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More info: **Pocket Tunes is NOT the Deluxe version that streams w/ WiFi **$50 aluminum harcase with rubber grip is bad to the bone ** I wonder if this is literally true or marketing speak for the screen going off? ** Music "multi-tasking" allows volume and track changes w/out leaving the present app. ** 64MB NVFS ... they didn't skimp ** Still packing it all in 16MB ROM ... amazing. ** Your data stays safe even on on a hard-reset! ** Optical illusion. It sure looks thicker than 3/4", but maybe being a thinner width than even a T3 makes that appear so? Should fit nicely in hand, but a little long. ** The back of the device is very elegant! But where are all the UL logos etc? ** Hard resets on the bottom next to the Athena. Large enough for stylus tip. Somebody's listened! Then again Palms never crash, so it's moot. :-o ** Anyone seen the "protective sleeve"? Surely it's not that little Zire baggie that doubles as a marble carryer.
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** Screen = to the new FANTASTIC T|E2 screen quality. Wowzers. ** Palmaddcit says it fits great in the hand. Most have not noticed it's thin width, making for 1 handed comfort.
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I like the "landscape mode button". But I wonder if accidental presses reaching for it in your pocket will be an annoyance. Seems to stick out a little. Also, what does the 'hold' button do? (little lock symbol on the power). Is this to lock hardware buttons? If so - nice fix. RE: WOOOOOOHOOOOO
Sorry, answered my own question by reading review. Power button is a slider which slides to a hold position locking the unit in its current state against any hardward/screen input. Not exactly what I was thinking - potential battery drainer. RE: WOOOOOOHOOOOO
Correction: Fanboy Sammy spoke as if it had the E2 type screen, but AdamaDBrown says its about like the T5. "The screen is a 16 bit type, rather than the richer 18 bit screen in the E2." ... not so hot when setting next to an e@ or VGA Winmobster at CC. RE: WOOOOOOHOOOOOAdamaDBrown @ 5/18/2005 4:09:55 AM #
Just a quick note, I'm pretty sure that the 64 MB (actually 65.2 MB) of "program memory" is NOT NVFS, but rather space on the hard drive. RE: WOOOOOOHOOOOO
>>>** Music "multi-tasking" allows volume and track changes w/out leaving the present app. This is a nice feaute for audiofiles. Amazing too how many PPC folks still believe Palm OS can only do 1 thing at a time. This is nothing new. It has been a feature of PTunes. You swipe the stylus to call up a "console" -- similar to what we used to be able to do with Hacks/DAs. RE: WOOOOOOHOOOOO
AdamA, I keep hearing this "partition" scam is probably true. PalmOne has very little shame to advertise 64MB of memory. Your review and others seem to indicate this based on the sluggishness of even checking the clock button on the status bar ... 3 seconds!!! The Zen of Palm has been dead for a while now, but partitioning "memory" onto the HDD is like kicking over the tombstone! I feared this after seeign the 64MB iteration on the T5. It's nothing more than a partition on the :-( I'm gonna be a little safer carrying my T3 I guess. RE: WOOOOOOHOOOOO
Overpriced and late. This could have been out a year ago. And knock the price down to $400.00 RE: WOOOOOOHOOOOO
Quote: "PalmOne has very little shame to advertise 64MB of memory." Yes, but notice how they are conveniently avoiding saying anything official about the RAM. That is a red flag that they are trying to pull one over on us. Also, the fact that the HD is erased after a hard reset indicates that the 64 MB is likely a HD partition. RE: WOOOOOOHOOOOO
I was actually being polite. I really meant they "have NO shame" by covering the partition issue and calling it memory. I agree totally with you. Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com RE: WOOOOOOHOOOOO
I tend to find it frustrating however that PalmOne is onto it's 3rd bundled browser and still we get this comparison. http://www.bargainpda.com/assets/3879.jpg What good is a nice huge screen when the fonts are still huge as well... Can we finally put OS5 to bed and move on to OS6/7/8 with TTF support and start making better use of the pixels... RE: WOOOOOOHOOOOO
Switching to the small font in Blazer gives the display considerably more information while still remaining readable. Just tap on the menu and choose Options/Font. I'm surprised they didn't do that in the review. RE: WOOOOOOHOOOOO
Ben, AdamDBrown is a PPC user, so you may want to take that info into consideration. Reviews are essentially opinions of the writers. I am not saying that Adam's review is not accurate, simply that it may be biased to a certain degree. It is the same with Sammy of Palmaddict's review. Some may say that Adam's review is too negative, while others may think that Sammy's review is too positive. The only review that counts is the eventual buyer's opinion. Adama overtly critical, or just accurate?
At least AdamA's review provides some numbers, while Sammy's review only provides superlatives. Infosync's review confirms AdamA's poor battery life claims, and Forbes confirms the stuttering and pauses. It looks like Sammy's review is the one that lacks credibility. But that was obvious from the start. Fantastic! Surur RE: WOOOOOOHOOOOO
"At least AdamA's review provides some numbers, while Sammy's review only provides superlatives. Infosync's review confirms AdamA's poor battery life claims, and Forbes confirms the stuttering and pauses. It looks like Sammy's review is the one that lacks credibility. But that was obvious from the start. Fantastic!" Surur, how conveniently of you to disregard other reviews such as MobileTechReview, whose battery test number are different from Adam’s and are more in LD's favor. http://www.mobiletechreview.com/palmone-LifeDrive.htm Shame on you!!! And I never said that Adam's review lacked credibility....just biased, perhaps. As for Sammy's review, he is a user, not a tech person. He gave a review from a layperson's perspectvie. Granted that his writing is not the greatest and he didn't have any data, but his opinion is just as credible as Adam's and maybe as biased as Adam's as well. As I said previously, it is the eventual buyer's review that really counts, not your or mine or anybody else's. No REAL RAM™? Oh Noooooo!The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/21/2005 5:57:27 PM #
The LifeDrive's lack of REAL RAM™ has made a complete mess of this PDA. That kind of design flaw should have never made it past Day 1 of the prototyping. There are simply ZERO excuses for this severity of fundamental design error. ZERO.
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 Way too big...
