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8GB SDHC CardAccording to this TreoCentral thread, several users are reporting mostly successful results with their Treo 680s and the new 8gb SDHC cards. These cards represent the peak of SD-related flash storage media and onoy recently have seen their prices drop to an affordable level, plummeting in price over the past several weeks.

The Treo 680, Palm's most recent Palm OS-based device and its newest product overall, can read and write to 8gb SDHC cards without problems. However, the Palm OS "card info" screens only display the card as having 3.9gb free out of 3.9gb total. Once passing the 4gb barrier on the cards, the proper amount of free space is properly indicated.

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Famous Palm OS Vampire almost went up in smoke.

VampireLestat @ 12/20/2006 12:22:21 AM # Q
The building 20 feet from my place burned down this afternoon. :-( Smoke damage, but luckily my building did not burn.

Anyway, I am still alive and ready to buy a TX2; WHICH I HOPE SUPPORTS 8 GB!

It really burns me (no pun intended) that the Treo gets all the attention these days.

RE: Famous Palm OS Vampire almost went up in smoke.
hkklife @ 12/20/2006 1:03:57 AM # Q
Vamp;

We have ZERO indication that a TX2 is forthcoming other than Frank Wilkinson's conversation with a Palm tech support person and the (overly optimistic?) gut feeling & intuition of some of the Palm OS PDA faithful.

I've bought a 2nd TX to have on standby, just in case the TX really is the end of the line.

Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

RE: Famous Palm OS Vampire almost went up in smoke.
VampireLestat @ 12/20/2006 1:47:54 AM # Q
hk:

You don't have to stock up on TXs just yet. If Palm announces that it is stopping TX production and not making a TX|2, there will still be plenty of stock in the channels for many weeks.

I do however use a T5 as a backup to my Tx.

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Nice!

freakout @ 12/20/2006 1:03:14 AM # Q
Upon reading that thread, I've placed a bid on eBay for a new Transcend 8GB card.

LifeDrive, eat your heart out...

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Hmmm

t3h @ 12/20/2006 1:34:13 AM # Q
Hope Dmitry fiddles with this and gets these cards going on the TX.

I do however, have a bad feeling that Palm's handheld line is disappearing. I'm sure as hell not getting a PocketPC though...

Although, let's hope those rumours coming out of Apple are true!

Palm TX + 1GB SD + Motorola v3x = awesomeness

RE: Hmmm
VampireLestat @ 12/20/2006 1:49:34 AM # Q
I don't like Apple. They are pro DRM, arrogant, and they don't deserve the iPod success. Palm should of owned that entire market for years with PDAs that play music and thousands of other programs. Palm was SO close to getting it right.

RE: Hmmm
freakout @ 12/20/2006 2:45:54 AM # Q
I'm sure Apple would much rather have been selling DRM-free tracks. So would any online music vendor, really. It's more about keeping the record labels happy than anything else. Amusingly, by insisting on DRM, they've effectively locked themselves out of controlling the digital download business and ceded all the power to Apple. Now Apple have a near-monopoly on both digital players and music, which is partly thanks to iPod lock-in via DRM.

And the record companies? They can't do the things they want to do, like variable pricing (a questionable notion at best, considering that digital distribution means the "Supply" has been removed from "Supply & Demand"). Apple for all intents and purposes is the market, and they'll sell the music however they please. If a label decides to try anything silly like withdrawing their music from the iTunes Store, all they'll succeed in doing is nuking their own digital sales figures and giving a free kick to rival labels who stuck with Apple.

The market's still in its infancy and Apple's domination will eventually be eroded. Most likely by Microsoft, I'm guessing: the first Zune is a fairly laughable effort, but MS are famous for starting out with a bare-bones, generally crappy product and building on it relentlessly in the "Money means nothing" fashion that only MS can do. Look at the Xbox 360, for instance. Or even Windows.

And personally, while not a fan of Apple, I think they deserve their success: the iPod was marketed well and is quite a decent value for its price. I do think Jobs is an arrogant turtleneck-wearing jerk and the nasty side of me can't wait to see one of his creations bomb miserably, just to explode the myth that's built up around him...

