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PalmSource, Samsung Electronics, China Unicom NewSpace and Motricity showcased the Samsung SCH-i539 smartphone at an event held today in Beijing, China, to announce the general availability of the Samsung SCH-i539 in retail channels throughout China beginning today.
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What, have Samsung got something against the UK & US?

Masamune @ 5/12/2005 6:26:38 PM # Q
Ok, so they generate more vapourware than any other company for the US and European markets. As soon as China wants a Palm Smartphone, they can't build one quick enough....

RE: What, have Samsung got something against the UK & US?
palmdoc88 @ 5/12/2005 7:29:32 PM # Q
Could it be a problem with the US/UK carriers not supporting the Samsung phones?

T3 & T5 user
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Misspelling

djfusion @ 5/12/2005 10:08:27 PM # Q
CDMA is spelled wrong. Just thought I'd let you know.

Man, this'd do well with CDMA 1900 on Verizon or Sprint here....

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One Awesome Fone

LiveFaith @ 5/13/2005 1:57:43 AM # Q
Wow, this is still an awesome phone, even after the 2 years of SGH-i500, 550 etc Vaporware Torment. No bluetooth cripples it in the US/Euro markets. But, I would like to see that 320x320 @ 2.3". The resolution would be about as dense as a VGA PPC.



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RE: One Awesome Fone
Scott R @ 5/14/2005 12:48:58 AM # Q
So a 2.3" screen is a good thing, huh? Well sir, perhaps I can interest you in my 0.6" VGA screens. Now those are sharp!

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RE: One Awesome Fone
LiveFaith @ 5/14/2005 11:53:25 AM # Q
Scott,

You may have a bit of difficulty shoehorning a Zod HVGA into a flip phone. The point is that the smaller a screen gets, the density and effective clarity should improve. I personally cannot make the leap to the Treo (or this) because I covet my T3s HVGA real estate to much. That said, this little 320x320 should have significantly better screen density than your Zod and approaching that of the Dell or Fuj VGAs

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com

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Samsung: Why have you forsaken me?

The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/13/2005 2:31:21 AM # Q
Damn you to Hell, Samsung. Damn you to Hell.

F***ing tease.


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RE: Samsung: Why have you forsaken me?
Masamune @ 5/13/2005 8:01:33 AM # Q
Seconded. My personal beef with Samsung is over the SGH-i530, which came amazingly close to release. There about 300 made for the Athens Olympic selection commitee or somethibng like that and they really did look the biz. Why they never went into mass production I'll never know but they do occaisionally crop up on eBAy for some £300-400 which is roughly 700 or 800 American...

>:(

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Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...

mikecane @ 5/13/2005 9:21:44 AM # Q
RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
sford @ 5/13/2005 12:36:39 PM # Q
Hm. That thing looks pretty nice.

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000913030286/

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RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
mikecane @ 5/13/2005 1:21:23 PM # Q
To all those feeling The Tug of the Darth Side: Do yourself a favor and pick up a PPC cheeeep on ebay. You'll soon find out just how Dark the Dark Side really is! (I have a cheeep -- and now dead -- GENIO as my own proof.)

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
Surur @ 5/13/2005 1:28:27 PM # Q

Yes, be sure to buy the oldest, largest, cheapest pocketpc with the lousiest battery life and most worn out battery you can get. Only that way can you really see how much ppc's suck these days....

OR

Do yourself a favour and buy the Loox 720 (with free upgrade to Mageneto in a few months), and forget forever about the POS devices. (thats Pile Of ...)

http://www.clieuk.co.uk/loox720.shtml
http://www.clieuk.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=503

Surur

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
ackmondual @ 5/13/2005 2:54:52 PM # Q
PPC has their own match to the pOS tr650, unless the existing PPC Phone Editions can be counted. Is this phone VGA? If so, then the only thing left is to bring the price down lower than the tr650 to drag the rest of the camp to PPC
RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
mikecane @ 5/13/2005 3:22:48 PM # Q
Enjoy that Loox. It'll soon be an orphan just like the ones from Toshiba! Better it had never existed like the Gateway PPC!

ack --> R u drunk?! VGA in an SSS (Small Square Screen)?