I still like the form factor of the T|T T|T2 and T|T3. I really thought Palm was onto something with that form factor. A 4GB hard drive just is not enough space _IF_ you are willing to sacrifice size. There are now 4 and 8GB Compact Flash cards on the market. I still feel that a nice T|T3 form factor with 1GB internal memory with WiFi and Bluetooth would be awesome. When you start getting this big, I would consider an iPod and/or a PSP instead. Or perhaps even an OQO! RE: Way too big...
Care to show me the PDA functionality of a PSP or an iPod? Apples. Oranges. RE: Way too big...
If you look at the justification for the increased storage space, it is for movies, photos and music, not true PDA 'stuff'. A nice tight PDA for just PDA 'stuff' is what I am looking for. The new LifeDrive challenges the PSP and the iPod in the entertainment aspects of the LifeDrive features. And for the entertainment aspects of mobile devices, I would prefer an iPod and/or a PSP depending on my focus. Besides, soon the PSP will be able to surf the internet (hack reported on slashdot), and there is a rumor of Sony releasing 'office' applications (perhaps just read only viewers). iPods do have a read only calendar, contacts and to-dos, and there are several third party applications that will sink RSS and various other text to the iPods notes. Each device has a different focus, and attempts to cross the others boundary. For me the 'P' is PDA is all about size and the 'A' in PDA is all about business, not games, audio, video and images. RE: Way too big...
iPod? PSP? what in the world.....? Please, this is the nicest PDA any company has ever come up with. As much as I love the iPod, which I have 3, they will in no way replace the functionality of this baby. As I have said before, there just isnt anyway to make some people happy, no matter what you do. When there was no WiFi, people complained, when there was little memory, people complained, now Palm has put in everything you can dream of, the absolute PDA I have been dreaming of for many many years, and now its a "Brick" or doesnt have enough memory. I dont know!!!! You go right ahead and use an iPod or PSP. I guess youre just wanting something to play music or play games with. For me, this is the best computer away from my desktop. RE: Way too big...
I have a 60GB iPod Photo and love it. I use it to play music, show photos, off load photos in the field from my cameras, and as an external hard drive at home and on the road. I have a T|T and love it just as much (replaced my Palm V). It goes with me everywhere and helps me in almost everything. The size and ruggedness is perfect. I can even send files directly to my PowerBook using bluetooth without having to sync. I just don't see what a 4GB drive gets you in a PDA, its too small to be a real audio, video image repository, and it makes the LifeDrive too big to be a truly personal device. Especially when you could probably use a CF slot and used a new 8GB high performance CF card instead. And still keep the design small and tight. RE: Way too big...
I've gotta disagree with you on form factor. Personally I find the look of this thing very appealing (even more so than my T3). As for size, these days mobile devices are not shrinking. Looks like Palm has worked out that in today's technology market 'bigger is better'. That's why mobile phones are getting bigger with bigger screens and more features (remember Zoolander's phone? Small WAS better but not any more). I agree that I'd prefer to see something slimmer for practical reasons. However, there is something 'ipodish' about this design that makes it look pretty cool. by ggeoffreackmondual @ 5/18/2005 3:10:23 AM #
I have a 60GB iPod Photo and love it. I use it to play music, show photos, off load photos in the field from my cameras, and as an external hard drive at home and on the road. How much did u get it for? No critics, just curious. . I just don't see what a 4GB drive gets you in a PDA, its too small to be a real audio, video image repository, and it makes the LifeDrive too big to be a truly personal device. Especially when you could probably use a CF slot and used a new 8GB high performance CF card instead. And still keep the design small and tight. That's the idea with audio. Ppl who want "real audio" get an ipod. All others are content with 1GB to 3GB of music. [signature1] RE: Way too big...
The cheapest 4GB Cf card (not microdrive) is $259. This should halve in the next year, and certainly be around $200 in the next 6 months. Also it seems P1's battery life claims were widely overblown. 4 hours playing music with the screen off, and 104 minutes playing video of the microdrive. I wonder where the three days with dual wireless on comes from. Is it when the OS automatically switches if off after 10 minutes? http://www.bargainpda.com/default.asp?newsID=2525&review=palmOne+LifeDrive Surur RE: Way too big...
>>I have a 60GB iPod Photo and love it. I use it to play music, show photos, off load photos in the field from my cameras, and as an external hard drive at home and on the road. >How much did u get it for? No critics, just curious. Same MSRP as anyone else hwo purchased directly from an Apple Retail Store the first day it was available. RE: Way too big...
CNET actually indicates the battery life is significantly better than posted on some other websites: Battery life was decent. In CNET Labs' tests, playing a looped MP3 playlist, the device petered out after 6 hours, 40 minutes--not bad as far as PDAs goes but below par compared to today's microdrive MP3 players, which average about 15 hours of battery life. We repeated the same test with a video using Kinoma Player and the LifeDrive lasted for 5 hours, 15 minutes. http://reviews.cnet.com/PalmOne_LifeDrive/4505-3127_7-31383012-5.html?tag=top And they rated it very good. RE: Way too big...
See, I am not so crazy. I have heard (and read) or several individuals looking at the LifeDrive as a replacement for their iPod. Looking at the video capabilities, the PSP is the next most popular choice to replace. It is not quite so apples and oranges anymore. A nice little $199 iPod Mini 4GB, and a $129 Zire 31 along with a $249 PSP for a total of $577 will provide the absolute best of everything you need. Convergence comes at a price. Less than stellar video (screen resolution), shorter battery life when listening to audio, and slow performance (hard drive partition used for RAM). A nice Tungsten slider format with 1GB of fast memory, updated processor, bluetooth, and the 320x480 screen. Perhaps a little tighter, perhaps a little thinner, and perhaps a little lighter. Keep is small, keep it simple, keep upgrading the specs of the original design. For those of you seriously considering this device, at least check out the Archos product line (especially their PMA400) and of course the OQO. RE: Way too big...
>>>A nice little $199 iPod Mini 4GB, and a $129 Zire 31 along with a $249 PSP for a total of $577 will provide the absolute best of everything you need. Convergence comes at a price. Less than stellar video (screen resolution), shorter battery life when listening to audio, and slow performance (hard drive partition used for RAM). What rubbish. First, enjoy the stares from civilians as you strut around in your gorky Scott eVest or Batman utility belt. Second, no lag time with that PSP UMD? Riiiight. Third, check the screen specs between that PSP vs the LD and then come back and clarify *which* has the "less than stellar video [screen resolution]." RE: Way too big...
