Comments on: New Palm Centro Picture Posted
Palm has previously confirmed that the Centro will feature a new, smaller form-factor, EVDO high speed data and a touch screen display. A recent rumor report has indicated the Centro could be released by Sprint around October 14th.
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RE: Better than the white version!
I thought the white version was UGLY but this gray-black one looks pretty sleek. And with $99 cost i might buy it for someone as a gift.
RE: Better than the white version!
I'm not at all familiar with cellphones and pricing, but this seems like a low price to me for the proposed features. Is it?
RE: Better than the white version!
http://tinyurl.com/2rulu8
Maybe we'll get a p1i look alike ;-)
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lipstick on a pig?
I tend toward favoring battery life, readability, ergonomics, reliability, build quality and internal specifications. Nice that it seems to have EVDO Rev A - was that technology too fresh to put in the recently released 755 (their $650 smartphone)?
I friggin like it!!!
as i posted before, i like this tiny, modern new Treo!!!!!
my questions -
1. how can they make any money on it at $99 even with carrier subsidies??? have we reached true commoditization of the smartphone?
2. will this smartphone be weak in terms of specs and features? I need a decent level of RAM, processing speed, software, features, etc.
3. if it's priced cheap and spec'd out, won't it cannibalize the Treo lineup? there must be a catch somewhere.
4. i REALLY like the look/form factor - and assuming it has power specs/features, i'd pay up to $399 for it.
RE: I friggin like it!!!
p.s. it's about time Palm created something like this - IMO, they are about 2 years late. but i like it!!! the question is, is it too little too late?
RE: I friggin like it!!!
It wouldn't stop me, personally, from an iPhone, but I can see it going to people who want to upgrade current phones and those who think the iPhone is too expensive.
RE: I friggin like it!!!
Looks really cool though. I might even pursuade my wife to get one to replace her T/E2. I'll stick with my 680 until they bring out a 3G (high speed internet) Treo with Palm os.
IHMO you can'r just give away equal points when comparing the treo to the iphone etc. the keyboard makes this a truely one handed device. I've used winmob and I can tell you that using a stylus to scribe txt messages is a pain!
RE: I friggin like it!!!
If I would compare this to anything, it'd be either something from Samsung or Nokia.
If Palm really is setting a new price point for this category, it's those two companies that will feel it.
RE: I friggin like it!!!
I wonder if they give a discount on a CentroFoleo combo ;-)
I'd go for that!
RE: I friggin like it!!!
"Many men stumble across the truth, but most manage to pick themselves up
and continue as if nothing had happened."
- Winston Churchill
RE: I friggin like it!!! until you find out the details!
Let's see....It will have a 200 MZ processor, VGA camera without video recording, 32 MB RAM, 240 by 240 screen, buggy beta Linux OS, no WiFi, defective didgitizer, 900 mAh battery,.....yep, it's a Palm alright.
RE: I friggin like it!!!
I also predict that Palm will sell a bundle of a free Centro w/ purchase of a Fooleo via Palm.com...but only after the Fooleo's $100 MIR launch promo expires.
Price will be $99 w/ contract, $300 unlocked/full retail.
Since I'm in a predictive mood, I'll also go out on a limb and say that Palm will EOL the Treo 680, 700p/wx and Tungsten E2 this fall and drop the Z22 down to $75. We won't see a CDMA WM6 Treo until 2008 and they will refresh the 750 mid-life with WM6 pre-installed starting in October or so.
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Looks good in the pic, but looks can be deceiving
They also used a screenshot that fills the whole screen, adding to the illusion of a rectangle screen.
The device really looks slick in this photo, great job palm! A much better color scheme than in those blurry pics earler this summer. If I wasn't waiting for palm os II this would be a very tempting device. My 4 year old T3 can probably wait out 1 more year for a smartphone upgrade.
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Palm leaking?
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/picture-exclusive/palm-centro-leaked-official-shot-293414.php
Is Palm engaged in official leaking now?
Whoa -- they know the big World Wide Web exists now? Doesn't that deserve a headline too?
RE: Palm leaking?
RE: Palm leaking?
> Philippines of past PDAs (the pre-Treo days) were not
> Palm leaks...
Ya sure?
Giggle.
