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RE: Congratulations
I noticed the comments change as well, and that makes for a very readable change. Very nice.
Keep up the great work Ryan. By no means is it easy running a site like this by yourself, but you really do amaze me in how you are able to do so.
Peace and blessings.
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RE: Congratulations
It might not be the "mythical color HandEra", but I'm liking my TX anyway.
One more feature I'd like to see!
-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + S710a
RE: One more feature I'd like to see!
-Ryan
Excellent!
(One thing: still waiting for the ability to at least change the primary color, e.g., blue instead of gray, if not full skin-ability. :))
Thanks again!!
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Here's hoping we get more of them in the future to come
My peeve is not having to relogin even tho my PIC says I'm clearly alr logged in. It's a smalls improvement, but sometimes the smallest ones are the ones that are most appreciated :)
"Do you know the difference between an error and a mistake? Anyone can make an error, but that error doesn't become a mistake until you refuse to correct it."
-Grand Admiral Thrawn
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My PDAs: Visor --> Visor Neo (blue) --> Zire 71 --> Tungsten T3 (with 4 of 6 screws still remaining) ~?~> zodiac 2?
RE: Here's hoping we get more of them in the future to come
Is it with the news comments or are you talking about the Forum area? I'd like to clear this up.
-Ryan
RE: Here's hoping we get more of them in the future to come
I have the same problem.
Say I have PIC running in two windows. One window has (IE6, btw) front page open. The other page has the forums open. I make a post to the front page. No problems. I then go to the other window and make a post and it says "You are logged into the forums". I have to then clear cookies or log in/out several times to clear everythign up. Or it just resolves itself within a day or two. But there have been several times when I wanted to reply to a forum thread and was unable to because it wasn't seeing me as logged in. Front page works fine 99.99% of the time. For me it's a forum-specific bug.
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RE: Here's hoping we get more of them in the future to come
I know it's not a solution, but I find that refreshing the forum page and/or clicking on a link within the forum will then recognize you as being logged in.
I am not aware of any login issues with the news/articles so if there is something going on with that let me know as well.
-Ryan
RE: Here's hoping we get more of them in the future to come
Periodically in very long threads in the news forum, there appears grey boxes that cover text. The boxes appear to be something like greyed out banner adds that just randomly sit somewhere on top of someone's post. Refreshing doesn't do any good; they are still there.
It hadn't happened for a long time, but then showed up again in the Access Linux Platform Demo Screenshots thread. I think the pattern is that I am viewing all the posts for a paticular article and the overall page length has become very long. For instance, I can duplicate it right now by opening this link:
http://www.palminfocenter.com/comments/8399/#119493
(Hmm, come to think of it, I just noticed which post that is obscuring, so maybe that's just part of your new system; it's not a bug, it's a feature.) :-)
FWIW, I'm using Win98 with Firefox 1.5.0.1 on this particular machine.
It might not be the "mythical color HandEra", but I'm liking my TX anyway.
RE: Here's hoping we get more of them in the future to come
RE: Here's hoping we get more of them in the future to come
It might not be the "mythical color HandEra", but I'm liking my TX anyway.
RE: Here's hoping - actually no way off-topic
However, Internet Explorer too forEVER, displaying the top junk and a banner ad, with lots of whitespace below. After I fifnished typing THIS post the rest showed up but IE did NOT jump to the appropriate post.
Weird.
RE: Here's hoping we get more of them in the future to come
Who knows?
It might not be the "mythical color HandEra", but I'm liking my TX anyway.
RE: Here's hoping we get more of them in the future to come
Ok, enough posts from me about this.
It might not be the "mythical color HandEra", but I'm liking my TX anyway.
RE: Here's hoping we get more of them in the future to come
RE: Here's hoping we get more of them in the future to come
hey ack, what's this login issue you are talking about?Is it with the news comments or are you talking about the Forum area? I'd like to clear this up.
-Ryan
@admin
I respond to an email concerning a forum reply to a post. I try hitting the button so i can post another to the thread, it says I need to log off and log back in (or that I'm not logged in.... it hasn't happened in a while so I can't remember exactly). However, I go back and see that prior to clicking to reply, I'm clearly logged in as indicated at the top right of the forums page. I usually follow the suggestions to clear this up and it works. Else, lots of clicking, and logging off and back on again will clear it up.