Tim
I apologise for any and all emoticons that appear in my posts. You may shoot them on sight.
Treo 270 ---> Treo 650 ---> Crimson Treo 680

RE: Hmmm
joad @ 12/20/2006 2:53:37 AM # Q
Palm hasn't even figured out how to get a standard audio jack into their $600.00 Treo line. Well over 3 years since the first one capable of decent multimedia was released and we're still relying on jack-destroying adapters in order to kludge in a decent headset.

Apple may be as arrogant as any corporation, and they don't even have FM radio built in by their 5th generation... but at least they know what size a friggin' audio jack should be. That might explain a bit about their success, and a lot about why the Treo is still missing it's potential as a streaming audio and video device in spite of having EVDO built in now...

RE: Hmmm
freakout @ 12/20/2006 3:17:16 AM # Q
$600.00 Treo line

...$399 Treo line, or free with contract...

RE: Hmmm
vorlon @ 12/20/2006 4:06:53 AM # Q
Palm hasn't even figured out how to get a standard audio jack into their $600.00 Treo line.

Standard audio jack in a cell phone? What phone has one? 2,5 mm jack is pretty common in handsfrees, but many cell phone companies still use stupid, propietary, easily broken connectors like "Fast port" etc.

Now even Nokia has a new 2,5 mm jack:
http://www.nokia.fi/puhelimet/puhelinmallit/5200/

RE: Hmmm
Surur @ 12/20/2006 5:42:36 AM # Q

The Sony Ericsson Walkman series obviously have full 3.5 mm headphone jacks, as do my HTC Universal, as does the Loox T830. Its not as uncommon as you suppose.

Surur

They said I only argued for the sake of arguing, but after an hour I convinced them they were wrong...
Hey!! I made associate writer at PDA247. Come see my nattering over there!!
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RE: Hmmm
freakout @ 12/20/2006 5:54:55 AM # Q
Palm sticking to 2.5mm jacks on Treos made sense for awhile, but Bluetooth headsets are pretty widespread nowadays and have made the need for compatibility with handsfree kits less important. Of course, a lot of Treo owners probably have 2.5mm headsets now. Maybe they don't want to break with compatibility - it's pretty cool that the same accessories work across five different models.

Even if that was the case, though, I'd rather they just bite the bullet and make the change. Not like they haven't broken backwards compatibility before. ;)

Tim
I apologise for any and all emoticons that appear in my posts. You may shoot them on sight.
Treo 270 ---> Treo 650 ---> Crimson Treo 680

RE: Hmmm
joad @ 12/20/2006 5:10:21 PM # Q
>>Standard audio jack in a cell phone?

"intarweb" in a "cell phone"? "e-mail" in a "cell phone"? "Palm Operating System" in a "cell phone"?... If the Treo is just a "cell phone" then WTF does all the advertising Palm plasters about seem to indicate that it's at least a little bit more?

When it suits Palm, they call it a "smartphone," and IMHO it isn't too "smart" to design such a device so a kludge (which puts your "cell phone" jack at serious risk of damage) is necessary to access MP3s and streaming audio - or is the included Pockettunes just something they are marketing to listen to through the speaker or that throwaway headset they include....?

>>Bluetooth headsets are pretty widespread nowadays and have made the need for compatibility with handsfree kits less important.

Considering the well documented fact that the Treo bluetooth drops even their own bluetooth headset at random - they better NOT remove the 2.5mm port! Unless your only calls are "listen only" and that through the built-in speaker!

>$600.00 Treo line
>>...$399 Treo line, or free with contract...

http://web.palm.com/products/communicators/config/carrier_sprint.jhtml?_requestid=67905

OOPS - I meant *$649.00*, not $600.00. Or perhaps you can cite a reliable source to walk in with $399 cash and walk out with a CMDA Sprint Treo without taking on a contract?

Just because they "give" you a rebate up front when you agree to a 2 year contract doesn't mean the phone is that price - that's foolish thinking. They are giving you a "discount" off the retail price of that phone because you agreed to a contract with them where they will make multiples of that rebate money back from you over a couple years - it's built into the plan. Sure, there are scams and retention plans and other ways to drop the prices - but the MSRP is the basis they are telling you it's "worth" in order to make the "discounts" palatable. Or did you think the Carriers were just being nice to you?

