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SanDisk Announces 32 and 16 GB SDHC Cards

SanDisk 32gb SDHC CardSanDisk announced today that is has increased both capacities and speeds in its SanDisk Ultra II line with the introduction of 32 and 16-gigabyte GB SDHC cards and an 8GB SDHC Plus card. Aimed primarily at high end camera users, the cards can record both video and still images, and offer faster read and write speeds of 15 megabytes per second (15MB/sec), up from previous speeds of 10MB/sec read and 9MB/sec write in the SanDisk Ultra II line.

Beyond speed and capacity, the 8GB SanDisk Ultra II SDHC Plus offers both SD and USB functionality in one card. Designed with SanDisk’s patented Hinge Lock technology, the card may be inserted into a USB port on any computer. This two-in-one SD-plus-USB feature eliminates the need to carry cables or card readers to transfer photos and videos from cameras. Despite its small size, the hinge is sturdy – having survived more than 10,000 open-close cycles in SanDisk’s durability testing.

The 32GB SanDisk Ultra II SDHC card with MicroMate USB 2.0 Reader has a MSRP of $349.99 USD. The 16GB card with reader has a suggested price of $179.99, and the 8GB SanDisk Ultra II SDHC Plus card has an MSRP of $99.99. The 16GB and 8GB cards are expected to be available worldwide in March, with the 32GB slated for shipping in April. You can search for the latest SanDisk Ultra cards and prices here.

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chart of Palm products and memory card support/featurs

Poopie @ 1/31/2008 2:21:05 PM # Q
Does anyone have a chart by Palm model that shows the following:

1) memory card slot / supported memory card types
2) maximum usable memory card size
3) maximum bus speed for memory card I/O
4) hacks/upgrades/caveats/etc about larger memory card usage on this model

I'm sure it would be helpful to a number of people to know whether they can/should buy larger memory cards, make sure they don't buy the wrong type, and make sure they don't buy cards larger than they can use, and also make sure they don't pay more for faster cards if their internal card readers can't take advantage of the extra speed.

RE: chart of Palm products and memory card support/featurs
wildmantrader @ 1/31/2008 3:55:02 PM # Q
RE: chart of Palm products and memory card support/featurs
wildmantrader @ 1/31/2008 4:00:31 PM # Q
Lets try this.

Maximum expansion card sizes and types compatible with Palm devices
LifeDrive: see Knowledge Library article 39823 instead of this article.

Because Secure Digital (SD) and MultiMediaCard (MMC) technology continues to evolve, newer expansion cards may offer different features, such as larger capacity and faster transfer speed, than were available for us to test when we developed our handhelds. Although we couldn't test future expansion cards with older handhelds during development, we expect many newer expansion cards to work with older devices.

The maximum size of expansion card that can be used in your device depends on the model.


Centro 4GB
microSD We have tested 4GB microSD cards and SDHC (secure digital high capacity) cards and can say that they will work in this device.

Treo 755p 4GB
miniSD We have tested 4GB miniSD cards and SDHC (secure digital high capacity) cards and can say that they will work in this device.

Treo 680, 700p, 650, 600
Tungsten T5
Zire 72
LifeDrive*
and newer devices 2GB
SD and MMC We have tested 2GB SDIO, MMC and SD expansion cards with these devices and can say that they will work in these devices.
Note: While Palm has tested a wide variety of common expansion cards, we have not tested all brands and cannot guarantee support for all possible cards.

4GB cards or higher? We have not tested these cards with most of the devices listed here; we cannot state compatibility at this time. Treo 700p: The Treo 700p Update, if available for your carrier version, adds compatibility with 4GB expansion cards.

SDHC cards? No, most of these Palm devices are not compatible with SDHC cards that comply with version 2.00 of the SD specification. Treo 700p: The Treo 700p Update, if available for your carrier version, adds compatibility with SDHC cards. Other devices listed here are not compatible.


Tungsten E2, T3, T2, T
Zire 71, 31, 21
and previous devices 1GB
SD and MMC These devices support SDIO cards, MultiMediaCard and SD expansion cards up to 1GB. Because of the file system used by these models, and those that came before them, larger cards may cause unexpected behavior or not work in these devices.
SDHC cards? No, these Palm devices are not compatible with SDHC cards that comply with version 2.00 of the SD specification.

Tiny url http://tinyurl.com/2cpvmf

RE: chart of Palm products and memory card support/featurs
SeldomVisitor @ 1/31/2008 4:03:49 PM # Q
Looks like that 32bit addressing limit again.