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
Foo Fighter @ 5/13/2005 3:32:44 PM # Q
Mike, you were running an OLD Pocket PC device and comparing it to current POS offerings? That's hardly a fair comparison.

Try using an Axim X50v or something more current. Right now the only thing holding me back from buying a Treo 650 is one of these HP WinMob gadgets. If they work well, which isn't a given considering HP's track record, then I might just get one. If not, it's off to Treo land I go.

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RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
Foo Fighter @ 5/13/2005 3:35:31 PM # Q
As a footnote... it amazes me when the Palm enthusiast community acts as though this were 2001, still living in a time when Pocket PC was some fringe mobile platform struggling to gain a toehold in the market. I don't know whether you folks are aware of this or not, but while you were living under a rock, the tables turned. Windows Mobile now outsells PalmOS *gasp*. Well, depending on whose market studies you choose to vest your confidence in anyway. Even the more conservative studies put WM and POS on par with one another, so it's safe to say that WM is growing as POS has declined over the years.

And nobody is holding a gun to consumer's heads you know? Believe it or not, people are actually buying Pocket PCs of their own accord. Aside from irate PalmOS fans and the usual partisan politics, I rarely hear such slander being flung by PPC owners in the general public. In fact, most folks I know that actually use such a device are quite happy with their choice. A recent study by Handango showed WM users having the most "satisfaction" with their device. Guess all those HotSync issues and Fatal Exception errors are starting to take their toll on PalmOS's once vaunted, and now mythical, rock solid reliability.

Until recently I owned an Aximx X50v, which I quite happily carried alongside my T5 and Zodiac. Some days I loved it, other days I wanted to toss it off a bridge (not the same bridge referenced by RhinoSteve of course). However, that pretty much mirrors my experience with the T5 and Zodiac. In fact, to be completely honest with you...I have had FAR MORE problems in recent years with my POS devices than I have with WinMob. The Treo 650 I was testing crashed if I so much as looked at it funny. VersaMail constantly reset the damn thing, and I spent more time staring at the boot up screen than my Address book! Often right in the middle of an important email, or document I was working on, the stupid thing would lock. Forcing me to reset and start over. HotSync crashes, Fata Exceptions errors, incompatible apps, file conversion hell, the list goes on.

POS still gets the gold star as my platform of choice, it's what I use every day. But I'm not blind to the fact that this platform is an old draft horse that's long in the tooth and being passed by other thoroughbreds on the track.


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RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
mikecane @ 5/13/2005 3:40:54 PM # Q
Tell me what are the HUGE differences in the PIMs between the GENIO and that latest Axim? *NONE*. Case closed.

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
dstrauss @ 5/13/2005 6:04:23 PM # Q
I'm no PPC fan, but used an Axim x50v for two months between the Sprint and Cingular version of the Treo 650, and I'd have to say it was head and shoulders better than my old Audiovox (Genio knock-off) and except for size, even better than my HP 1915. Still, I wouldn't swap any PPC for the Treo 650.

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
Foo Fighter @ 5/13/2005 6:19:41 PM # Q
>> "Still, I wouldn't swap any PPC for the Treo 650."

Ditto. Treo is one product PalmOne got right...in a BIG way. The only thing holding me back is the upcoming WinMob Treo, coming to a methadone clinic near you. ;-)

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RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
mikecane @ 5/13/2005 6:21:42 PM # Q
To me, the PIMs matter. There is no huge difference between the GENIO PIMs and the latest VGAed Axim PIMs. I know: I tried out the PIMs on that hp hx. Same crap, different screen res. Anything other than the PIMs is just icing on a stale, moldy cake.