If you believe that the price of your undercoating was "free" (and by the way you had to buy a new car in order to get it) then I wish I were selling new cars in your vicinity - I'll give you all the "free undercoating" you want!



RE: Hmmm
freakout @ 12/20/2006 5:56:10 PM # Q
joad:
When it suits Palm, they call it a "smartphone," and IMHO it isn't too "smart" to design such a device so a kludge (which puts your "cell phone" jack at serious risk of damage) is necessary to access MP3s and streaming audio - or is the included Pockettunes just something they are marketing to listen to through the speaker or that throwaway headset they include....?

http://software.palminfocenter.com/homeAccessories.asp?hCategory=1012&hSubcategory=141
http://mytreo.net/store/section.php?xSec=34
http://store.treocentral.com/content/accessories/11-29.htm
http://shop.treonauts.com/content/accessories/73.htm

There's a number of good 2.5mm headsets available. I'd like 3.5mm headsets too, but there's practical problems: if you're using a standard 3.5mm headset (i.e. no mic) and a call drops in, then you have to unplug the bugger in order to speak to the other person.

I'd like to see an option so you can set the phone to output via the jack, but input via the mic on the Treo.

Considering the well documented fact that the Treo bluetooth drops even their own bluetooth headset at random - they better NOT remove the 2.5mm port! Unless your only calls are "listen only" and that through the built-in speaker!

It's fixed in the 680. The 680 will even automatically connect to your headset when you're in range, without having to touch anything. Patch on the way for the 700p.

joad:
$600.00 Treo line

freakout quietly corrected:
...$399 Treo line, or free with contract...

joad:
http://web.palm.com/products/communicators/config/carrier_sprint.jhtml?_requestid=67905

I'll see your 700p, and raise you an unlocked 680:
http://web.palm.com/products/smartphones/treo680/unlocked.jhtml

Rebates suck, but if you can be bothered with them then you CAN get a free product. Yes, there's normally an expensive plan involved, but if they're not to your liking there's still the $199 price being offered standard by Cingular.

RE: Hmmm
t3h @ 12/22/2006 12:17:56 AM # Q
>I don't like Apple.
>They are pro DRM,
The music labels that they have to please to get the rights to sell the movie are the pro DRM ones, I think you'll find. The only major music store that doesn't use DRM is allofmp3... and they're not exactly legit, are they? I mean, let's compare them to Microsoft - look at the Zune. That's DRMed to all hell.

>arrogant,
Not really, but that's a kind-of baseless claim.

>and they don't deserve the iPod success.
How so? They made the first decent hard disk based MP3 player - the first one with a decent UI, fast syncing (first to have firewire), and the first truly usable product. It's not just a coincidence.

>Palm should of owned that entire market for years with PDAs that play music
Even though that's what I use my TX for, I still have to admit it's not the best solution - it's got less storage, less battery life, and is nowhere near as simple. But it has it's advantages (like internet radio).

>Palm was SO close to getting it right
Umm, they've kinda been screwing things up more or less since Palm OS 5. Beats Windows Mobile, but it ain't nice, and could be a lot better.

Palm TX + 1GB SD + Motorola v3x = awesomeness

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700p???

joad @ 12/20/2006 1:44:41 AM # Q
Any reports on the 700p working with one of these? If so, I finally have something to say when someone asks what I want for christmas....

RE: 700p???
hkklife @ 12/20/2006 9:43:09 AM # Q
Joad;

I thought someone as edumacated and possessing such erudite wit as yourself would at least have read the full text of my news item before asking about 700p compatibility!

;-)

3rd paragraph of the news item:

"My personal testing with the exact same Transcend 8gb SDHC card on my Treo 700p and Palm TX proved to be utterly fruitless--the Treo 680 is the only Palm device currently offering even unofficial support for SDHC cards."


The 8gb SDHC card isn't even recognized as being inserted in the slot in my TX or my 700p. It works flawlessly on my Casio EX-Z850 digital camera. I'm actually in the process of preparing a full roundup & survey of which devices (between all of the SD slot-brandishing devices in my personal collection & whatever is at work)


Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

RE: 700p???
joad @ 12/20/2006 5:35:22 PM # Q
>>Joad; I thought someone as edumacated and possessing such erudite wit as yourself would at least have read the full text of my news item before asking about 700p compatibility!