The comparison was not based on specs, but based on holding a PSP and holding a T5. Granted the LiveDrive may have a different screen, so I will have to hold off final judgement until that time. But I did feel that the PSP had an impressive screen compared to that of the T5. Besides, 480/16*9=270 not 320. The screen on the PSP is sharp! RE: Way too big...ackmondual @ 5/20/2005 11:31:23 PM #
See, I am not so crazy. I have heard (and read) or several individuals looking at the LifeDrive as a replacement for their iPod. Looking at the video capabilities, the PSP is the next most popular choice to replace. It is not quite so apples and oranges anymore. A nice little $199 iPod Mini 4GB, and a $129 Zire 31 along with a $249 PSP for a total of $577 will provide the absolute best of everything you need. Convergence comes at a price. Less than stellar video (screen resolution), shorter battery life when listening to audio, and slow performance (hard drive partition used for RAM). I'm with Mikecane on this. Simply b/c i prefer just to carry around one device rather than 3 or 4. I only have so many pockets and clip on cases. I've got a PDA that covers music, video, photos, PIMs, games, Office, utilities, and reference. Another that is my cellphone. Some ppl will want the best of all departments while others want the convenience of convergence And I would hardly call a z31 the best at PDA. Not b/c it isn't some $500 LD, but IMHO, the screen looks ugly. May be b/c im used to hi-res screens. I'd say upgrade the z31 to at least a T|E. MSRP is $200, but a new T|E for $160 isn't too far out if bought elsewhere, which bumps us to $610 or so RE: Way too big...
In that case, the best combination that the current market has to offer is the Palm Treo 650 with the Archos PM400 (possibly add a Canon Digital Elph Powershot). Seriously, take a look at what Archos has to offer. Palm's best convergence device is the Treo, not the LifeDrive. So if convergence is truly the goal, the LifeDrive is not the answer. I truly do not feel that Palm delivered with this one, and that early adopters will be less than happy with their purchase. But if you replace your $500 PDA once a year anyway, go ahead and give this one a run for the money. BTW, I was also very disappointed with the T5, I did not feel that it delivered the truly best of breed for a stand alone (non-convergence) PDA. RE: Way too big...
I haven't seen a live P2P yet (just units in windows), so I'm going by the specs and what reviews I've read. Even so, just look at the *size* of both of them. If anything deserves to be called a brick, it's the P2P. That might be a fine size for a game unit, but no way could that be carried in my shirt pocket like a PDA. As for video, I'd rather not have to pay *twice* for video -- once for DVD and then for UMD. With a PDA, I can have the legal DVD and either "illegally" rip it or seek the DiVXed AVI or MPEG rip of it on a P2P net (sneering at the MPAA!). As for music exclusively, an iPod is still the best choice. RE: Way too big...
Given the battery life, and the task of converting video onto the LifeDrive, I just do not see people using it as a movie player. The novelty will wear off after the first week or two for the majority of LifeDrive owners. Attempts will be made to manage a music library on the LifeDrive, but I seriously doubt that over the long haul, many true music enthusiasts with more than 4GB of music will bother to keep managing their LifeDrive, and it will soon no longer be their primary music device, they will drag back out their iPods. So what will be left for the average LifeDrive owner? Just the core PDA capabilities, and possibly use as an external drive (is that possible)?
The original justification for bringing the PSP into the mix was that I feel that the same market that is willing to pay $500 for a LifeDrive is also part of the market that is willing to pay $250 for a PSP. This cross over market will be comparing the two devices. This same market most likely already has an iPod, and is thinking that they may be able to leave it at home after purchasing the LifeDrive.
Best Palm Yet plus suggestions
This is definitely the best palm yet and will plan on buying one. However, I think Palm should ditch the 4GB Microdrive and just give give us a compact flash slot. Is that so hard Palm? Are you guys listening? They probably could knock $50 - $100 off the price if they did that. Imagine how many more of them they could sell at a lower price? It makes me wonder if Palm is cheating and has just integrated a Compact Flash card inside the unit to give us the 4GB Microdrive. RE: Best Palm Yet plus suggestions
I was going to buy a Treo 650, but this thing looks absolutely killer. Now what am I to do??? Wait a second: Did I just say that I had to CHOOSE between PALM OS devices? What the hell is this? 2001? Palm's never had two decent devices out at the same time for a user like me since then. If this thing's Quality Control is up to spec, we may have one hell of a device- and company- here. RE: Best Palm Yet plus suggestionsackmondual @ 5/18/2005 3:15:38 AM #
to me, I've always had a choice among pOS devices (NOT necessarily just P1 handhelds). But my tastes are simplier. I don't need BT nor wifi. Over a year ago, it was between a z71, T|E, or the latest batch of Clie's at the time. Got the z71 for the SD card slot and digicam. Also figured P1 handhelds are more friendly towards running games. Now, if my T3 were to die, it'd be between a zod2, another T3 if i could find one, or a LD RE: Best Palm Yet plus suggestions
I'm concerned from a marketing standpoint about the video playback. It sounds like the ideo player is some kind of wimpy P1 media app? If this device is not robust enough for the masses to easily x-fer video, then she'll be left on eBay for us geeks only. Leaving off proper power-video crunching / playback software is disasterous to a "Mobile Manager"! Reminds me of the T|T release w/out RealPlayer! Can anyone else speak more about this?