RE: chart of Palm products and memory card support/featurs
imfallen_angel @ 1/31/2008 4:18:41 PM # Q
This information has been proven wrong quite a few times.

Palm under-evaluate the capacity of the handling of cards.

For example, my Zire 71 can handle 2Gb cards just fine. I've got various brands and never had a single problem.

The TX is said to be capable up to 2Gb, according to Palm, even if it has a SDHC port. I've read many report from people stating that they are using a 4Gb and even 8Gb cards, BUT, not all brands are compatible.

Someone (Palm or a tech site) needs to do a full testing of all cards that they can get their hands on and share their findings.



RE: chart of Palm products and memory card support/featurs
AdamaDBrown @ 1/31/2008 4:33:30 PM # Q
You may be mistaken. The Palm TX has a hard limit of 4 GB, non-SDHC. There is no way to use an SDHC card with it at present, even with the SDHC driver pulled from the 680.

RE: chart of Palm products and memory card support/featurs
SeldomVisitor @ 1/31/2008 5:12:09 PM # Q
"using" a particular card does not necessarily mean being able to access the entire card.

If the device can only access 4 GBytes, then it doesn't matter if you CAN put an 8Gbyte card in it - it will still only access 4GBytes.

RE: chart of Palm products and memory card support/featurs
hkklife @ 1/31/2008 5:17:34 PM # Q
I'm actually working on a detailed PIC article of this type but it'll have "official" and "unofficial" specs in it.



Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

RE: chart of Palm products and memory card support/featurs
jamesgood72 @ 2/1/2008 3:40:30 AM # Q
FYI, I have successfully used a Transcend 8GB SDHC class 6 card for the past 6 months on my 680... It's filled with 8GB of MP3s for use in PocketTunes.

-James.

USR Pilot 5000, Palm Pilot Pro, Palm V, Clie 610C, Clie TG50, Clie UX50, Treo 650, Treo 680

RE: chart of Palm products and memory card support/featurs
imfallen_angel @ 2/4/2008 10:51:48 AM # Q
I rechecked, and you are right, the TX doesn't have an SDHC port, but, hey, I was going with what some people reported.

But my point still holds...

Palm states that the Zire 71 can only go to 1Gb, when I never had trouble with 2Gb cards.

It states 2Gb for the TX, and it can go to 4Gb.



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Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.

Gekko @ 1/31/2008 6:22:46 PM # Q

So WTF good is a 32GB SD Card good for on a 320x320 64MB 312mhz FrankenGarnet device with crippled, archaic, limited FrankenGarnet Apps???? This is like putting jet fuel in a Model T.



RE: Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.
SeldomVisitor @ 1/31/2008 6:40:31 PM # Q
> ...This is like putting jet fuel in a Model T.

-- http://www.the-rocketman.com/whatchamacallit/DSC00678.jpg

RE: Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.
Poopie @ 1/31/2008 6:48:09 PM # Q

...This is like putting jet fuel in a Model T.

How about a cosworth rally engine in a Model A?
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/28/finnishing-touch-cosworth-powered-ford-model-a/

RE: Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.
SeldomVisitor @ 2/1/2008 8:36:44 AM # Q
Note that the image I showed was of a V-12...gack!

RE: Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.
mikecane @ 2/1/2008 10:10:43 AM # Q
So, Gekko, did you get a Centro yet? Ed Colligan wants you to.

RE: Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.
imfallen_angel @ 2/4/2008 11:00:08 AM # Q
No it isn't... it memory... extra space for media like music and video.

The hardware doesn't matter to play the media, it won't care what card you have as long at it's working.

If you use TCPMP, the software is about 1Mb, if your machine/device can use it, then why would it be different to play a movie from a 1,2,4,8,32,64 Gb card?

With a 2Gb card, I can put several hours of movies on it, and hundreds if not thousands of songs.

I bought a Zen Vision M (30Gb) to have all my music with me if I need it... if I could have just gotten a card instead, I might have done that instead.

Palm needs to reboot the Zire series with a full PMP model, large onboard memory, ports and outputs (for video) and SDHC slot.

If they go with a new OS, then they better make sure that they have an emulator or something to keep all the already available software going.



RE: Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.
hkklife @ 2/4/2008 12:03:21 PM # Q
Even that much wouldn't be necessary had Palm just bothered to spend a few $ to refresh the existing TX.

Larger capacity battery (1600-1800mAh), a brighter/whiter LCD, fullsize SDHC slot, 4gb of internal flash, and an up-to-date software bundle (at least as good as the Centro's) would be sufficient for a TX2. 802.11g, a charge LED and an internal microphone would really make it a standout.