Ed Colligan's Soliloquy
Now look at them.
Praising -- praising! -- the Centro.
The Centro that was all *my* baby. Me, mine, me, I wanted that.
And now they applaud.
Fear me.
RE: operating system
RE: operating system
"Many men stumble across the truth, but most manage to pick themselves up
and continue as if nothing had happened."
- Winston Churchill
RE: operating system
1. Don't conclude that it's not running a Linux OS because the leak pic has a Palm OS app on it...the Linux OS should run legacy Palm OS apps.
2. Don't conclude that it's not running a Linux OS just because it may not be a flagship Treo series:
a. Great way to build a new phone line.
b. Linux OS should require less power which is a premium in smaller devices.
Oh the pain of longing.
But then again, my way too big thumbs and my way too old eyes both tell me that there is likely little chance I can be happy trying to use this smartphone, particularly as a PDA replacement. Minimally, if the keyboard were just the standard twelve number keys I could at least use it as cell phone replacement that "just happened" to run Palm OS. That'd be kinda cool. But I'm very concerned that I wouldn't even be able to use this keyboard for dialing numbers. Predictive typing on a 12 button keypad is quite functional as well. Why not just do that? And if the $99 price with contract were true, this is a great deal. They just might have a winner on their hands.
Oh the pain. Again, Palm is close to making a smartphone that I might actually buy. But it just falls short. Why must they always have a qwerty keyboard?
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RE: Oh the pain of longing.
Maybe Fooleo, part II, will control a keyboardless "smart"phone.
Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
Now, on to the real purpose of this device. The app on-screen tells it all. Palm is going after the youth texting craze. Maybe in a big way. It looks like tabbed apps that brings AOL+WMsngr+Yahoo all together at once. No more friends here and fiends there. Tie it all together in one place with a full keyboard.
Is Palm going to have an AOL, MSN, Yahoo, probably ICQ etc etc app running? Doubtful. Keeping all that up to date would be worse than a Windows desktop. I think they are going to do this all Web2.0 style on Palm.net and simply use the smartfone as the generic "dumb device". But since the servers do all the work, this dumbphone brings everyone together, regardless of where they are, on a PC or phone.
Is this the big thing that the official mentioned?
How on GGE is the same Palm, that apparently can't leverage WiFi with the carriers, going to do something without the carrier ringing the texting register? Or, will Palm+carrier charge for this?
This phone may run Palm OS (Rev A? Hmmm?), but it will not appeal to hardcore PDA geeks found round here. This is a completely different market. One that may like the little orange, the colored phone, and the Palm Pilot legacy. Hey they also have no clue about the horrible tortures their customers have endured recently either. And that's a good thing, right?
Maybe I presume way to much here and just need to go to bed.
Pat Horne
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
Also, it is Palm OS. See the little house button, the cheesy 1990s scroll bar, and the font. Somehow it's Palm OS. Hopefully Garnet, since I hope they do something better with the scrolls on POS2 after 13 years.
Pat Horne
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
Palm is going after the youth texting craze.
So I showed my daughter (17) the pic and asked her what she thought of it. She said, "What's with all those keys?" I explained that it was a full keyboard instead of just a number pad. She asked, "Why?" I responded that it would make things like text messaging easier. She responded, "But the keys are too small." Then she concluded with, "It might be OK for you, but it's too complicated."
Of course she hasn't seen the actual size of the thing, but her perception is that the keys are too small. So if she thinks so, I can imagine that my own impression that they will be way too small is probably not far off from reality. But I will play with one the first chance I get in the hope that I can somehow use the thing. We'll see.
So then I'm thinking that maybe I can just use an on-screen number pad and ignore the keypad. But then I'm thinking that I'm right back where I started, wanting a TX sized screen without a keyboard. Try as I might, I just can't make this Treo/Centro thing work for me.
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RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
Rip out the qwerty, install numpad and T9 (which means internationalization in software), and this phone could avtually be a HUGE success. There are no other phones out there with touch screen and numpad. This could be used one handed, as well as two handed with it's touch screen. The closest competitor would be the htc 710 (no touch screen, but slide out keyboard), and is already a huge success. With the old, but snappy Garnet compared with wm, there would be no camparison.