RE: Best Palm Yet plus suggestions
Go ahead and chech the review at http://www.mobiletechreview.com/palmone-LifeDrive.htm It speaks quite well about the video player. An excerpt: "The application is fast even when loading thumbnails and viewing images from an SD card that had fifty five 2.5 meg JPEG images taken with our Pentax *ist DS 6.1 MP digital SLR camera. Given that my iPAQ hx4700 with 624 MHz Intel XScale processor is slow to view and rotate the same images, I'm impressed with palmOne's work here. " ____________________________________________________ Current fan of a 480x640 tablet shaped Palm with built in BT+Wifi for less than US$400 RE: Best Palm Yet plus suggestions
Well, if the OEM app is poor at playing video, there's alway the Core Pocket Media Player (TCPMP). They are still working on the polish, but the performance rocks. Full screen video on a T3 at 60FPS in portrait mode, 56.6FPS in widescreen landscape... and that's at the normal 400Mhz, no overclocking. If the T3 can manage that, the LD should do as well. RE: Best Palm Yet plus suggestions
Can't say enough about ho9w great the core player is - i grab a video that is double the res and it scales it without losing frames - no conversion necessary. I do this and ussually have overclocking on my t3. the ld should probably oc fine (though i am worried about the battery) RE: Best Palm Yet plus suggestions
rsc, I'm not talking about geeks like us having the ABILITY to run videos on overclocked, DVD hack videos through a 20 step process. I'm talking about whether PalmOne made this a "one-step" video x-fer process where the average "iPod like" user can EASILY put there DVDs or videos here for mobile use. If this is a pain or video is not smooth, then the Mobile Manager is a waste of time. RE: Best Palm Yet plus suggestions
>>>If this is a pain or video is not smooth, then the Mobile Manager is a waste of time. Yeah. What he said. RE: Best Palm Yet plus suggestions
Well, all my video transfer on my T3 is an easy one step process: i transfer the file to my SD card and then open it with TCPMP (the core player). Done. In fact - I refuse to re-encode. If you have to re-encode it is not a real vid player by my estimate. A 266mhz PC can run most video formats just fine and I expect the same from a 400 (or 416) mhz device - and TCPMP does it quite well. Even without OCing I find that a lot of videos encoded at 640 x whatever, playback AND with the scaling down to 320 x480 at a very acceptable framerate. No - it won't play every thing my PC does and won't play videos encoded at a high bitrate as smooth, but it passes the main test: i download episodes of my favorite tv shows using KazaaLite, i stick them on my sd card and voila. No re-encode (thats too much work IMO). Obviously it doesn't do WMV (no surprise there), but the other popular video formats and codecs are supported. Where to get legal video?
This video player thing is fine, but arnt you afraid of being prosecuted by the copyright police. I certainly would not want to lose my job and my house over a stupid TV program. I would love a legal download service at $1 per show. Surur RE: Best Palm Yet plus suggestions
And what part of the "easy as iPod crowd" is using KazaaLite to download television programs? I think that the original point still stands. How easy will this be for the non geek crowd? And where will they get their source material? Pre-Owned DVDs? Blockbuster? DV Camcorders? RE: Best Palm Yet plus suggestionsackmondual @ 5/21/2005 12:09:21 AM #
Legal download service at $1 per show? Not bloody likely. That's how much music already costs per song. I keep hearing people say that iTunes should really be charging no more than 50cents per song and lighten up on the DRM. As for how to get their legit video collection onto their SD cards or microdrives, they can post here for help on that. They already do that for help getting their music from CDs, hardrives, cassettes onto SD cards. I'm sure there's freeware software to help them with video xfers. RE: Best Palm Yet plus suggestions
$1 per show is quite reasonable. They are probably making much less than that per person in advertising. When they sell the DVD collection of shows they probably also charge about as much. Unlike music you would probably only watch a show one or two times, therefore it has less value that a nice song, which you may listen to 10-50 times. Ripping your own DVD's is easy, but if you had seen it already on your wide screen TV, whats the point of seeing it again? Surur RE: Best Palm Yet plus suggestions
>>$1 per show is quite reasonable.
Agreed - though as this service does not exist I will take my chances with "copyright police". I'm Canadian and as we already pay a small % levy on all recordable media to go towards compensating the music/tv/movie industry, this all falls under a 'not-illegal' grey area here. The copyright police are not allowed to obtain info from your ISP for this here. Anyways - getting off topic...
Order Placedbkirchhoff @ 5/18/2005 12:42:17 AM #
I just placed my order. Can't wait to get my hands on one. However had a couple of issues: - No free overnight shipping Anyone else encounter similar issues? RE: Order Placed
Yeah, Circuit City will have em' in the morning. :-) Give us a review as soon as she arrives!!!! RE: Order Placed
I just got off the phone with a sales rep. The free shipping won't kick in on the website until 7am, but if you call them the rep can set you up with free shipping now.
Native Acrobat?
From the article: "With support for native Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Adobe Acrobat Reader". But, alas, from the palmOne Store: I was excited for a moment: or have I missed anything recently? RE: Native Acrobat?
Acrobat Reader for Palm OS is the most pitiful app I've seen on a modern device. Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com RE: Native Acrobat?
Agreed - I don't think Adobe have bothered developing this since the release of any 320x480 device. On the other hand, I rather like RepliGo. This does a wonderful job of reproducing anything you can print in the format that its printed (conversion to Repligo pretty seamless via a phantom-printer - can't read native formats). Nice features added to the latest version that makes it very easy to read an A4 document on a T3. I know it's been around for a while, but I've only just tried it. I don't know why it doesn't get raved about. I know it's only a viewer but it potentially could do for Palm what pdf format did for PCs. RE: Native Acrobat?ackmondual @ 5/18/2005 3:19:20 AM #
Wait, so what are our choices for reading PDF files other than the pitiful Acrobat Reader for Palm? Repligo requires conversion displays PDF and other file types well? Anything else that can preferrably: RE: Native Acrobat?
Adobe Acrobat for PPC doesn't do a good job of reproducing formats of native pdfs. In fact they have a converter too to resize pdfs for a PPC. My PPC mates complain about it anyway. (1) Nothing handles native pdf on Palm - not even Adobe's Palm App. (2) Repligo retains everything. In fact, it creates the most faithful replication of a desktop formated document that I've seen on any PDA app. The viewer is free (including the PC & Palm vrs – I think there is a PPC viewer too). You have to buy the converter. (3) I think it's a bit misleading to suggest that this converts the documents. Rather it creates an image of the documents that the viewer can read. You cannot edit the images it creates. However you can highlight text and add notes. (4) Nice zooming and navigation features on the Palm viewer - also a viewing option that wraps text to suit the PDA screen if the document you're viewing contains text. Of course, I'm sure that you're probably wanting the ability to receive a pdf wirelessly and read it in native format. You may have to wait until Adobe do some more development. RE: Native Acrobat?Galley_SimRacer @ 5/18/2005 8:40:41 AM #
RepliGo can convert any printable document for viewing on a wide variety of platforms. And it's only $30!!! http://www.cerience.com/ -- "I'm not a cool person in real life, but I play one on the Internet". Galley RE: Native Acrobat?
