @ 1/6/2009 8:25:45 AM # Q
I like the Big Orange blob. Reminds me of good ole Rocky Top, but I think it really represents a star in it's final phase as it finally dims and cools into darkness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTj5cJJ-yiU

Pat Horne

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Seems like theyd keep offering the PalmOS Treos until new devices

kfife @ 1/6/2009 8:32:29 AM # Q
...are unveiled.
I'm surprised the PalmOS treos are gone. I considered the centro, but opted for the classic treo for several reasons including a bigger screen. Perhaps they didn't want to 'confuse' the market with lots of very similar choices. Perhaps a good idea. I think palm was historically TERRIBLE about clarity in their offerings! The palm 680 vs the 700 vs the 750 vs the 755. Who'd have thought that the 680 and 755p are fundamentally the same device differing only by network choice. I know a guy who bought a 'higher number' thinking it was newer. Not a bad assumption, but a wrong one.

The centro had a better plan for naming. Centro was centro, even if it was CDMA vs GSM-as it should be. Centro meant PalmOS. And now it appears that all treos are WinMobile. Probably the Nova devices will have a new name for the lineup-Orgazmo or some such.

Also, what happened to the "We'll keep selling PDA-only devices as long as there is demand" thing. I seriosuly doubt that demand dried up on the same day they turned-up their claus-free web site.

Visually nice though.


RE: Seems like theyd keep offering the PalmOS Treos until new devices
SeldomVisitor @ 1/6/2009 8:38:01 AM # Q
I am not familiar with Palm's "in store" marketing of Palm PDAs - blister/bubble pack hanging on a wall?

I'd be surprised if many folks visit palm.com to browse for PDAs to buy - bet the vast majority - if not all - are done in some electronic store on the spur of the moment.

RE: Seems like theyd keep offering the PalmOS Treos until new devices
hkklife @ 1/6/2009 9:15:52 AM # Q
Office Depot, Office Max, and Circuit City ceased offering Palm handhelds in 2006ish. CompUSA is just a shell of its former self so I cannot comment on them.

That leaves Best Buy (now apparently in the process of removing the PDAs on a store-by-store basis) and some Staples locations as the remaining purveyors of Palm handhelds.

And yes, the Z22 & E2 are sold in hanging, blister-packed retail-oriented packages. The TX is still being offered in Palm's traditional square cardboard "cake box" packaging.

My theory is that the PDAs have been out of production for some months now but there is still sufficent inventory in the channel to carry Palm through the next quarter or two. Expect another palm.com "Free Z22 w/ purchase of TX" type blowout pricing and/or a myseriously large quanitty of like-new refurbs appearing on Overstock.com in the coming months...



Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->?

RE: Seems like theyd keep offering the PalmOS Treos until new devices
joad @ 1/6/2009 4:37:45 PM # Q
In other words: if you don't want to sign up for a 2-year cellular contract, your PalmOS PDA options will either be used or extremely expensive pretty soon...

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MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!

mikecane @ 1/6/2009 11:06:27 AM # Q
Colligan, the spotlight is ALL ON YOU, now.

MacWorld keynote was a frikkin bore.

Who cares about a Battlestar Galactica-sized notebook selling for THREE GRAND in this economy?

It's all on YOU YOU YOU now.

Don't screw this up!

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
palmit @ 1/6/2009 11:48:02 AM # Q
The timing is right on for Palm to make some big news.

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
Poopie @ 1/6/2009 12:01:10 PM # Q

Colligan, the spotlight is ALL ON YOU, now.

Cue the gold threaded Carl Yankowski suit!
RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
CFreymarc @ 1/6/2009 12:37:37 PM # Q
If this goes how I think it will, it is not going to be all Colligan speaking. No matter what he did or didn't do on Nova personally, I'm sure Jeff will be there having a handsome share of the limelight. Who knows, Donna may say a few things too. A celebrity appearance or plug would be helpful too.
RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
hkklife @ 1/6/2009 12:40:58 PM # Q
MikeCane, have you seen the new AMD-powered HP 12" "not a netbook" ultraportable? That one has a high likelihood of being my EEE replacement! They can keep their silly external Blu-Ray drive though!

http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/06/hps-12-1-inch-pavilion-dv2-dont-call-it-a-netbook/

If only it was offered with these specs & price in convertible tablet form...sigh.

Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->?

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
SeldomVisitor @ 1/6/2009 12:45:48 PM # Q
> ...No matter what he did or didn't do on Nova personally, I'm sure Jeff
> will be there ...

!!!

Jeff Hawkins said, months ago, that he was a "former exec".

I do not believe he is affiliated with Palm nor has been for months.

In fact, I humbly believe his departure and the hiring of Rubenstein was a condition of EP buying 1/4 of Palm, but have little other than weak anecdotal thoughts to back that up.

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
hkklife @ 1/6/2009 12:49:37 PM # Q
There will be no Jeff, no Donna, no Rob Haitani, and probably just token appearances from Ed. This is Palm in pure survival/circle the wagons mode, plain & simple.

I do, however, have a sneaking suspicion that these hipsters will be on hand handing out autographed Centro brochures and posing for pictures. They should provide more than enough star power for the event:

http://blog.palm.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/01/img_00181.jpg



Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->?

More Nova tidbits/rumors
hkklife @ 1/6/2009 12:56:53 PM # Q
Take this with a huge grain-NAY,a BOULDER!-of salt. But at least we have one (albeit a totally unsubstantiated) semi-detailed bit of info re: the unlock "swipe"

http://technologyexpert.blogspot.com/2009/01/palm-nova-details-leak.html



Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->?

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
LiveFaith @ 1/6/2009 1:09:46 PM # Q
Even if Hawkins were involved, I doubt he shows. His last gig did not up his star power too much.

http://tinyurl.com/7cgexv

Pat Horne

But what about the MacBook Wheel?!!
freakout @ 1/6/2009 1:22:27 PM # Q
RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
mikecane @ 1/6/2009 2:25:37 PM # Q
Don't any of you get the frikkin Numenta emails? Hawkins & Dubinsky have their own gig over there now.

That new hp 12" = FAIL. 12" is too big for a netbook. It's not the first 12" they've had - and I've seen that older one.

Ed Colligan is the Point Man. He'll be the main cheerleader. Maybe someone from OS development and some others from specific app developments will demo. But this will be ALL ED COLLIGAN.

"Breakthrough level of innovation" - if it's not THAT, Colligan, the audience will drag you out of the hall and beat up your ass. Either way, I wish *I* was there to see.

Hey, Ryan! Are YOU going? I don't want to have to look at those snarks at Engadget!

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
SeldomVisitor @ 1/6/2009 2:50:52 PM # Q
> Don't any of you get the frikkin Numenta emails?...

Why in the world would anyone be interested in Numenta emails?


RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
hkklife @ 1/6/2009 2:53:06 PM # Q
Ryan and I will both be there to cover as much as humanly possible. If there's ANY hands-on time to be had with ANYTHING, it'd better expect a fondling thorough enough to make Palm's event look like a bordello filled with geeks.

And 12" is FINE for a not-a-netbook ultraportable. From the initial stills & specs, that HP is the screen size, formfactor & price I'been begging for since the original Toshiba Libretto AGES ago!



Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->?

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
SeldomVisitor @ 1/6/2009 3:26:50 PM # Q
> ... Hawkins ... Colligan ... shows ...

The one person who SHOULD show is Rubenstein - from A to Z, if Nova is going to be shown, this purportedly is his baby.


RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
hkklife @ 1/6/2009 3:33:03 PM # Q
1. But they claim Nova was already well in progress deep in the Palm skunkworks long before Rubinstein's arrival

2. And isn't Rubinstein a "hardware" kinda guy? So far all that we've heard from accurate sources about his Palm involvement are 11th hour tweaks to the Centro in '07 (from the NY Times piece done shortly after the Centro's debut IIRC) and the Treo Pro. And one of the recent articles-SF Gate??-said that Nova will bear "some" stamp of Rubinstein's influence but is not his "baby" per se from what I gather.

