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PalmSource today announced the winners of the Fall 2005 U.S. Powered Up Awards. The Fall 2005 U.S. Powered Up Awards recognize Palm OS developers who have created innovative software applications representing the best of breed in the Palm Powered Economy and take advantage of the advanced features of Palm Powered phones and mobile devices.
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No TCPMP again.

legodude522 @ 12/19/2005 1:53:47 PM # Q
At least mmplayer didn't win the multimedia award this time!

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RE: No TCPMP again.
ackmondual @ 12/19/2005 2:32:36 PM # Q
My guess is that like other apps that don't get nominated/voted for, TCPMP just doesn't have enough "outside" exposure
RE: No TCPMP again.
WareW01f @ 12/19/2005 3:33:12 PM # Q
Imagine competing with a product that Palm ships in the ROM of some devices. (Ouch!) Most people still don't have a clue what TCPMP is yet. Give it time and some more UI bling and it'll be up there. In the meantime PocketTunes could learn a bit from the directory view in TCPMP. The filters are cute, but give me the option to just go and select a file! It may be fine for an SD, but you get a fair amount of MP3 on the LifeDrive and it's just a mess!
RE: No TCPMP again.
corecodec @ 12/19/2005 7:59:10 PM # Q
http://www.corecodec.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=29&topic=2288.msg14277;topicseen#msg14277

"An Open Letter to PalmSource"

First... I would like to thank the community who had tried to vote for TCPMP during the PalmSource Poweredup Awards, we at CoreCodec and the Developers of The Core Pocket Media Player value and thank you for your continued support.

We would like to point out some 'non-bitter' obvious things (or in this case not obvious) to PalmSource and why we think their PoweredUp Awards and the process for judging IS WAY BEHIND THE TIMES and note that their purchase by of ACCESS Co., Ltd, has not changed their way of thinking one bit.

PALM POWEREDUP AWARDS FACTS
- No Open Source Software is allowed
- PalmSource was to announce winners Dec 14 but pushed it to Dec 19th, why?
- The contest is built with one purpose in mind, push closed source products

I am 100% behind the fact that a business like PalmSource wants to push products to potentially generate revenue for their third party software vendors. The Poweredup Awards are a great way to do so, but the reality is that there is substantially better open source software then the current winners from this years awards and that these Open Source Projects could use the same amount of advertising and revenue that their closed source competitors have.

I am simply stating that "PalmSource might want to get with the times and truely adopt (or even recognize) Open Source in their process flow and let the Palm Community speak the truth on what is actually good software!"

There is a happy medium to be had... but to SNUB Open Source in general and to have been aquired by a company that openly embraces it and the freedom it brings... says nothing for this contest.. and the time to change has come, not today, but yesterday.

RE: No TCPMP again. The "Awards" are MEANINGLESS.
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 12/20/2005 1:13:55 AM # Q
If these awards refuse to recognize the BEST apps (PERIOD) then they are a total waste of time.

TCPMP has done more for advancing PalmOS as potentially a useful multimedia environment than ANY other app, PERIOD. Palm should be throwing money at Picard and thanking him profusely for his incredible ongoing efforts. Instead, that traditional Palm attitude surfaces: "fcuk anyone who is a small developer".

Way to go, PalmSource. Idiots.

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RE: No TCPMP again.
WareW01f @ 12/20/2005 9:47:22 AM # Q
OK, a few points here. The first of which, from the results page there where "Over 4,000 nominations submitted" And rightfully so, if you are a developer, why not submit your own app? But with 8 winners, your odds are not so good out of the gate. The next little tidbit would be from PalmGear.com under "Pocket Tunes MP3 Player 3.1.1" there is a little comment that states "Total Downloads: 113936" add to that the number of units (like my LifeDrive) sold with Pocket Tunes in the ROM.

Lets not be sour here. Again, how many people *know* that TCPMP exists? I use it, I show it to anyone I can, but I've found that unless I tell them, most people don't know about it. That and let's at least let it get to a 1.0 version before we start worrying about it competing folks! I'm sorry, but I still use PocketTunes for audio and TCPMP for video. There are a few simple things like playlist management that put don't exist in TCPMP.

Apples to apples folks, finish it, ship it, *then* worry about winning popularity contests.

RE: No TCPMP again.
sfgiant @ 12/20/2005 12:49:56 PM # Q
So a quick point. The powered up awards were for US companies right? I think TCPMP was a Hungarian project no?

RE: No TCPMP again.
hkklife @ 12/20/2005 3:32:58 PM # Q
Palm has made great strides over the past three years but they STILL need to improve the OOBE seeing as how the "average" Palm user never installs any 3rd party software. If they DO then they probably don't do much other than whatever they can pull off of the software CD palm throw into the box.

Palm needs to play up something along the lines of a guy squinting at the 1.5" LCD on his new digital camera. He pops the SD card out and into his Palm and suddenly gets a lovely full-screen image to look at. He then SPEEDILY (again, Palm, SPEEDILY--no screen redraws creeping along!) flips through a bunch of thumbnails and finds what he's looking for. Bonus: include some decent codec support in the box with "Media" (what you'll call TCPMP after you license/buy it from Picard) so that users can stick their SD cards in and look at the MPEG movies they just shot on the "big screen".

This is all doable under FrankenGarnet with MINIMAL $ expenditure and current hard/software. Everyone I know either has a digicam or is getting one this year for Christmas. If Kodak can sell scores of their little photviewer thingies at $100+ )(nothing more than a dumb SD reader with a 2.5" LCD) then that makes the TX & E2 look all the more compelling for the asking prices!

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RE: No TCPMP again.
joad @ 12/27/2005 8:29:22 PM # Q
Sad to say, but "TCPMP" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. "Pocket Tunes" is a name that gives me a pretty good idea what it does.

I love and use TCPMP and many other Open Source stuff wherever I can. However, there seems to be a certain "Geek Snobbery" that prevails when naming stuff and creating a GUI, TCPMP being a prime example.

If you want people to know about your product, don't name it a crazy 5-letter acronym then complain that "nobody knows about it". Call it something like "PDA Multiplayer," "SeeHear Player," "Audio/Video Buttloader" or anything people can get a visual image about WTF it does.

IMHO TCPMP has the potential to replace every multimedia application I have if it could license a few codecs and stream. But for now it's simply in the PDA Geek Ghetto, and I'm sure the commercial authors love it that way.

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No Win for ShrkMsg, Dag

twizza @ 12/19/2005 5:52:16 PM # Q
HOnestly, this program should have won it easily just on shear doing of it when it said that it wasnt able to be done. I know I voted a few times but its ok, Tyler did a great job.

Dmitry and Tyler should have gotten special awards because of age and skill in the face of these larger companies making apps.

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Giving cash to Open Source can be dificult

Tamog @ 12/21/2005 1:35:42 PM # Q
Hi,
JUST TO PUT ONE THING CLEAR IN ADVANCE:

I fully understand all of you whio are angry that TCPMP didn't win, I am a bit angry too as it is an insanely well done player.

However, keep in mind that this is an opensource project and that giving cash can be a bit difficult here. But why post stuff here two times-find my full oppinion here:

http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2005/12/21/on-corecodecs-open-letter/

Best regards
Tam Hanna

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