Readable yes. If your Axim has a VGA screen that is 7" wide! Let's see where's that Breakthrough Stretch Display PalmOne had? VGA is fabulous on the WinMobs, but only so much info can physically be viewed on one that's 4" or less. The typical VGA (non HP 4700) or HVGA is still the size of a credit card. All the frontal area of a device makes it look larger. RE: Native Acrobat?
I also love RepliGo, definitely one of the best viewers around thanks to its printer driver! RE: Native Acrobat?
Does anyone think it's strange that the "Portable Document Format" is such a headache on anything portable? Desktop PCs, Macs, PPCs, and Palms all do Word, JPEG, GIF, and TIFF, so what purpose does the PDF serve, other than $ for Adobe? RE: Native Acrobat?
My favorite PDF viewer is Pixel, which came on my Clie (RIP). It shows amazing detail on every PDF I view, no matter the complexity or size. I can open and view pdf manuals 100s of pages long. On top of that it lets me view .doc, .xls, and a handful of picture formats! I wonder how quickly Pixel would run on a 416 MHz XScale vs. my poky Clie? RE: Native Acrobat?
Pixel came with my Sony TJ-37 and it is one of the best things since sliced bread. It will let you view PDF's, word doc's, images, and a bunch of other stuff. Plus you can zoom in and out. Have the hand move you around like in Adobe Reader and flip the thing around. Awesome program!!! ------------------------------------------------------- Proud owner of a Sony TJ-37! RE: Native Acrobat?ackmondual @ 5/21/2005 12:38:28 AM #
Does anyone think it's strange that the "Portable Document Format" is such a headache on anything portable?
Desktop PCs, Macs, PPCs, and Palms all do Word, JPEG, GIF, and TIFF, so what purpose does the PDF serve, other than $ for Adobe? > PDFs are big in certain businesses here and there. An acquaintance of mine who works at NPR at DC says PDF files are used alot there for their newsbits and such. Even so, despite Word and Offices' robustness and usefulness, M$ like Adobe is also shooting for $ from those programs.
RE: There's an absolutelt FANTASTIC review
Aargh! I would appreciate that review a great deal more if it actually used punctuation effectively. As it is it's a real chore to read, given that it consists mostly of absolutely huge run-on sentences that remain largely untouched by commas or semicolons... One of the more egregious examples follows. This is a single sentence! "Lets talk about some of the specs of the device let me start with the screen now we have got a fantastic screen here we have a high resolution screen that’s 4.80 x 3.20 now it’s a transflective TFT colour display now this baby actually accommodates both landscape and portrait modes now let me just tell you how this works on the left hand side of the device you have a little button and it is fantastic because you just flick it and it can go from portrait to landscape and vice versa its fantastic it really is and its great if I am looking at an internet page and I want to have a look at the full width of the page I just flick it and then I can immediately get landscape mode it is so, so simple it just does it in front of your eyes its very, very quick it is fantastic." ...and that's not even the biggest one. RE: There's an absolutelt FANTASTIC review
Yeah... sorry if I got you excited. I was trying to be sarcastic. The review covers a lot but the guy has "fantastic" on the brain. And it doesn't actually tell you anything useful. RE: There's an absolutelt FANTASTIC review
Yarr. Alas, my sarcasm detection is greatly hindered during periods of sleep deprivation. Too bad. And yet, I'm still tempted to go after that with a red pen. Two red pens, maybe; I might need them both after that monstrosity. RE: There's an absolutelt FANTASTIC review
Maybe he used G2 for it! :-) I don't think he knows what a paragraph is. Frank Wilkinson will have a stroke if he reads this. Especially one of his countrymen! ** Stylus = T3 = Springloaded ** He's wrong about audio streaming. His unit may have it, but P1 says it's an extra $25 for PT Deluxe version. :-( ** Screen must be = to the new FANTASTIC T|E2 screen quality if it's that much > T|C. Wowzers. ** He noticed the width fitting excellent in the hand. Yep, she's thick and long, but the width is going to make holding this in portrait very comfortable. I love the Vx, TE, and T3 (thinnest width), but all three are a little wide for holding very long.
RE: There's an absolutelt FANTASTIC review
Here's amore sober one from a PPC guy, AdamABrown: http://www.bargainpda.com/default.asp?newsID=2525&review=palmOne+LifeDrive RE: There's an absolutelt FANTASTIC reviewackmondual @ 5/18/2005 3:26:50 AM #
WTF!?! wtf wtf wtf!?! This is a college remedial english 101X caliber article w/o the other half of it.... politically incorrect phrases. I wish i saved this article for work instead. I can't sleep now with all the laughing i did. You're right on the punctuation. This guy manages to make a run-on sentence drag on for 4 pages (with picture in it at half window width) RE: There's an absolutelt FANTASTIC reviewackmondual @ 5/18/2005 3:34:16 AM #
And G2 is no excuse for run on sentences! If anything it should be better as '.', '?', and '!' marks are just as easy, if not easier to make on G2 compared to G1 RE: There's an absolutelt FANTASTIC review
I'm thinking it was dictated into the LiveDrive and somebody transcribed it without making any changes . . . "OK we have audio capabilities, we are able to take voice vocal notes so we can use the microphone to relate any notes that we may want to leave ourselves and I can do this very easily and Lindsey can pick up anything that I have dictated into the device" Henry RE: There's an absolutelt FANTASTIC review
Apparently this has not gotten around: Sammy has made no secret that he suffers from dyslexia. RE: There's an absolutelt FANTASTIC review
Ah. Okay. ..but then again, I'm not entirely sure how dyslexia contributes to something like that, aside from it possibly creating issues when proofreading. Both my mother and my sister have it and the worst I ever see is justification for my sister's favorite saying: "Creative Spelling is a prerequisite for Creative Writing." RE: There's an absolutelt FANTASTIC review
Cane, Are you serious? RE: There's an absolutelt FANTASTIC review
Yes. Sammy is dyslexic and he has a lot of problems putting text together. RE: There's an absolutely FANTASTIC review
So why does he not just run his text past a colleague, who could simply have inserted some comas and full stops? Is that so hard. Palm people are so good at making excuses... Surur RE: There's an absolutelt FANTASTIC review
Hey, surur, when will you put us out of your misery and slit your throat? Want me to draw you a map to the best artery? RE: There's an absolutelt FANTASTIC reviewrcartwright @ 5/21/2005 4:01:12 PM #
I suspect Mike is... he is always going for the jugular. "Many men stumble across the truth, but most manage to pick themselves up and continue as if nothing had happened." - Winston Churchill Dyslexia 101The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/21/2005 5:03:56 PM #
I suspect Mike is... he is always going for the jugular.