Guilty! So much for multitasking while skimming, you miss things sometimes. And I even went through 5 pages of the referenced thread at T|C without success before posting!

Hey - thanks for the compliments, though at the moment I'm at my wit's end.

RE: 700p???
joad @ 12/20/2006 5:42:11 PM # Q
Ah - figured out what happened: for some odd reason PIC truncates the story in some views. Weird. But I'll wear your comments anyway - I'll miss something else soon!

RE: 700p???
hkklife @ 12/20/2006 8:14:24 PM # Q
I know that when you're looking at the mobile version of PIC, the later parts of the news item are truncated when in "comments view" mode, yes.

Is that when it's happening to you? Are you reading it on your Treo w/ Blazer or on a full-size PC + browser?

I think Ryan does it that way just to save bandwidth/space/scrolling on smaller mobile device screens.

Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

RE: 700p???
joad @ 12/22/2006 1:00:11 AM # Q
I'm reading on a PC at the moment - this URL: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comments/9158/#128451

You think you are looking at the entire article, but you aren't...

Seems that there are 2 article views possible - but they look very similar except for the amount of story showing and the "return to story" stylized silver/black/white button that is hard to read on an LCD screen.

Time has made the 700p question moot I think, as people are reporting success with the SDHC driver transfer 680->700p. Yeah!!

RE: 700p???
garyterr @ 6/11/2007 12:52:20 PM # Q
I have tried to do the procedure a thousand times and it jus isn't workin! Maybe someone can give me some insight. I loaded the SDIO-sdsd.prc to a stan SD card then copied it to my ROM and then did a soft reset yet it still wouldn't read. I've spent money on this Transcend HCSD and I don want it to go to waste.

PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME!

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Mobile manager on Treo 680?

grimpeur @ 12/20/2006 4:03:49 AM # Q
I use a LifeDrive at the moment and one of the things that I founf most useful is the Mobile Manager software that allows me to Sync files between the LifeDrive and my PC.

Given that we now have 8GB SDHC cars that are compatible with the Treo 680, this device suddenly seems very attractive!! What I would be interested to know though is if there is a similar app available for the Treo 680 that allows you to Sync folders on your PC with folders on the SD card, now that would be a killer app. Failing that, is it possible to grab the prcs off the LifeDrive that work with the PC software and install them on a 680. What about DriveMode as well, that other highly useful app from the LifeDrive / T5 ?

Thanks,

Allen.

Mobile Manager - 8GB?
meeksomebody @ 12/20/2006 6:09:41 AM # Q
Hey, the question should be, can it work on the LifeDrive? SDHC 8GB would be wow!

RE: Mobile manager on Treo 680?
jfme @ 12/20/2006 7:32:13 AM # Q
grimpeur,
I moved from a Lifedrive to a Treo 680. Guess what? The File Transfer application (Lifedrive Manager) and Drive Mode are NOT available on the Treo 680. You have to get 3rd party applications (buggy) that sometimes work and sometimes don't. I really miss my Lifedrive for this feature. Being able to drag and drop my music, documents, movies to my pda in a few seconds is gone. The process now is: open SD compartment, remove card, put card in reader, move files, remove card from reader, put back on Treo, close compartment. Lets see, why does Apple deserve its success with Ipod again?

And no, the Lifedrive applications do not work on a Treo 680 at its present state (not compatible with 320x320 screen format).

RE: Mobile manager on Treo 680?
freakout @ 12/20/2006 7:55:20 AM # Q
^^ Give Softick Card Export a try; it turns your Palm into a standard USB drive. Drag and drop to your heart's content.

Only problem is that it's slower compared to a proper card reader. But you can't beat it for convenience.

RE: Mobile manager on Treo 680?
jfme @ 12/20/2006 8:35:46 AM # Q
"Give Softick Card Export a try; it turns your Palm into a standard USB drive. Drag and drop to your heart's content."

I did and it crashes half of the time corrupting the files in the card. I have no option but to stick to the physical card reader.