3. They don't NEED anyone to really show. Palm has never really had the obsessive cultist thing going on ala Apple or John Romero & John Carmack or John Mayer + RIM etc. A small handful of PR drones showcasing some tantilizing hardware & hands-on time with Nova is all they need to generate a huge buzz!

Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->?

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
Foo Fighter @ 1/6/2009 4:21:06 PM # Q
Colligan, the spotlight is ALL ON YOU, now.

The spotlight is on PALM, not Ed. This really will be the end for the company if their main attraction this week is a 50 year-old CEO in a gold threaded suit. Ah, sweet memories.

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Web Designer,
Tech writer for weblogs inc. @ http://www.tuaw.com

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
Foo Fighter @ 1/6/2009 4:44:38 PM # Q
I will say this about the gas guzzling chevy coupe pulling into CES - it better have teeth. Apple and Google have lured away developers and buyers alike - and let's face it - "PalmOS developers" have long since left for greener pastures. With carriers consolidating on fewer platforms, the sad reality is that it may already be too late. Nova will be starting from a zero sum position - square one. Classic PalmOS apps are obsolete and the fact that Nova will run then will in no way entice. We need NEW APPS. Since developers follow consumers, not the other way around, Palm will face an uphill battle getting its platform off the ground. If their first (and only) handset goes carrier exclusive with a CDMA network Nova will be stillborn, tied to an already shrinking market and limiting its customer base (at least you can UNLOCK a GSM smartphone).

We'll see what happens. The nostalgic side of me wishes the very company that first kindled my love for mobile technology will once again blaze trails and take a leadership position, but then again, having followed this company for the past decade that seems highly unlikely.

Oh well. See you at the craps table. Drinks are on me.



----
Web Designer,
Tech writer for weblogs inc. @ http://www.tuaw.com

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
mikecane @ 1/6/2009 5:40:34 PM # Q
>>>The spotlight is on PALM, not Ed.

No, Ed is the Point Man, as I said. If this is FAIL, he must go. Either a tarted-up Resignation or a plain Get The Fek Outta Here from the Board.

And you've pointed out *excellent* reasons why Palm shouldn't release a damned *phone* first.

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
mikecane @ 1/6/2009 5:44:27 PM # Q
>>>Why in the world would anyone be interested in Numenta emails?

And thus your limited appreciation of intelligence is again revealed.

Next!

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
SeldomVisitor @ 1/7/2009 4:07:56 AM # Q
Ah, you're right. I should worship a born-with-silver-spoon graduate school dropout regardless what he does.

Keep on forgetting that...

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
SeldomVisitor @ 1/7/2009 7:24:55 AM # Q
Jeff Hawkins is no longer on Palm's management page.

[his last SEC filing (for his "Insider stock sales" was made July 1st and noted that he was a "former exec" so it's about time Palm updated their management page to show he wasn't there, huh?]

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
mikecane @ 1/7/2009 9:22:46 AM # Q
>>>Ah, you're right. I should worship a born-with-silver-spoon graduate school dropout regardless what he does.

You'll have it your own way, anyway, but I like to keep up on someone who created *one* field - PDAs - and has the brains to create *another* one.

(Let's just kick that whole Foleo thing under the rug over there, 'k?)

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
SeldomVisitor @ 1/7/2009 9:36:45 AM # Q
> ...and has the brains to create *another* one....

Ahem...you need to study Computer Science a little more.

May I suggest something out of ... say ... the 1970's?

> ...Let's just kick that whole Foleo thing under the rug...

What is the device in front of the CFO?

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
mikecane @ 1/7/2009 2:24:26 PM # Q
If you're comparing what Hawkins is doing to circa 1970s stuff, I have to ask what frikkin kind of tumor is taking up space beneath your skull.

RE: MacWorld Keynote = FAIL. Cue Colligan!
SeldomVisitor @ 1/7/2009 2:51:50 PM # Q
I am comparing what Hawkins is "doing" with circa 1970s stuff.

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Site Overhauled, PDAs keelhauled...

smiley1081 @ 1/7/2009 7:40:28 AM # Q
They are not amongst the products, only in the accessories...

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