On a perhaps related topic, in the forums again, all my replies have the "Notify me when a reply is posted" option defaulted as off, even tho i did set this to on in my profile/settings. This latter is more of an annoyance to my preferences, but PIC is interesting enough place that I'm OK with it. Would like it resolved, but I've also gotten used to checking that box evertime I make a post on PIC.
Wow. What's happened to Palminfocenter?
I believe Ryan was suckered into wrecking a site that didn't need changing. Now that the Apologists and PalmSource flunkies bullied him into changing Palminfocenter, they can sit back and laugh, waiting to see how long it takes for Palminfocenter to get "PalmStationed".
PalmOS was destroyed by the Palm/PalmSource idiots and the snivelling Apologist lackeys that lick their boots (and a$$es), so I guess it's only appropriate that Palminfocenter falls victim to them as well.
It's telling to note that Beersy was so busy licking the boots (etc.) of every PalmSource employee while at the same time doing his best imitation of Unofficial PalmSource Damage Control Lackey. I see he's been "rewarded" by first Marty Fouts and now PalmSource's David Schlesinger agreeing to give Beersy interviews for his pathetic little blog site that he incessantly advertised here at Palminfocenter (while he simultaneously attacked Ryan and Palminfocenter). He really showed us his true colors.
Looks like the writing's on the wall:
- PalmSource sold to a company that doesn't give a rat's a$$ about developing PalmOS.
- Cobalt and PalmLinux viciously (and IMMEDIATELY) killed off.
- Most PalmOS licensees either gone or about to leave the PalmOS community.
- Developers fleeing the PalmOS platform by the truckload.
- Most of PalmSource's best codemonkeys already moved on to greener pastures.
- PDAs being dumped by major retailers.
- Palm about to slash its PDA lineup in half.
- Palm forced to embrace Windows Mobile, clutching at straws in a desperate attempt to survive.
- Manufacturers and carriers lining up to embrace Windows Mobile.
- No innovative PDAs since the 2004 CLIE VZ90.
- Treos about to face deadly competition from several Windows Mobile smartphones.
- Most PDA sites imploding from lack of interest and fragmentation of the user base.
In retrospect, with as many idiots as Palm had at the helm, the end was somewhat inevitable. Time to stock up on as many Tungsten Tł, Zodiac 2, UX50, TH55 and VZ90 as you can find on eBay, Kiddies: THE PARTY'S OVER.
Thanks for the memories.
TVoR
[No doubt Ryan will delete this post, but it's time someone spoke up and verbalized what I'm sure a LOT of us are thinking.]
RE: Wow. What's happened to Palminfocenter?
Treo's are pretty popular these days, even with the pretty much EOL'd Garnet. But I'm sure if sony ever got around to making a cobalt smartphone you'd be all up on that one.
I have always planned to do more coverage, articles and features but its always a battle with time. The new sw store makes it a lot easier for me to stay on top of what's new & updated, so I have been posting more about new software stuff. I don't expect software news to be as hot topic of a discussion generator like the usual industry news is around here.
RE: Wow. What's happened to Palminfocenter?
You call this drivel 'thinking'?
RE: Wow. What's happened to Palminfocenter?
Don't get me wrong--I'm still predicting (eventual) doom for the classic POS that we all know & love--however, just because an OS & a hardware line are moribund doesn't mean that the fan/user communities are also lining up to go off a cliff behind it. Just look at the Amiga, Spectrum, C64 etc. commmunities still thriving online. And then you have oddball platforms like Newton, Nuon or CD-I that cannot even approach Palm's installed user base but still maintain a rabid following online.
As long as Ryan lets "us" Palm faithful have a highly-trafficked platform (PIC) where we can espouse our views and post our reviews then let's take advantage of it.
Voice, I share many, MANY of your concerns & theories but WE can do our part to prop up PIC--Ryan can only do so much as a one-man show. Post your long-delayed VZ90 vs. everything else review, post a guide on how to regionalize it for Engrish, give a roundup of Samsung POS smartphones-- anything will be welcome!
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RE: Wow. What's happened to Palminfocenter?
If anyone is interested in doing quality in-depth reviews, hardware & software, I encourage you to contact me. I am looking to add more reviewers to the team soon.
PIC will always be a independent community resource for the Palm OS. I have no plans to let it slip into obscurity :)
question...
Using "more..." to indicate that there is more to read in the article
or
Using "Read more..." as I just changed to now?