The jugular is a vein. I hope Lestat gets a hold of yours soon... Or maybe he already did. ------------------------ ------------------------ Say hello to my little friend...
Intrusion Protection function = Automatic Zero-Out Reset?!gfunkmagic @ 5/18/2005 12:45:47 AM #
I find that kinda interesting. On the Treo 650/T5, the data on the NVFS is not truely erased clean until you do a Zero-out reset. If you can make the Lifedrive do an automatic zero-out after a specific number of failed logons, then I think that's a pretty neat feature! :) I support http://Tapland.com/ -------------------- RE: Intrusion Protection function = Automatic Zero-Out Reset
Agreed,
Today's IT managers (purchasing police) are cracking down more and more on security. It's gotta pass that test to make into the enterprise.
Besides VGA screenie, this has it all....almost...gfunkmagic @ 5/18/2005 12:50:14 AM #
The other thing being the absence of Cobalt of course, but I don't think anyone believes that vaporware will ever see the light of day anymore... I support http://Tapland.com/ -------------------- RE: Besides VGA screenie, this has it all....almost...
GFunk, You've returned!!! This is going to be a very successful high end device for PalmOne. Looks excellent in every facet as long as they have not missed the $$$ point. Anyway, VGA would be nice, but actually HVGA is pretty awesome and has a better aspect ratio for playing movies in landscape. I wonder if the screen uses the same awesome tech as the new TE2? RE: Besides VGA screenie, this has it all....almost...
T H U M B P A D on subsequent submodel would be nice. Handspring already concluded that thumbpads were more popular than graffiti and they dropped the original treo180g model. Ed Colligan was a founder of handspring, now he's p1 ceo. I think the size is ok. Shorter and narrower than my tungsten c and barely thicker and heavier. Overall, I applaud their effort and wish them all the best. RE: Besides VGA screenie, this has it all....almost...ackmondual @ 5/18/2005 3:35:48 AM #
Again, i like to think it's what you do with the pixels that count, not how many you have, but those with good counter arguments would certainly beg to differ. Eh, who knows, maybe P1's got Super VGA in the works :p
I've never really believed in Cobalt either. If ya want Cobalt, get it here. It's not by PalmSource, but at least you can still say you have Cobalt with a straight face.
Is the FIND bug fixed?neilmitchell @ 5/18/2005 1:41:59 AM #
Has Palm released another buggy Palm or did they fix the limit on finding the first 8 contacts? Can someone who has their hands on one enter 9 contacts into their contacts database with the letter A in them and do a find on the letter A and see if the FIND MORE comes up with the correct 2nd screen? Atari-Portolio > HP95LX > HP100LX > HP300LX > HP320LX > Nino300 > Nino500 > HP620LX > Jornada680 > PalmV > Vx > m505 > T|T > T615C > T|T3 > T|E2 > (back to) T|T3 ------------------ Each success only buys an admission ticket to a more difficult problem - Henry Kissinger RE: Is the FIND bug fixed?neilmitchell @ 5/18/2005 2:30:26 AM #
Yep - the T|E2 has this problem and my T3 did not (thats why I sent my E2 back and carried on using my dieing T3)...can someone put me out of my missery and let me know if this was fixed in the LD? Atari-Portolio > HP95LX > HP100LX > HP300LX > HP320LX > Nino300 > Nino500 > HP620LX > Jornada680 > PalmV > Vx > m505 > T|T > T615C > T|T3 > T|E2 > (back to) T|T3 ------------------ Each success only buys an admission ticket to a more difficult problem - Henry Kissinger RE: Is the FIND bug fixed?
YES, the find bug is resolved and you can find more than 8 contacts per search. RE: Is the FIND bug fixed?
Does the Find show actual dates with the results when searching through Calendar like the T3? RE: Is the FIND bug fixed?neilmitchell @ 5/18/2005 2:53:10 PM #
Thank-you "Admin". This was the deal killer for me. If this is fixed I just need to convince myself on the physcial size... Atari-Portolio > HP95LX > HP100LX > HP300LX > HP320LX > Nino300 > Nino500 > HP620LX > Jornada680 > PalmV > Vx > m505 > T|T > T615C > T|T3 > T|E2 > (back to) T|T3 ------------------ Each success only buys an admission ticket to a more difficult problem - Henry Kissinger RE: Is the FIND bug fixed?
Gekko - YES, Find does show the date & time for matching events in a search. RE: Is the FIND bug fixed?
Great. This means that T5 owners are just scrood, period, right? No update -- OR soup -- for you! RE: Is the FIND bug fixed?
Gekko! You have no excuse now. Sell those Star Wars collectors items and get the $500 for the LD. We need a real review. Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com RE: Is the FIND bug fixed?
Tonight's season finale of CSI is apparently being directed by Quentin Tarantino. That will be worth seeing. Similarly, Gekko, we need *you* to get your mitts on a LifeDrive and burst a blood vessel or two for our amusement and enlightenment in writing about it. That would be worth reading. Come on -- You Know You Want To! RE: Is the FIND bug fixed?
Admin - When you say that the Find bug is fixed, are you referring to the LD? Other posts here seem to be referring to other models as well. If this thread is really only about the LD, please do not read on. On the other hand, I would appreciate some insight here. I just got a E2 and the FIND bug is still there, at least not on my unit. Searches in Contacts stop at one screen and the "Find More" function only redisplays that screen. Are you (or is anyone) aware of any downloadable fix? I am surprised at Palm for this. Thanks to you all for any assistance. RE: Is the FIND bug fixed?ackmondual @ 5/21/2005 12:59:15 AM #
that scene at the end was sooo his style. He just has to have some kind of blood and/or gore in his works. RE: Is the FIND bug fixed?neilmitchell @ 5/21/2005 5:06:05 PM #
martink...this is why I asked the CONTACTS FIND bug question as my T3 was on it's last legs and bought an E2 as a "hold over" and experienced the FIND bug (for the first time) here. This thread was LD specific and based on "admins" assurance on the FIND fix I have splashed out on an LD as my T3 is getting progressively worse and while I dislike the Hard Drive & larger form factor I need a replacement and the T5 is a pile of P*o.