RE: Mobile manager on Treo 680?
Ou_Boet @ 12/20/2006 10:08:07 AM # Q
Try Card Reader from Mobile Stream. (www.mobile-stream.com) It works flawlessly on my TX and I've read tonnes of reports about it working well on other devices. I'm sure it'll be fine on the 680 too. Be sure to demo before dropping cash though.

OB

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RE: Mobile manager on Treo 680?
bquin @ 12/20/2006 10:14:23 AM # Q
Cardreader just came out with a Bluetooth version. It works great on my TX...

Bquin
...laughing at a world too absurd to take seriously...
RE: Mobile manager on Treo 680?
cervezas @ 12/20/2006 10:17:20 AM # Q
Cardreader works fine on the 680. Nice piece of software.

David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com/blog
RE: Mobile manager on Treo 680?
grimpeur @ 12/21/2006 3:48:20 AM # Q
So just to check guys,

When I use one of these bits of software and have the 8GB card in the 680 plugged into my PC, I will see a 8GB drive ( or 7.xGB formatted ) appear under my file system for me to copy files to. In other words does it behave exactly like DriveMode??



RE: Mobile manager on Treo 680?
cervezas @ 12/21/2006 8:05:05 AM # Q
Yes, you'll see your SD card as a drive, just like with DriveMode. Only one hitch with Cardreader: you have to launch the application before the card will appear. It can run in the background after that (i.e. once launched you can run other applications on your Treo and still copy files back and forth) but if you disconnect the cable you'll have to relaunch after each reconnect.


David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com/blog

RE: Mobile manager on Treo 680?
t3h @ 12/22/2006 12:25:51 AM # Q
I copied Palm's drive mode app from a friend's T5 to my TX using Resco Explorer - that works fine for me. Wonder if it will on the 680.

Palm TX + 1GB SD + Motorola v3x = awesomeness
RE: Mobile manager on Treo 680?
grimpeur @ 12/22/2006 3:31:38 AM # Q
Apparently the LifeDrives apps ( like Drivemode ) won't work on the Treo due to the screen size incompatability.

RE: Mobile manager on Treo 680?
jfme @ 12/22/2006 8:49:32 AM # Q
"I copied Palm's drive mode app from a friend's T5 to my TX using Resco Explorer - that works fine for me. Wonder if it will on the 680."

It did not work for me. Like grimpeur said, it is a problem of screen resolution.

Someone at treocentral said that the "Lifedrive Manager" recognized the Treo 680's SD card. Mine didn't.

It would be very smart if Palm includes these T5/Lifedrive applications in future versions of the Palm Desktop. With the Treo line being so versatile, moving music, documents and movies is as important as the Hotsync utility.

I know you can pay for third party applications, but how much does the Itunes software cost?

RE: Mobile manager on Treo 680?
grimpeur @ 12/22/2006 9:06:37 AM # Q
I totally agree and not being a Treo user at present I'm pretty shocked that at present there is no native support for dragging and dropping onto a Treo SD/MMC card within Palm Desktop.

My Nokia N70 has this for example through the Nokia desktop suite.

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700P????

drbuzz0 @ 12/20/2006 4:09:32 PM # Q
Any word on the 700p? Or if the drivers from the 680 can be copied to the 700p?

RE: 700P????
freakout @ 12/20/2006 5:34:00 PM # Q
Dude, spin your mouse wheel just a little bit backwards to a find a thread with the exact same title as yours. Just less question marks. :P

Or even better, just read the article...

My personal testing with the exact same Transcend 8gb SDHC card on my Treo 700p and Palm TX proved to be utterly fruitless--the Treo 680 is the only Palm device currently offering even unofficial support for SDHC cards.

Now go stand in the corner, and think about what you've done. ;)

RE: 700P????
drbuzz0 @ 12/20/2006 7:39:38 PM # Q
I am aware that it won't work out of the box. Now what I want to know is can you hack the SD drivers, in the way you can hack the fat drivers to make the 650 read 4gb cards

RE: 700P????
drbuzz0 @ 12/20/2006 8:24:32 PM # Q
UPDATE: IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Found a copy of the treo 680 rom online. Coppied MMSDCard.prc and SlotDriver%3A SDIO-sdsd.prc to the ram on my treo 700p. Soft reset. Insert 8gb SDHC Card... IT WORKS. No need for a custom rom or anything

Note: I'm not sure if both of those files are required or if only one is needed, but I sure ain't complaining, because it worked on the first try!