-Ryan
RE: question...
Just a small question but why have some of your recent posts appeared as "Admin" and others as "Ryan"?
Just wonderin' !
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RE: question...
I will try to use my real name more when replying to comments.
-Ryan
RE: question...
I prefer "read more"
SO leave it like it is now.
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RE: question...
Are you planning any kind of retrospective overview of the past ten years of the Palm/Pilot platform?
Sad that POS is barely...JUST barely...hanging in there long enough to see its tenth full year.
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RE: question...
I also made a change so that when an article has more than 30 comments the text will link to the comment board section for that article.
Also "0 comments" is no longer displayed, because it really doesn't matter if there are no comments.
RE: question...
Surur
They said I only argued for the sake of arguing, but after an hour I convinced them they were wrong...
RE: question...
RE: question...
"View article"
"View full article"
"Full article"
"Continue reading"
Engadget has always simply had a hyperlinked "Read" which I always thought could be spiffier.
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RE: question...
It was an actual Palm device font, does anyone out there have the actual palm pilot font in truetype or know where to get it so I could use on my mac?
RE: question...
Right now I have the # comments text link to the comments board section only when there are 10 or more comments. Do you think that should be a link when there are less? I figure when there is less then 10 comments you would just scan the bottom of the article anyway.
RE: question...
I believe consistency is more important. Most people will be puzzled as to why they can do it with one article, but not another. Thats not "zen"-like. Unless there is a price to pay I suggest make it work the same for all comments.
Surur
They said I only argued for the sake of arguing, but after an hour I convinced them they were wrong...
RE: question...
RE: question...
I love doing that. But then I come for the comments, not the news. Same reason I read slashdot.
May I respectfully suggest there is no need to frustrate your readers?
Surur
They said I only argued for the sake of arguing, but after an hour I convinced them they were wrong...
RE: question...
Or is it attempt to try and get the comments on topic? I notice a distressingly poor correlation between the comments and the articles. Maybe reading the article first would change that? ;)
Surur
They said I only argued for the sake of arguing, but after an hour I convinced them they were wrong...
HELLO???? Anybody there???
The software developers must be cringing when they see how little activity is now occurring at sites like Palminfocenter, Brighthand, 1src, etc. Longtime Palm users like my buddy Mike Cane have left the platform in disgust, frustrated by years of apathy and incompetence by Palm.
PalmOS PDAs had so much potential. Where did it all go wrong? And is it possible to correct Palm's current slide into oblivion? (Addressing those questions would make an excellent editorial.) Palm is now throwing all of its eggs into the smartphone basket, but why can't they STILL understand what it takes to move PDAs/smartphones to the next level? Small size, flashy design, fair price, reliability, reasonable specs. Get the mix right or you're EXTINCT, Palm.
Realistically, Palm needs to focus its dwindling resources on a smaller, better-positioned number of devices:
1) A Z22-level PDA that also can function as an MP3 player.
2) A TH55-level PDA that has almost all the bells and whistles.
3) An small, inexpensive, external antennaless semi-smartphone in a traditional candybar form factor.
4) An external antennaless Treo 700 variant with better styling (all black case, better buttons), stable OS and apps and specs befitting a $500 phone.
And ALL of Palm's models need to ship with apps already installed that will optimize the user experiece. Expecting users to hunt around to find best-of-breed apps for shopping lists, backup, security, photo viewing, file management, MP3 playing, video creation and playback, alarm clock, password storage, etc is ridiculous in 2006. Developers are already giving up on Palm, so Palm needs to face reality: the time has come to license + ship Palms with the best third party apps already installed on their devices. Past experience with Palm buying/licensing MultiMail, Documents To Go, etc prove the company is willing to screw developers of competing apps when it feels it's necessary. It's now necessary.
The Palm Apologists have taken over most of the PDA sites and look what we have now: bupkis, baby. Bupkis. Thanks to dumba$$ apologists, Palm kept shipping the same old crap for so long the company thought they could get away with selling yesterday's re-heated leftovers indefinitely. Had Palm listened to people like Adama Brown, Kent Pribbernow, etc they might have remained a company that actually mattered. Instead, in the past year we've witnessed the savage butchery of PalmOS by Access and Palm's desperate embrace of the Redmond Bear, further undermining the entire PalmOS platform. The Bear gave Colligan a "friendly" hug at the September Treo 700w press conference. I expect Colligan & Palm to be squeezed to death in the near future.