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
Surur @ 5/13/2005 8:27:34 PM # Q

If small handheld computers were all about PIM's maybe Palm would still be on top. It looks like people want more.

In a recent poll on PPCT only 22% used the built-in PIM, while 72% used third party replacements. Clearly MS only builds the OS, and the rest is amply supplied by 3rd parties. People seems satisfied with this.

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=40013

Surur

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
mikecane @ 5/13/2005 9:10:15 PM # Q
I don't give a damn what polls say. I'm talking about what *I* need. Now shut up.

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
AdamaDBrown @ 5/14/2005 12:26:07 AM # Q
Foo, well said. Applause. And for future reference, I highly recommend the numbers from Canalys. They ignore the question of what is a handheld versus what is a smartphone, and group models by OS.

Mike, what do you find so apalling about the PIM apps? It's basic PIM. If you don't like the interface, try a different app. Or--and here's an idea--if the ONLY thing you care about is PIM, why aren't you using a Zire?

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
wannitnow @ 5/14/2005 1:11:21 AM # Q
The PIM is MUCH better in Palm, but if PIM is all I use then I wouldn't bother upgrading from my Palm III! PDA can and should do a lot more than that now (if I was to spend money on it anyway) - and PPC is better at it...

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
LiveFaith @ 5/14/2005 12:03:41 PM # Q
I hate to water down such a gentlemenly battle here, but the original point was about the DELAY of the HP device I believe. That HP looks and sounds very attractive. In fact, the "datcentric" form factor is more attractive to me personally that the "fonecentric" Treos. The problem with HP is that they released that much ballyhood 6300 and it was an absolute disaster! A US carrier actually dumped it b/c of the tech support nightmare it caused.

This new one is getting the royal promotional treatment as well, but just keeps getting delayed. Now all the way till November! It'll be a dinosaur as a Treo 650 comparison by then. IMO, Compaq had the best end-user hardware design team of all, until HP stole them away. Unfortunately it looks like the failed Jornada group is still in power over there.

To another poster: This HP communicator cannot be VGA. It is a square screen. VGA, HVGA & QVGA are all rectangular rez. This device will actually be 240x240 ... not very impressive. Also, It is not going to work with a host of WM/PPC QVGA/VGA software designed for every other device ever released. I wouldn't wanna be an early adopter.

Surur: Polls on geek sites like this don't represent the real world. That says 2 things. #1 Geeks are far more likely to load 3rd party apps #2 WM PIMs stink so bad that most have to $pend more to correct. One 'real' survey about a year ago revealed that most PDA users did not even realize they could download more 3rd party apps. I'm not against you, but I'm just saying that geeks like us don't really pay the bills down at corp HQ.

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Foo: Man! And I thot I was a bit geeky to even use a PDA in public. Do you have a belt clip/holster for each or do you use a Batman toolbelt? "Let's see now, is that list in Tasks, Memos, MS-Word, on the TT5, the Zod or the X50? :-D

Finally: The "Jornada" group succeeded again in creating UGLY. How can they keep doing this?

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RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
Surur @ 5/14/2005 2:18:32 PM # Q

LiveFaith

Few people would disagree with you about most things you said.

Having said that, at least one of the reasons for the delay of this ppcphone is to get the new OS, which carry a host of ppcphone based improvements, such as one handed navigation. Previously HP was planning to release it with wm2003se, which would have been a disaster. The new OS will put it on a more equal footing with the Treo 650.

240x240 IS a poor resolution, and there is a lot of gnashing of teeth at HP's stupidity over at PPCthoughts. Having said that, most software except games should be functional at that resolution (with some scrolling possibly) since this is as much as it would normally lose with the on screen keyboard, which this device clearly does not need.

I like the form factor of this device, and as I used to have a HP 568 , so I clearly have nothing against HP's industrial design. I hated the Compaq's curves, and returned the one I tried the day after I bought it. Give me a HP 568 with a proper flip cover and dual slots any day over a flashy Compaq with only one slot. Of course its well know that shiny things sell over function, which may be HP's downfall :( My current PPC also has very conservative styling vs the Dell X50v's quirky design.