------------------ Each success only buys an admission ticket to a more difficult problem - Henry Kissinger
LifeDrive Mobile managercajunagent @ 5/18/2005 3:03:15 AM #
Read my palm! This baby is smokin! Palm was really lisening to us on this! RE: LifeDrive Mobile managerackmondual @ 5/18/2005 3:40:39 AM #
I'm glad the LD is finally out. To mark the event, the second screw of my T3 decided to fall out. $500 for a LD ain't bad considering that it already looks MUCH better than a T5 for $350 even with wifi card. Lets hope the LD doesn't have any lose ends. Hell, the T3 had them for a while till they were mostly fixed. I came into the online palm community only recently... around 1.25 years ago. Any1 know just how long pOS users have been requesting something in the likes of a LD? RE: LifeDrive Mobile manager
I've been lurking for two years after I went to the darkside and bought an iPAQ 4100 series device. My God! Finally! I'm going to seriously check the LD out, it sure sounds like I can finally come back to the Palm camp!
Pilot 1000 > PilotPro > PIII > PIIIC > M500 > iPAQ H3600 > T2 > T3 > iPAQiPAQ 4155
First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
"The big news with LifeDrive is of course the introduction of an all-new 4GB Hitachi Microdrive. Rather using traditional ROM to store internal OS and embedded applications, LifeDrive uses a built-in hard drive to accommodate everything. When you launch an application, the software and data is written from the hard drive and gets cached. When the Hard drive is active, the amber LED glows to indicate what is happening. However, during these moments of “activity”, LifeDrive lags..sometimes for more than few seconds. At time it performs more like an early Pocket PC device than a Palm. According to PalmOne, the last few applications you access get cached, and will open immediately without any hesitation the next time they’re accessed. Meaning you shouldn’t experience lag time thereafter. This is true, for the most part, but in my tests the Hard drive is accessed nearly all the time, whether I’m opening applications that I have already accessed or sorting through previously accessed data. The bottom line is that you experience a great deal of pausing whenever the hard drive is writing/reading, which makes the overall experience far different from what you may be accustomed to on previous handhelds. On my Tungsten T5 for example, everything you do takes place instantly without any hesitation. If you tap the Calendar icon, the program pops right up on your screen. Do the same task on LifeDrive, the LED comes one and things come to a pause as app gets cached. For most users this won’t be a big deal. But be forewarned, this is not quite like using a Tungsten or Zire." http://www.pocketfactory.com/archives/2005/05/review_palmone_3.php Two More Big Dealbreakers
"Though the OS changes are fairly minor, they are apparently enough to render useless the Grafitti 1 hacks developed for the Tungsten T5 and other models running OS 5.4. Just trying to restore classic Grafitti put my unit into a soft-reset loop that required a complete wipe to fix. So much for that time I spent filling the hard drive." http://www.bargainpda.com/default.asp?newsID=2525&review=palmOne+LifeDrive 1. G1 Hack/Patch Doesn't work. RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
"With the speed information we have, we can conclude that to fill the entire 3.72 GB available area of the microdrive would take roughly 46 minutes. Not exactly speedy, but presumably most people would load the LD with their files and then leave them there." http://www.bargainpda.com/default.asp?newsID=2525&review=palmOne+LifeDrive RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
In a handheld there is a right way and a wrong way to integrate a microdrive. Installing apps you intend to use regularly on a microdrive is just stupid. It should only be reserved for Media and very large data. Surur RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
>"In a handheld there is a right way and a wrong way to integrate a microdrive. Installing apps you intend to use regularly on a microdrive is just stupid. It should only be reserved for Media and very large data." AGREED! Put the PIM Apps/Data in *REAL REGULAR RAM* you fuggin dummies!!!!! RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
>>>1. G1 Hack/Patch Doesn't work. Is this so?! Ah, shyte!!! specs are a dealmaker
4GB of free space on a LD vs 52MB on a T3. I'll take a second or two lag to write from a microdrive if I can store 75X as much data on a PDA with Wi-fi and Bluetooth. Unless you haven't touched a desktop computer in the last ten years, it isn't that life-altering. (cue Gekko correcting the calculation of 75X as not being entirely correct and obscuring the main point) This is a very good-looking unit and I'm ready to upgrade from my T3, provided the early reviews don't reveal that it catches fire or falls apart in a strong wind. There is no such thing as a perfect PDA with every spec you want and no limitations or problems....but there are very very good ones. The T3 was a very very good one, and it looks like this one definitely is as well. RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
< It may be wrong, but it is cheap! T5 worked out all those issues, that is if you call the T5 worked out. It is the simple implement, but absolutely pathetic for the user. If handhelds become as sluggish as a Windows PC, then they are worth little IMO. "Let me get you their phone number .... hold on while my computer comes up ..." :-( RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
Pat - my Windows XP PC/Dell Notebook is QUITE FAST. Why do you propagate such myths? Palm data access is getting slower while the rest of free world's gets FASTER. "Bread of deceit is sweet to a man; but afterwards his mouth shall be filled with gravel." - Proverbs 20:17 RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
Quoting LF: "It may be wrong, but it is cheap! T5 worked out all those issues, that is if you call the T5 worked out. It is the simple implement, but absolutely pathetic for the user. If handhelds become as sluggish as a Windows PC, then they are worth little IMO. "Let me get you their phone number .... hold on while my computer comes up ..." " Seriously, I had that happen with the rx3715 too many times. I cant stand the time it takes for it to come out of sleep; and worse looking at a spinning timer when I hit to power button to turn it off. Not kool. And yes, this could have been done better by palmOne, but if we arent really working for them (unless you count the purchasing of a device being a part of the beta team) then there is not much we can say. RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
>"And yes, this could have been done better by palmOne, but if we arent really working for them (unless you count the purchasing of a device being a part of the beta team) then there is not much we can say." "There is only one boss, and that is the Customer, and he can fire everybody from the chairman on down, simply by spending his money somewhere else." - Sam Walton RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
Not so much as a boss, as a committee or board, and the majority of them have to be in agreement. A little tricky in the US sometimes where "stupid is, as stupid votes". RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