Note 2: Never do this sort of thing without backing up first. And don't hold me responsible for anything...because it might break your device, result in serious injury, property damage or death...


I'll post em later

RE: 700P????
BaalthazaaR @ 12/21/2006 3:19:09 PM # Q
I'm a newbie when it comes to SDIO/SDHC cards. I do believe that they're different with SDHC being higher capacity storage...but I figure I'd ask the question to everyone anyway (at the risk of sounding dumb)... I don't suppose someone has been able to get one of those 802.11g SDIO cards working on a PalmOS Treo even if it is a hack?
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I'm rather shocked.

AdamaDBrown @ 12/20/2006 4:44:38 PM # Q
Everything I'd heard had indicated that all current devices would not work with SDHC. I suppose that Palm deliberately built the 680 with SDHC support, but it seems rather strange to make such an upgrade in just one model, and even more so not to mention it in the specs.

RE: I'm rather shocked.
freakout @ 12/20/2006 6:53:30 PM # Q
It is odd that they don't list it in the specs. It's not like this kind of thing happens by accident...
RE: I'm rather shocked.
joad @ 12/22/2006 1:10:12 AM # Q
I think Palm learning to be a little gunshy and isn't overpromising on the box anymore. Remember them printing on the Treo 600 box that it was compatible with wifi and how popular that "mistake" was with some buyers?

They also didn't "officially" promise that 4GB SD cards would work on the 700+, but they mostly do. That seems to be related to the fact there's no official SD standard above 2GB.

I support Palm in their apparent move toward more conservative claims about their products. It's much better to not expect it and find out later it's possible, than to purchase something based on Palm's bloated claims only later to discover it was marketing fluff and not real.

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WORKS ON TREO 700P

drbuzz0 @ 12/21/2006 12:07:59 AM # Q
I have an 8gb card in my 700p right now, thanks to copying over a couple files from a 680 ROM rip

RE: WORKS ON TREO 700P
icarus @ 12/21/2006 3:22:38 PM # Q
Hey DrBuzz

Where did you find the 680 ROM on the net?

Is there a way to get the following files?
MMSDCard.prc
MMSDCard_deDE.prc
lotDriver%3A SDIO-sdsd.prc
and an eventuall deDE-version of the SlotDriver

I will try to get the stuff running on my TX.
Do you own a TX? If yes, did you already try it?(If yes, does it work??)

Thanks in advance.

Best regards from Switzerland


icarus

Palm III, Palm III, Palm m105, Palm Tungsten T, palmOne LifeDrive, palmOne Tungsten T5, Palm TX

RE: WORKS ON TREO 700P
freakout @ 12/21/2006 5:03:46 PM # Q
There's a link in this Treocentral thread:

http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1155358&postcount=92

Good luck...

RE: WORKS ON TREO 700P
dandeb19 @ 1/11/2007 8:58:06 PM # Q
drbuzz, you are the man, the hero, the bomb. Thanks a mil for the info. Just got new Treo 700p & Transcend 8GB SDHC card and am using it now. Nice to be able to follow an intelligent person toward the brink of pure Genius. A Fan!!!

RE: WORKS ON TREO 700P
rvogo @ 1/12/2007 6:58:01 PM # Q
@icarus: did you try on your plam TX? I am interested if you were succesful and if it worked....
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oh my palm...

2xs @ 12/21/2006 3:09:19 AM # Q
I cant believe... palm sells one of the first devices supporting SDHC and don't loose a word of this feature in the specs, wtf ?!

gr33tz sdhc_XS

Palm Professional -> Palm III -> Palm Vx -> Palm m505 -> Palm TT2 -> Palm TT3 -> Palm TX

RE: oh my palm...
grimpeur @ 12/21/2006 3:48:15 AM # Q
It may be that it doesn't support it fully, so Palm can't label the device as SDHC compliant even though it essentially is.

