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Treo 800?
I read somewhere there's a rumor of a Treo 800 soon to be released by Verizon or maybe Dominoes. I heard it will have a 100 MW microwave attached, HiFi speakers and a turntable. sorry no 3.5 earphone jack.
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RE: Treo 800?
Some thing the 755 is the 700p in the 680 formfactor, other think it's the 700wx in the 750 formfactor and others think it's Hawkin' secret 3rd business and/or the EVDO-enabled LifeDrive successor. Of course, the Treo 755 and the "Sherlock/Foleo" could be two (or three!) different products entirely!
Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P
RE: Treo 800?
Handspring had a real bad habit of using ROM rather than Flash RAM in their VISOR devices, saving a little money but screwing up support by being reliant on RAM-resident patches for the life of the product. Now that their legacy (the Treo) is capable of flashable system updates, they sit dormant...
SONY desktop and laptops are notorious for "once it's shipped, you update by buying a new one" as they seem to lock down everything, rarely release fixes, and basically ignore their customer unless they're back to buy another one.
Palm seems to be heading more and more in this direction, and it seems they are encountering more and more of a backlash (as I've heard about SONY) from those of us who don't want to be forced into buying a new computer-phone every year or so just to get the latest updates that any respectable company would automatically fix for any previous model sold under their name. Churn out broken models long enough (8 months without reliable BT handsfree!?!!!)and eventually your customers will find an alternative and probably not return.
How's AOL doing with their $25.00 dial-up, Palm? How many customers came back to them after they worked so diligently to shoo them away?
700wx vrs 700w
RE: 700wx vrs 700w
In addition it has a slightly newer version of Windows Mobile (nothing major, just bugfixes etc). The rumor is that the Verizon version will have AKU 3.3 standard and the Sprint version will have an update available later this spring.
Unfortunately, at least for Sprint, the threaded SMS feature so popular in the 700p is still AWOL on the 700wx. Threaded messaging does make an appearance on the newer Treo 750 and i think some enterprising types on Treo Central have gotten it to work on the wx.
In fact, some conspiracy theorists have speculated that the 700w and 700wx are in fact the EXACT same unit and the extra RAM was just "unlocked" via software. Assume what you want to from that theory...
Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P
RE: 700wx vrs 700w
> the 700w and 700wx are in fact the EXACT same unit and the
> extra RAM was just "unlocked" via software. Assume what
> you want to from that theory...
Yup - that's me!
One minor (perhaps not!) correction, however.
I personally think the "extra" memory was obtained by deleting other software on the device and doing similar "optimizations" (like reducing buffers or whatever).
So..is the 700wx somewhat LESS functional than the 700W?
Say!
If this is NOT the case shouldn't these two devices be separately on the FCC site?...
RE: 700wx vrs 700w
RE: 700wx vrs 700w
The numbering system for the Treos is getting more and more confusing. I can understand the "p" and "w" suffixes, as it's useful in knowing what OS is on similar hardware.
But adding that dumb "X" prefix to indicate they screwed up on the initial release and didn't include access to enough internal memory is nutty. It's a legacy from the time they did that with those Palm V's, and noticed that their corporate "2MB ought to be enough for anyone" attitude was being severely undercut by Tony Rudenko and others making a windfall replacing the chips with 8MB ones. Almost a decade later and Palm is still making a mess of the product numbering by repackaging their lack of understanding their customer's needs as "innovation." Sheesh.
Why not make differentiate the model numbers by 1) type of radio (CDMA, GSM,etc), 2) carrier name (with a 651, 652, 721, etc), 3) Radio + OS, or SOME other way of defining model numbers that the average person can understand.
I am hoping to never need to switch to a WinceMob OS, but if I do I'll need a week to figure out the "logic" Palm used to number things. Treo 700p could simply be the Treo 651, where were the 49 models between the 650 and the 700p? Why does the Windows Mobile version (700w/wx) need to have the same exact number as the PalmOS number? And why is the next model released -20 below that (680... with NO "p" or "w" or "wx" designation)?
"Marketing buzz" at Palm seems to get all the prime seats on the bus, with "intelligent design" and "customer needs" relegated to the back of the bus or the roof rack. Maybe the model number isn't that important. ...But then again, what benefit do they gain by making their model number system so incomprehensible that the customer just ignores them and just calls anything that generically looks like a Treo, a Treo?
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