Regarding third party software. Its true that many people don't add third party software, but I hazard to say that on the ppc platform most people install added software, and the recent Handango survey found ppc users were very happy with the software and devices. Its quite possible that the people who are inclined to add software gravitate over to PPC, while the more timid users buy a Palm.

The HP 6300 series was a disaster with an underpowered processor, ugly add on keyboard, antenna, and an OS a generation behind the competition. This device will be a much better competitor.

Surur

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
Foo Fighter @ 5/14/2005 2:42:07 PM # Q
"Foo: Man! And I thot I was a bit geeky to even use a PDA in public. Do you have a belt clip/holster for each or do you use a Batman toolbelt? "Let's see now, is that list in Tasks, Memos, MS-Word, on the TT5, the Zod or the X50? :-D"

Never would I be caught dead wearing a belt-clip or other impediment. I may be a geek, but I'm a geek with a sense of style! Besides, the Axim would clash with my purse. ;-)

I sold the Axim, don't use the Zodiac (it's sitting here collecting dust), and I rarely carry the T5. In fact these days I rarely feel the urge to lug around a PDA at all, which is why I find myself lured by the Siren song of Smartphones. The Treo 650 I just finished reviewing nearly had me whipping out my credit card, especially with the Press discount P1 offers. Truly awesome piece of hardware, despite instability issues.

But I'm still hesitant to go in this direction because I want to make sure I get the features I desire in a form factor and style I feel comfortable with. There are so many great new Smartphones hitting the market over the next few months it makes my head spin. I should be receiving an iMate JAM for review very soon, so I'll have yet another gadget to pacify my geeky needs.

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RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
mikecane @ 5/14/2005 4:46:50 PM # Q
>>>240x240 IS a poor resolution, and there is a lot of gnashing of teeth at HP's stupidity over at PPCthoughts.

What? They aren't all rah-rah-ing over how it's better than 160x160? And it'd be like them to blame *hp* -- when it's *MS* that permits that screen res. PPCT's motto: Don't Bite the Same Ass You Kiss.

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
Surur @ 5/14/2005 6:12:08 PM # Q

Well 480x480 is also allowable under wm2003se, so yes, its entirely HP's choice which resolution to implement. The whole point of WM 2003se was to increase the form-factor options available to OEM's. WM 5 caries this forward.

This will mean some quirky devices from MS's 40+ licensees, but then hopefully there will be less accusations of cookie-cutter ppc's, and a bigger chance of making a hit device.

Surur

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
mikecane @ 5/14/2005 7:21:04 PM # Q
You mean like Gateway's hit PPC? Or Toshiba's? Or Olivetti's? (Did you forget Olivetti already?) Hey, how about what a smash hit that Philips Nino was? Not to mention that Everex Freestyle (which I also have...).

The only really exciting PPC was the original hp 19xx (1910?). Then those dopes at hp screwed up that gorgeous precedent-setting screen with the yellow-tinged sequels.

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
Surur @ 5/14/2005 8:12:55 PM # Q

My point is simply that with greater diversity more tastes and needs are catered for.

Surur

How many PalmOS licensees are still developing products?
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/14/2005 8:36:30 PM # Q
Riddle me this, Cane: Besides pa1mOne is ANYONE selling PalmOS hardware in anything other than niche quantities? Tapwave sold what, 30,000 Zodiacs? Garmin dumped PalmOS and Samsung is no longer a player. What's left? AlphaSmart and its primitive PalmOS 4 Dana? W T F?

Don't make fun of PPC when PalmOS looking a hell of a lot worse.

P.S. : hackbod has left the building. You heard it here first. Tough TTs. Sucker.