People are saying that the card only appears as 3.9GB until you actually cross the threshold and copy more data to it. That suggests it might not be fully compliant to me.

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So Treo's are g2g, but can the TX & others...?

Genjinaro @ 12/22/2006 1:18:18 AM # Q
Might be a dumb question but its smarter to ask now rather than find out through the "green of my pocket." Seeing that all you Treo 7series users needed was drivers from the lesser model. Will these same drivers put the "lifedrive x2" into my TX?


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What's the data transfer rate on these?

cervezas @ 12/22/2006 12:16:44 PM # Q
I couldn't find what the data transfer rate is on these cards. High speed will really help for what I want to do (carry around a portable desktop Linux environment that I can boot off the Treo's USB).

David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com/blog
RE: What's the data transfer rate on these?
hkklife @ 12/22/2006 2:05:32 PM # Q
The Transcend 8gb SDHC card is a class 2 card. My card states it right there on the label. The smaller 4gb SDHC card is a class 6 card IIRC.

I think that even the slowest SDHC speeds will suffice for your purposes, as I have had no issues capturing hundreds of megabytes of 640*480 30fps vidoes while testing my Casio digicam with that "slow" Transcend card.

Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

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Treo 700p 8gb SDhc Fix

seasiii @ 5/22/2007 10:25:02 PM # Q
Following these instructions allows you to have an 8gb sd card work on your palm treo 700p
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8gb SDhc card on Treo 700p works!

seasiii @ 5/22/2007 10:34:38 PM # Q
Treo 700p
Enabling the use of an 8GB SDHC card on your Treo 700p is a bit more complex but even a novice user should be able to do this within a couple of minutes. You’ll first need to:

Download and install the free FileZ application (or a similar one such as the great Resco Explorer)
Download but do NOT install and do NOT HotSync this SDIO-sdsd.prc file
Have a standard (not SDHC) SD card of any size ready
Have your new 8GB SDHC card ready
Then do the following:

Copy the SDIO-sdsd.prc file to your standard SD card (not SDHC)
Insert the standard SD card in your Treo 700p
Open FileZ, browse to your SD card, select ‘Copy’ the SDIO-sdsd.prc file and ‘Paste’ it to your ‘Internal’ memory folder
Exit the application and soft reset your Treo
After all this you should now also be perfectly able to use your new 8GB SDHC card with your Treo 700p.

Google SDIO-sdsd.prc to find file - it is a free download.

or get it here:

http://software.palminfocenter.com/product.asp?id=10523

RE: 8gb SDhc card on Treo 700p works!
kindofblue @ 12/14/2007 7:04:01 PM # Q
Treo 700p
Enabling the use of an 8GB SDHC card on your Treo 700p is a bit more complex but even a novice user should be able to do this within a couple of minutes. You’ll first need to:

Download and install the free FileZ application (or a similar one such as the great Resco Explorer)
Download but do NOT install and do NOT HotSync this SDIO-sdsd.prc file
Have a standard (not SDHC) SD card of any size ready
Have your new 8GB SDHC card ready
Then do the following:

Copy the SDIO-sdsd.prc file to your standard SD card (not SDHC)
Insert the standard SD card in your Treo 700p
Open FileZ, browse to your SD card, select ‘Copy’ the SDIO-sdsd.prc file and ‘Paste’ it to your ‘Internal’ memory folder
Exit the application and soft reset your Treo
After all this you should now also be perfectly able to use your new 8GB SDHC card with your Treo 700p.

Google SDIO-sdsd.prc to find file - it is a free download.

or get it here:

http://software.palminfocenter.com/product.asp?id=10523

Might you know if this will work on the Treo 650? I've been searching all over this forum for this info. Thanks.

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Help!

winrey @ 8/9/2007 7:01:21 AM # Q
Help Anyone!

I can't get my newly purchased Transcend 8 gig card to work with my newly purchased Treo 680. "The start up application for this card cannot be run" is displayed.

Thanx.

Winston (cyber dummy)

RE: Help!
Ryan @ 8/9/2007 10:03:00 AM # Q
Try reformatting it on your Treo with the 'Card Info' application if you have nothing on it. It will erase any data you have on the card at the moment, but should clear up the problem.
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