Palm could still ask $275-$300 for a unit with the above specs. Yes, I know people will trot out the usual "But Apple sells an iPod Touch with 8-16 gigs of storage for not much more" but let's be realistic here. Palm is an infinitely smaller company without the buying power of Apple. Palm requires higher margins to stay afloat and I think the Palm faithful wouldn't balk too much at a new $299 PMP PDA, especially if it has decent build quality and no showstopping bugs.

What Palm does need to do is drop the existing handhelds down to $75 (Z22), $125-$150 (E2) and $199 (TX) ASAP. $299 for a TX and $200 for an E2 are ENTIRELY too high for devices that are ~2.5 to ~3 years old.

Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

RE: Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.
mikecane @ 2/4/2008 3:05:57 PM # Q
>>>Palm could still ask $275-$300 for a unit with the above specs. Yes, I know people will trot out the usual "But Apple sells an iPod Touch with 8-16 gigs of storage for not much more" but let's be realistic here.

To be realistic then: Palm is dead.

>>>Palm is an infinitely smaller company without the buying power of Apple.

They weren't ALWAYS so helpless. They MADE THEMSELVES that way. No pity.

>>>Palm requires higher margins to stay afloat and I think the Palm faithful wouldn't balk too much at a new $299 PMP PDA, especially if it has decent build quality and no showstopping bugs.

Go waste your money. See if people with brains care.

RE: Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.
hkklife @ 2/4/2008 3:24:57 PM # Q
Eh, Mike? How am I wasting my $? I haven't bought a Palm product (Treo or handheld) in nearly 2 years (aside from my Palm GPS Navigator kit)! And even if Palm DID release such a unit as I described I wouldn't buy it impulsively.

No, I'll probably end up with a cheap EEEPC to tinker with and see how the market shakes out over the next 6-9 months. Garmin's NuviPhone looks *very* interesting, to be quite honest.



Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

RE: Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.
SeldomVisitor @ 2/4/2008 5:50:58 PM # Q
> ...I'll probably end up with a cheap EEEPC...

You could get one of these:

-- http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/04/cloudbook-promo-video-not-exactly-high-budget/

RE: Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.
Gekko @ 2/4/2008 11:07:35 PM # Q

my point was that 32GB of storage cries out for hardware/software that can FULLY TAKE ADVANTAGE of it. a 320x320 display with a pokey processor, an archaic/buggy OS/media Apps, and minimal RAM/Heap/Cache does not cut it.

Moore's Law got us to 32GB SD Cards rather quickly. has Palm kept pace?

nobody agrees with me?

RE: Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.
freakout @ 2/4/2008 11:19:45 PM # Q
^^ Depends, Gekko. Buy me one so I can see if it works in my 680. ;)
RE: Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.
mikecane @ 2/5/2008 10:35:03 AM # Q
** 32GB ** iPod Touch
** 16GB ** iPhone

And my LifeDrive is stuck at 4GB (or 4GB +2GB SD).

Eh. Doesn't matter. I've stopped using 75% of the LifeDrive. Down to PIMs (of which I just use 3!).

RE: Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.
SeldomVisitor @ 2/5/2008 11:03:37 AM # Q
> ...Down to PIMs (of which I just use 3!).

That is to say, you're an average smartphone user.

RE: Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.
hkklife @ 2/5/2008 2:30:09 PM # Q
Nay, Mike. The LD can have a max of 4GB SD 1.1 (*NOT* SDHC) in the slot. So 4gigs internally + 4gigs in the slot. That nasty 32-bit addressing bug + the usual FrankenGarnet limitations rear their head to make anythng more than an 8GB card a very spotty affair.

Now, Apple could absolutely break the backs of the competition but installing a fullsize SDHC slot in *SOMETHING* they make. But they'd never due that because it makes too much sense. I'd love for someone like Cowon or iRiver to come out of nowhere with a sleek PMP with 32gb of flash + one or two fullsize SDHC slots that was totally multi-platform, multi-format and unencumbered by DRM/"store" software.



Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

RE: Moore's Law died long ago at Palm, Inc.
mikecane @ 2/6/2008 4:51:33 PM # Q
>>>That is to say, you're an average smartphone user.

Like the woman I saw on the subway recently with a Centro. That she put away and then used an *iPod Shuffle* to listen to music?

Steve Jobs doesn't like slots. No way would he allow filthy disease-carrying SDHC to have intercourse with his sleek sexy bling.

Besides, the way Apple is buying up Flash, prices will drop like mad for everyone. Even Palm. (Not that Palm would know wtf to *do* with it...)

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