Comments on: Real-Time Wireless Media on Palm OS Devices

OnVerge Labs has introduced its flagship application, InfiniFile for the Palm OS Platform. The patent-pending software integrates with the Palm operating system and provides access to virtually unlimited audio, video, programs and data stored on a PC.

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Seems like a real breakthrough!

Strider_mt2k @ 1/25/2005 12:49:23 PM #

Unless I'm missing something here, this is extremely cool stuff, especially for those poor unfortunate souls forced to rely on a device that utilizes the memory card slot to give them wireless capability.

RE: Seems like a real breakthrough!

LiveFaith @ 1/25/2005 1:34:54 PM #

Yeah, this is really neat. But, having to hang around a PC for your content takes a bit outta the term "mobile".

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com

RE: Seems like a real breakthrough!

RhinoSteve @ 1/25/2005 1:40:07 PM #

This is a good idea. However, I for sure will petition to make sure these guys don't get a patent on this.

"Real time" wireless access to files on a PC from a PDA was demo'ed over ten years ago with the early Xerox PARC PDAs and even with a demo running on the first year of the Newton.

Bottom line. You have a good product but there is way too much prior art to try to claim a patent here.

-- Passive Agressive types need not apply.

RE: Seems like a real breakthrough!

potter @ 1/25/2005 2:19:41 PM #

LiveFaith wrote @ 1/25/2005 1:34:54 PM
> Yeah, this is really neat. But, having to hang around a PC for
> your content takes a bit outta the term "mobile".
You are overlooking how far the wireless connection may be.
* Bluetooth to PC (from ~30 meters away).
* WiFi to PC (from ~100 meters away).
* WiFi to local area network to PC (from anywhere in the company/campus).
* WiFi to Internet to local area network to PC (from any WiFi hotspot).
* Bluetooth to cell phone to Internet to local area network to PC (from anywhere you have digital cell service).

Will it work with a treo 650 i.e. no WiFi/BT to server pc?

stupomer @ 1/25/2005 2:34:45 PM #

This would be great if your streaming source was coming in over the cellular connection to the internet. Will the GPRS connection of the new treo 650 be fast enough for this

RE: Will it work with a treo 650 i.e. no WiFi/BT to server pc?

Altema @ 1/25/2005 5:18:09 PM #

Although the connection would work, your bandwidth would limit what types of content you can use. Under perfect nobody-else-using-any-timeslots-and-the-weather-is-clear conditions, you can get up to 170kbps. In the real world it is more like 20 to 50kbps. That would work for 48kbps audio sometimes, but most MP3's are 128kbps or greater. Video is another story, my lowest bitrate video is a black and white film recorded at 90kbps xvid video, PLUS 80kbps audio at the same time. Yeah, I know about MobileTV over cellular, but the framerate is choppy and you need a magnifying glass to see the image. In my own use, I can reliably stream 28kbps audio feeds over cellular, but that is all. This product really calls for a broadband connection if you are going to experiment with quality streaming video.

*sigh* Here I go again...

mikecane @ 1/25/2005 2:40:18 PM #

>>>provides access to virtually unlimited audio, video, programs and data stored on a PC.

Is there a Mac version?

RE: *sigh* Here I go again...

just_little_me @ 1/26/2005 6:26:47 PM #

Is there a C=64 version?

JLM.

RE: *sigh* Here I go again...

mikecane @ 1/26/2005 7:29:00 PM #

Don't be a snark. What you really meant to ask was, "Will it run on the C=64 emulator on my TE?"

Clarity, man!

Won't work on OS6 IMHO

Tamog @ 1/26/2005 10:44:32 AM #

Hi,
actually I was expecting something like this to happen for quite some time now. The PalmOs VFS architecture always allowed third parties to add a VFS slot driver and a File System library-too bad that this is said to be missing in OS6.
BTW, when does somethzing like this come out that supports regular FTP, WEBDAV and Windows SMB shares...

Find out more about the Palm OS in my blog:
http://tamspalm.blogspot.com

RE: Won't work on OS6 IMHO

just_little_me @ 1/26/2005 6:25:01 PM #

D'oh! What were the fools thinking?! Won't work on OS6... oh dear... I guess all those OS6 device owners will be crying today... oh, hang on...

JLM.

Make it portable with WiFi enabled hard-disk

Jempen @ 1/26/2005 9:10:59 PM #

This is nice for when you are in your house or at your work and you have to show a customer a huge database or a video. But for real multimedia solutions you need a WLAN Hard Drive Box like this one http://tinyurl.com/4tmwe from asus. But then you got the power problem and the server application can't run on this baby.

Jelmer

Tungsten T|E

Nice vaporware announcement

FutureTreo950User @ 1/27/2005 7:08:18 PM #

I am intrigued, it's a good idea. Can't wait to try the product. Website says 'coming Jan 25th' the few links on the site are broken. It's the 'flagship product' of a company with no other products. Sounds like they sent out the press release a wee bit too early.

RE: Nice vaporware announcement

The_Voice_of_Reason @ 1/28/2005 3:17:40 AM #

"DEVELOPER NOTE:

A minor bug was discovered during final testing. We are working diligently to resolve it.

Please check back on our new expected release date.

Thank you for your interest in InfiniFile™."

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RE: Nice vaporware announcement

FutureTreo950User @ 3/1/2005 2:10:09 PM #

March 1st, still not available. What do you have to say to that?

RE: Nice vaporware announcement

The_Voice_of_Reason @ 3/2/2005 1:00:47 AM #

March 1st, still not available. What do you have to say to that?

"Sounds like they sent out the press release a wee bit too early."

Maybe they should make a Springboard version of this.

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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.

Is that a similar software can do exactly the same thing ?

Sodono @ 1/28/2005 3:05:36 PM #

I got an email offer from Is Complete. They want me to try out their new software called WiFiGenie. I have a T|T5 but does not have wireless connection to test. It seems can mount a network disk into a memory card. If they do, my justification of buying a SD WiFi could be stronger...

Can someone try it out and let use know ?

WiFiGenie's URL http://www.iscomplete.org/Store/WiFiGenie.asp

HP 4450 -> T|T5 == speedy

RE: Is that a similar software can do exactly the same thing

suiciety @ 2/3/2005 7:50:01 PM #

I downloaded the iscomplete demo of wifile onto my T3.

It seems to have one major problem though in that it detects and connects fine to my laptop & it's shares. The card shows up fine but the T3 is not able to read the card.

It just asks 'Do you want to format the card' and actually never mounts it.

It shows up in Card Info as a network storage with an unknown size and format.

RE: Is that a similar software can do exactly the same thing ?

Rylos @ 4/20/2005 6:06:22 AM #

suiciety

Just wondering if you ever figured out what was causing wifigenie to want to format the folder. I have the same problem I've sent numerous emails to Wifigenie support, at first they seemed to want to help then they quit answering all together. finally they offered my money back or asked that I wait two weeks. They stated that they were having problems with the small packet size and was working on it. Anyway, I use Explorer and really want for this to work. I wasnt sure if it was my setup or WiFiGenie.

TIA

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