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RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
AdamaDBrown @ 5/15/2005 1:15:25 AM # Q
Mike, Gateway's PocketPC was a non-starter because it offered vastly inferior and overpriced hardware. I don't think it's shocking that this got shot down fast, and it seems fanboyish of you to claim that it's somehow a result of the platform. Toshiba had a few good hits, but they pissed off the power users and subsequently had their market share eaten by Dell. It's a vicious market, and they didn't play well. And despite being steeped in handhelds for the last several years, I have no idea whatsoever who or what Olivetti is besides being a mobile carrier in Italy. But seriously, do you want to compare dead PocketPC licensees to dead Palm licensees?

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
Masamune @ 5/15/2005 5:04:51 AM # Q
When did hackbod leave and how do you know? Besides, while even I am having doubts about Tapwave's future (and that's saying something) I am looking forward to the LifeDrive. Even if its not running Cobalt, it could still trun around Palm's fortunes....

Returning to the original topic, Samsung can release a phone, except in the UK and US. Palm's not the only smartphone to have a rough time over this - the D700 series was a great line of Symbian smartphones promised by Samsung but failed to appear.

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
mikecane @ 5/15/2005 12:12:03 PM # Q
My God! If Tapwave sold only 30,000, they're in worse shape than I ever imagined. I had hoped they had at least come close to 100K.

Hey, where's Nagel and his Eleven Licensees to save the day? Right: Who's gonna start the betting pool for this?

PPC weenies: Fek off. I'm through posting to you dweebs.

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
AdamaDBrown @ 5/15/2005 1:32:25 PM # Q
Mike, I doubt it. You seem to live for trashing PocketPC more than anyone else here cares about defending it. And way to paint up anyone engaging in rational dialog as a "PPC weenie." Very Rove of you.

VoR, where are you getting those numbers? I don't recall having seen any sales data for Tapwave.

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
rsc1000 @ 5/16/2005 9:54:33 AM # Q
>>"Garmin dumped PalmOS "

uhhh - when?

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
mikecane @ 5/16/2005 10:20:35 AM # Q
Battlestar Galactica Commander Wannabe: Shut up, you PPC weenie.

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/16/2005 12:10:45 PM # Q
VoR, where are you getting those numbers? I don't recall having seen any sales data for Tapwave.

Pulled 'em outta my a$$. That and what a friend working for one of Tapwave's suppliers told me. Sales at CompUSA have been beyond pathetic and a local manager told me they're going to be cleared out pretty soon. Once the Zodiac 2 reaches $199 I'll definitely pick one up as a souvenir. The Zodiacs were great hardware for the price - better than ANYTHING Palm is selling now - inluding the DeathDrive. If Tapwave had just put out the same Zod 2 specs in a Tungsten E form factor they would have done OK. Peng just wouldn't listen. Oh well.

>>"Garmin dumped PalmOS "

uhhh - when?

A few months ago from the scuttlebutt I've heard. There was a replacement model that was supposed to come out this summer, but it's apparently been cancelled.

Battlestar Galactica Commander Wannabe: Shut up, you PPC weenie.

Good Lord! Cane, you're on a roll. The medication must be working...



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Press release: CUPERTINO, California — February 11, 2005 — Apple® announced today that Steve Jobs will begin selling his own feces to Apple Cultists beginning March 1. Apple's new iPoo™ lineup is expected to easily surpass the iPod shuffle as the company's most popular product. Yes, Apple Cultists can already easily create their own iPoo™, but feces didn't seem cool until Jobs told them it was cool. Remember, kids: the ONLY cool feces is Jobs' highly individualistic, rebellious iPoo™ (coming soon in six different colors/flavors, including the red [hematochezia] and black [melena] U2 GI bleed model)

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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.
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Say hello to my little friend...

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
Foo Fighter @ 5/16/2005 12:34:55 PM # Q
"better than ANYTHING Palm is selling now - inluding the DeathDrive"

Hey, I like that name. It has marketing synergy with the upcoming Star Wars film. By God there's a revenue opportunity in there somewhere.

"Tap, you must. Search your feelings...using the Find function."