No Graffiti 1, and no way to hack it back in? Beautiful, PalmOne. I guess Palms will soon just be bricks for watching movies. Anybody want to start a company that creates PDAs? We can license "Block Recognizer" from whomever M$ gets it from... RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
My Inspiron 5100 2.4ghz, 512MB yadayada takes 25 seconds to come outta sleep even if I wanted to see the time, get a contact etc. If I wanted it to do PDA functions and be ready in 1/2 second, it would still take 2-3 secs and drain the battery in 3 hours waiting to respond. Go to prefs, ummm Control Panel = hourglass Open MS-Word = Hourglass Run Firefox = hourglass Search for files ... watch the udmb dog do tricks forever! etc etc Once the gargantuan memory get loaded with progs, they work pretty fast ... it just has to be that perfect world. Sitting on my desktop is pretty close to that most times. But I'm talking compared to the awesome response of a Tungsten, Zire or even m5xxx PDA. Those are almost instant. PalmOne is slowly but surely leaving this simple and effective arena for the land of the hourglass. I won't like it. Thanks for the 'Wise Saying" there. RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
"My Inspiron 5100 2.4ghz, 512MB yadayada takes 25 seconds to come outta sleep even if I wanted to see the time, get a contact etc." Jeeze man. My Apple Powerbook is 3 seconds or less... I can boot from power off in less time than your Dell coming out of sleep. Oh, and ah G4 1.33Ghz, 1GB RAM yadayada. RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
So, I guess this means Gekko is the guy who refuses to shop in Wal-Mart, but comes into the store every day anyway to loudly proclaim that Wal-Mart sucks and everyone should shop elsewhere. ;) RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
hey lesh - how many Palms have you owned? I've owned EIGHT. But, thank you very much, we appreciate your comments. *******. RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
So how many devices you've owned allows you to talk s***t about PalmOne every chance you get? I've owned at least 15 in the past four years, and I'd like to say that I still think you're good for not much else than complaints. Have you ever anything - ANYTHING - constructive to say? It's always caps-lock and exclamation point city for you. Get over it, get off the Internet, and if Palm pisses you off *that* much, then I'd say you might as well just go sit in the PPC camp and be happy. Most likely, you bash those devices too. Oh, I get it. You're one of those users that palmOne couldn't please even if they COULD come up with your dream handheld. You'd still be there to find something wrong with it. Contribute something truly constructive - not a veiled hissy fit - and then maybe I'll take you seriously when you complain. Until then, I think I'll back up anyone else on here, regardless of if they've owned 1 Palm Powered device or 30. RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
Gekko hey lesh - how many Palms have you owned? I've owned EIGHT. Yippie for you. For the record, I've owned six. The Lifedrive will be number seven. And, yes, this is a discussion forum, Gekko. Sad thing is, you haven't had anything useful to contribute for months. Yet, you keep posting here. You have no leg to stand on when accusing others of not having anything relevant to say. RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
If you don't like my posts, don't read them. PLENTY of people here (while they may not always agree with them) LIKE my posts. Whatever you do, just stop whining about MY posts. Just PLEASE post something remotely interesting. This is my last reply to you two whiners. Thanks for wasting 5 minutes of my life. RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
Gekko This is my last reply to you two whiners. Thanks for wasting 5 minutes of my life. Pot? Kettle. Nice to meet you. RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
>>>I've owned at least 15 in the past four years 1) Are you clumsy? 2) Did they fall apart within months of purchase? 3) Or are you just a dick with too much money and too little brains? (As is usual for that ilk...) RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
1) Are you clumsy? 2) Did they fall apart within months of purchase? 3) Or are you just a dick with too much money and too little brains? (As is usual for that ilk...) 1. Yes, I'm clumsy, but I've only lost one - a Palm IIIe SE - to that by dropping it on the tile floor. My friend came over, picked up my Visor Neo, and thought it was sweet until he dropped it face first on my hardwood floor. He tried to hide it from me. It's hard to hide a broken glass top. 2. Only a IIIc and a Visor. 3. No, I'm a developer, and the only way to absolutely, positively confirm that something works on each device is to test it yourself on each device. The Garnet simulator and Copilot only go so far. :) RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
>>>3. No, I'm a developer, and the only way to absolutely, positively confirm that something works on each device is to test it yourself on each device. The Garnet simulator and Copilot only go so far. :) Geez, you guys have my sympathy these days. It must be hell developing for the schizo versions of this OS now! RE: First Big Dealbreaker: SPEED (or lack thereof)
// Jeeze man. My Apple Powerbook is 3 seconds or less... I can boot from power off in less time than your Dell coming out of sleep. Oh, and ah G4 1.33Ghz, 1GB RAM yadayada. //
cbowers, You're right. I'm just saying M$ is pathetic. I would make the switch if it do not rock my entire world. Got the Dell free if you can believe that, so it's hard to beat the $$$. I would love to see Apple or Linux destroy M$.
non removable battery ?
why non-removable battery ? what if the battery dies. Could customer unscrew the palm and replace the battery by himself? RE: non removable battery ?
Yes, but void the warranty, possible static shock the motherboard, or damage the unit while the only advantage would be to replace a non-working cell. Far to slow for carrying an extra. I can't believe P1 has not seized the replaceable battery deal ... they could make a fortune off extras like Nokia and the rest. Odd? RE: non removable battery ?
"what if the battery dies." Well you just clip your Power To Go onto the Universal Connector... oh, wait... The athena connector should have been built with a bridge adaptor for the universal connector in mind. RE: non removable battery ?
"I can't believe P1 has not seized the replaceable battery deal ... they could make a fortune off extras like Nokia and the rest. Odd?"
Well it's not like they didn't make some money of the Power-to-go product. It's not unlike carrying around a large spare battery. They trade-off being that you have to leave it on for a period while it recharges. This wouldn't be such a bad way of going if they were able to adopt NEC's "organic radical battery" that can recharge in 30 seconds.
Apple's video iPod?
http://www.pdalive.com/showarticle.php?threadid=8560 I am away from the PC most of today. I'll catch up with all the reviews and posts later. (Of course, if I had a LifeDrive, I'd catch up via WiFi sooner...) |
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com