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Maximum expansion card sizes and types compatible with Palm devices
LifeDrive: see Knowledge Library article 39823 instead of this article.

Because Secure Digital (SD) and MultiMediaCard (MMC) technology continues to evolve, newer expansion cards may offer different features, such as larger capacity and faster transfer speed, than were available for us to test when we developed our handhelds. Although we couldn't test future expansion cards with older handhelds during development, we expect many newer expansion cards to work with older devices.

The maximum size of expansion card that can be used in your device depends on the model.

Centro 4GB
microSD We have tested 4GB microSD cards and SDHC (secure digital high capacity) cards and can say that they will work in this device.

Treo 755p 4GB
miniSD We have tested 4GB miniSD cards and SDHC (secure digital high capacity) cards and can say that they will work in this device.

Treo 680, 700p, 650, 600
Tungsten T5
Zire 72
LifeDrive*
and newer devices 2GB
SD and MMC We have tested 2GB SDIO, MMC and SD expansion cards with these devices and can say that they will work in these devices.
Note: While Palm has tested a wide variety of common expansion cards, we have not tested all brands and cannot guarantee support for all possible cards.

4GB cards or higher? We have not tested these cards with most of the devices listed here; we cannot state compatibility at this time. Treo 700p: The Treo 700p Update, if available for your carrier version, adds compatibility with 4GB expansion cards.

SDHC cards? No, most of these Palm devices are not compatible with SDHC cards that comply with version 2.00 of the SD specification. Treo 700p: The Treo 700p Update, if available for your carrier version, adds compatibility with SDHC cards. Other devices listed here are not compatible.


Tungsten E2, T3, T2, T
Zire 71, 31, 21
and previous devices 1GB
SD and MMC These devices support SDIO cards, MultiMediaCard and SD expansion cards up to 1GB. Because of the file system used by these models, and those that came before them, larger cards may cause unexpected behavior or not work in these devices.
SDHC cards? No, these Palm devices are not compatible with SDHC cards that comply with version 2.00 of the SD specification.

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Palm under-evaluate the capacity of the handling of cards.

For example, my Zire 71 can handle 2Gb cards just fine. I've got various brands and never had a single problem.

The TX is said to be capable up to 2Gb, according to Palm, even if it has a SDHC port. I've read many report from people stating that they are using a 4Gb and even 8Gb cards, BUT, not all brands are compatible.

Someone (Palm or a tech site) needs to do a full testing of all cards that they can get their hands on and share their findings.

If the device can only access 4 GBytes, then it doesn't matter if you CAN put an 8Gbyte card in it - it will still only access 4GBytes.

Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

-James.

USR Pilot 5000, Palm Pilot Pro, Palm V, Clie 610C, Clie TG50, Clie UX50, Treo 650, Treo 680

But my point still holds...

Palm states that the Zire 71 can only go to 1Gb, when I never had trouble with 2Gb cards.

It states 2Gb for the TX, and it can go to 4Gb.

-- http://www.the-rocketman.com/whatchamacallit/DSC00678.jpg

...This is like putting jet fuel in a Model T.

How about a cosworth rally engine in a Model A?
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/28/finnishing-touch-cosworth-powered-ford-model-a/

The hardware doesn't matter to play the media, it won't care what card you have as long at it's working.

If you use TCPMP, the software is about 1Mb, if your machine/device can use it, then why would it be different to play a movie from a 1,2,4,8,32,64 Gb card?

With a 2Gb card, I can put several hours of movies on it, and hundreds if not thousands of songs.

I bought a Zen Vision M (30Gb) to have all my music with me if I need it... if I could have just gotten a card instead, I might have done that instead.

Palm needs to reboot the Zire series with a full PMP model, large onboard memory, ports and outputs (for video) and SDHC slot.

If they go with a new OS, then they better make sure that they have an emulator or something to keep all the already available software going.

Larger capacity battery (1600-1800mAh), a brighter/whiter LCD, fullsize SDHC slot, 4gb of internal flash, and an up-to-date software bundle (at least as good as the Centro's) would be sufficient for a TX2. 802.11g, a charge LED and an internal microphone would really make it a standout.

Palm could still ask $275-$300 for a unit with the above specs. Yes, I know people will trot out the usual "But Apple sells an iPod Touch with 8-16 gigs of storage for not much more" but let's be realistic here. Palm is an infinitely smaller company without the buying power of Apple. Palm requires higher margins to stay afloat and I think the Palm faithful wouldn't balk too much at a new $299 PMP PDA, especially if it has decent build quality and no showstopping bugs.

What Palm does need to do is drop the existing handhelds down to $75 (Z22), $125-$150 (E2) and $199 (TX) ASAP. $299 for a TX and $200 for an E2 are ENTIRELY too high for devices that are ~2.5 to ~3 years old.

Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

To be realistic then: Palm is dead.

>>>Palm is an infinitely smaller company without the buying power of Apple.

They weren't ALWAYS so helpless. They MADE THEMSELVES that way. No pity.

>>>Palm requires higher margins to stay afloat and I think the Palm faithful wouldn't balk too much at a new $299 PMP PDA, especially if it has decent build quality and no showstopping bugs.

Go waste your money. See if people with brains care.

No, I'll probably end up with a cheap EEEPC to tinker with and see how the market shakes out over the next 6-9 months. Garmin's NuviPhone looks *very* interesting, to be quite honest.

Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

You could get one of these:

-- http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/04/cloudbook-promo-video-not-exactly-high-budget/

Moore's Law got us to 32GB SD Cards rather quickly. has Palm kept pace?

nobody agrees with me?

And my LifeDrive is stuck at 4GB (or 4GB +2GB SD).

Eh. Doesn't matter. I've stopped using 75% of the LifeDrive. Down to PIMs (of which I just use 3!).

That is to say, you're an average smartphone user.

Now, Apple could absolutely break the backs of the competition but installing a fullsize SDHC slot in *SOMETHING* they make. But they'd never due that because it makes too much sense. I'd love for someone like Cowon or iRiver to come out of nowhere with a sleek PMP with 32gb of flash + one or two fullsize SDHC slots that was totally multi-platform, multi-format and unencumbered by DRM/"store" software.

Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

Like the woman I saw on the subway recently with a Centro. That she put away and then used an *iPod Shuffle* to listen to music?

Steve Jobs doesn't like slots. No way would he allow filthy disease-carrying SDHC to have intercourse with his sleek sexy bling.

Besides, the way Apple is buying up Flash, prices will drop like mad for everyone. Even Palm. (Not that Palm would know wtf to *do* with it...)