"If only you knew the power of the LifeDrive".

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RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
Surur @ 5/16/2005 1:03:16 PM # Q

Surur

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
mikecane @ 5/16/2005 1:09:02 PM # Q
Feh. Amateurs.

LifeSaber.

Palm DeathDrive (Lucas Edition™)
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/16/2005 1:51:03 PM # Q
Luuuuuuuuke... I'm your FATHER!


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Press release: CUPERTINO, California — February 11, 2005 — Apple® announced today that Steve Jobs will begin selling his own feces to Apple Cultists beginning March 1. Apple's new iPoo™ lineup is expected to easily surpass the iPod shuffle as the company's most popular product. Yes, Apple Cultists can already easily create their own iPoo™, but feces didn't seem cool until Jobs told them it was cool. Remember, kids: the ONLY cool feces is Jobs' highly individualistic, rebellious iPoo™ (coming soon in six different colors/flavors, including the red [hematochezia] and black [melena] U2 GI bleed model)

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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.
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Say hello to my little friend...

RE: Unlike hp, Samsung can *release* a phone...
ackmondual @ 5/17/2005 3:19:58 PM # Q
by mikecane
What? They aren't all rah-rah-ing over how it's better than 160x160? And it'd be like them to blame *hp* -- when it's *MS* that permits that screen res. PPCT's motto: Don't Bite the Same Ass You Kiss.

meh, QVGA seems to be the set standard for PPC as far as ppl are concerned

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by VoR
Pulled 'em outta my a$$. That and what a friend working for one of Tapwave's suppliers told me. Sales at CompUSA have been beyond pathetic and a local manager told me they're going to be cleared out pretty soon. Once the Zodiac 2 reaches $199 I'll definitely pick one up as a souvenir. The Zodiacs were great hardware for the price - better than ANYTHING Palm is selling now - inluding the DeathDrive. If Tapwave had just put out the same Zod 2 specs in a Tungsten E form factor they would have done OK. Peng just wouldn't listen. Oh well.

Out of curiosity, when do you suppose that will be? Last i checked, the zod1 is alr $200. Zod2 at $265.

As far as putting a zod in a T|E form factor, NO NO NO! NO! The zods are supposed to be mobile gaming machines as well. That's how they can get their landscape orientation. Granted their gaming scenario isn't too good, and some people may have been turned off by how it looks like a GBA, but truly, the fact that their distribution/marketing channels sucked is what killed them. They could go under, show up on the news, and no1 still would ever heard of them :(

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64 MB ROM?

hbuchtel @ 5/16/2005 12:44:31 AM # Q
Does anybody know why it has 64 MB ROM? It sounds like far more then could be possibly be used by the system . . .

Could it be a way of backing up the RAM?

Henry

RE: 64 MB ROM?
mikecane @ 5/16/2005 10:21:34 AM # Q
Some of the extra space is no doubt due to the Chinese characters, which take up more bytes than the languages we are most familiar with.

RE: 64 MB ROM?
hbuchtel @ 5/17/2005 12:14:12 AM # Q
I don't think the chinese characters could be using that much, if you buy a palm in China (any model) it comes with CJKOS (about 2-3 MB) and Penpower (<1MB) installed in ROM.

But this is only for Palm Hardware, perhaps Samsung has chosen another way to include Chinese.

RE: 64 MB ROM?
ackmondual @ 5/17/2005 3:27:07 PM # Q
hmmm, I use chineseOS and that could be various sizes since it's customizable. Adding in more interfaces (roman ping ying, zhu ing fu hao, and 4 more i've never seen) does increase the size, but not much more so..... say 55KB to 150KB each.

There's also the res of the characters. If you have hi-res, use the hi-res characters that'll look MUCH sharper. And then some ppl elect to have Simplified and Traditional. I use hi-res traditional and the pdb for that eats up 1.65MB. Adding simplified may eat up another 1.5MB or so.

Perhaps Samsung is doing other things with it we don't kno of.

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