I'd love to hear what all those posters to the LifeDrive contest have to say about the state of affairs of the New Palm eCONomy...
TVoR
RE: HELLO???? Anybody there???
The Palm OS platform is not dying and frankly I'm sick of hearing you say that and personally attacking anyone else who actually sticks up for the platform. There is a way to have a civil discussion and talking about sex or peoples personal lives is not part of that.
The number of comments per a given story has nothing to do with how many people actually read the articles. The hits to comment ratio on most PIC articles is something like 6:1 hits per comment.
RE: HELLO???? Anybody there???
Do you REALLY believe that, Ryan? The evidence seems to be to the contrary:
Device sales; number of new devices; number of active licensees; number of new licensees; developer activity; likelihood of future improvement of the OS; Palm's switch to Windows Mobile... I'm not sure how anyone can honestly believe at this point that PalmOS is NOT dying.
and frankly I'm sick of hearing you say that
You're sick of hearing the truth? Wow.
and personally attacking anyone else who actually sticks up for the platform.
"personally attacking"??? Wow.
OK, Ryan. I think I understand now. Take care.
TVoR
RE: HELLO???? Anybody there???
RE: HELLO???? Anybody there???
I think people can figure things out for themselves, Ryan. As always, this is/was your site to run however you feel/felt it's appropriate. I wish you the best of luck.
Take care.
TVoR
RE: HELLO???? Anybody there???
Insults and flames violate my very clear comment guidelines.
You are welcome to post whatever you like as long as you don't violate the terms.
RE: HELLO???? Anybody there???
RE: HELLO???? Anybody there???
and yes, Skippy, 'attacking' is a fairly accurate assessment of your behavior in many instances. Ryan has given you far more leeway on this board than any other moderator trying to run a family friendly site would have done.
May You Live in Interesting Times
An open letter to TVoR
For many years and, presumably, under several aliases, I and others have (mostly) enjoyed your comments, insight, and wit on PIC. While there are assuredly many PIC members who would you to see you worked over with a rusty pair of pliers and an empty tube of vaseline, I've always appreciated the "no holds barred, no punches pulled" commentary abotu the PalmCONomy and the various missteps & errors our favorite mobile platform has endured over the past 6/5/4/3 years (pick a year when the decline started).
BUT...I have to take odds with your claims that Ryan has somehow let "apologists" moderate the site/news comments. I have been in daily contact with Ryan over the past few weeks and I can ASSURE you that nothing of the sort has happened. If anything, Ryan's commitment to PIC & POS is renewed and reenergized. No matter what happens to the Palm companies, I think Ryan & PIC are here for the long haul.
PIC is not in Palm (or anyone's) pocket. It is and remains and independent website. No one's getting rich off of PIC but it's a successful site and (IMO) one of the most unbiased, valuable resources online.
Voice, Ryan/I/some other PIC members appreciate your well-worded posts and your acerbic wit. You're obviously in touch with the mentality at the Palm(s) and the "scene" in general. Such a combination of industry knowledge & the ability to post engaging, witty repartee make you a valuable addition to PIC, so long as you can keep the overtly sexual insults/threats/people's home addresses off of the site.
PIC will be a more valuable place with you posting your wit/insight/commentary instead of in exile or banned (let the flames begin).
For the record, Ryan is willing to talk to you about all of this. He enjoys your posts--just not the X-rated inflammatory comments. The occasional good-natured jabs or Gekko-isms are fine (I really doubt David minds (at this point) being called "Beersie") but just keep it tasteful and decently moderated.
I'm glad to help PIC out in whatever way I can, whether it be submitting news stories, offering my usual combination of criticism/advice or just contributing software & hardware news and views on a weekly basis. If you want to go ahead and post that long awaited Engrishized VZ90 review or VZ vs. LD comparison PLEASE do so. There is a time and place for everything (even brawlin', gangbangin' creampies) so if you stll feel it necessary to spit venom then by all means start a blog like Slam's and let us know the URL.
This is all I'll say on the manner (after keeping mum on it for the longest while). Again, ryan at palminfocenter.com if you wanna talk to the man in charge.
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-Ryan
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Congratulations on successfully updating the site without changing the unique look and feel (unlike the rather unreadable new design at PalmAddict)
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They said I only argued for the sake of arguing, but after an hour I convinced them they were wrong...