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
Well, let's see what happens.
If it flops, it would be a bad wound for Palm. Possibly the worst.
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
Agree with an earlier post about the youth market....my teenage son can text on a normal keypad as fast as any qwerty keyboard. The closest my son would go to an extended keyboard would be the Blackberry Pearl. Qwerty is just not too cool with the teen market from what I gather.
rpa
Palm Pilot >> Palm Tungsten E user
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
Things change in the kid market. It just takes the c00lezt kidz to adopt something for everyone else to follow suit.
Plus, if they can get a TV character using one of these things, that'd help too.
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
rpa
Palm Pilot >> Palm Tungsten E user
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
>the touchscreen.
You read my mind! That would give you a decent (if smallish) sized screen. Add in a some good media apps. and you have a poor man's iphone.
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
But soon one is coming, the W960. A full featured smart walkman phone with a real processor and more ram, making it work properly. Numpad and touch screen. This one will be very popular, at least it is highly antissipated. All in all it will basicly be a centro with numpad running symbian instead of garnet, or an iPhone with numpad, or more correct; what the W950 should have been in the first place.
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
rpa
Palm Pilot >> Palm Tungsten E user
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
Note to Palm: can you just copy this?
rpa
Palm Pilot >> Palm Tungsten E user
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
Concerning the size of the keys.......yup, thats what I need to check out when it comes out. A bit smaller than my 755p I can handle. A LOT smaller, ummm dunno. Do all of you remember when the treo 600 came out, and all those reviewers said the keyboard was too small? BS, it worked great. The shape of the keys was the "key."
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
rpa
Palm Pilot >> Palm Tungsten E user
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
Sorry guys, the qwerty keyboard is the REASON for the treo.
So why aren't you using a Blackberry?
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RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
iPod?
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
Well, lack of internationalization is THE reason why Treos and Blackberrys are almost nonexistant outside US/UK. It is also THE reason why Nokia E61i (full qwerty) and Nokia communicators along with the HTC line of products is preferred by 9 out of 10 people that want qwerty in a global perspective. Qwerty is great for writing email, but as far as smartphones goes, email is just one tiny little aspect that a small percentage actually wants, and those who wants it want to use native letters.
iPhone with it's software keyboard (easy to internationalize) will make it totally impossible for any treo and blackberry outside US/UK.
What i'm saying is that a Centro with a numpad will suddenly have a market 10 times larger than a Centro with an english qwerty. Nokia, SE, Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Apple, LG - EVERYBODY - understands this, except Palm and Blackberry.
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
All phones can be used for texting but it is by far and away Blackberries for mobile email in Asia. The fact that GSM technology is universal (except in Japan and Korea) means people can roam internationally w/o any hassles.
rpa
Palm Pilot >> Palm Tungsten E user
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
rpa
Palm Pilot >> Palm Tungsten E user
RE: Killer App ... Market .. Big Thang?
Spot on to my point of a diverse market among youth. Even though Apple has wins today's image trophy, not every youth buys the same "iPod." So Apple makes different models, colors, etc. And there is even another 30% of market who buy a different kind of MP3 player other than an iPod. The overall youth market (not just tech toys) is actually more complex than the adult market...to the tune of $85 billion a year and growing.
Can't wait!
Something to get EXCITED about!
You know... as a long time Palm fan (since my Pilot 5000) all I REALLY want is a new Palm product that I can get excited about. Unfortunately this "Centro" is NOT it.
Where is a new version of the T/X... or Palms version of the large screened iPhone??
oh well.
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Better than the white version!
In all fairness, EVDO Rev. A & a touchscreen for $99 w/ contract is not too bad of a deal at all, regardless of what the rest of the specs are. I'd love to know what the price for the phone purchaed at full retail will be. Probably $300 ish?
Now that an official pic has been leaked, I want to see some official looking specs on this thing!
I think the three crucial areas are going to end up being: keyboard usability & size, screen legibility & size, and battery life. I've seen my 700p churn through a 2400mAh Seidio battery in a day in intermittent reception areas so i'm really worried about the Centro's battery life. Multimedia SHOULD also be at least decently represented (3.5mm stereo headphone jack & full version of PTunes standard) but that's a very un-Palm-like thing to do.
Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P