Comments on: First Palm Pre 2 Pictures Emerge

Add in webOS 2.0 and I think as long as the pricing is right then it should sell fine.

According to the french website the pre2 has a bigger flatter screen. Will be interested to see how the resolution on that adds up. I have a feeling that this is an interim phone and that we won't see the fruits of the HP takeover til next year. I might actually take a punt on this one if the price is right.

F*****g Shiva handed you a million dollars, told you "Sign the deal!" you wouldn't sign. And the god Vishnu too, into the bargain.

Gekko wrote:
>This is still not something I'd buy.

F*****g Shiva handed you a million dollars, told you "Sign the deal!" you wouldn't sign. And the god Vishnu too, into the bargain.

Hello this is Sam from Dell. Hold on for a minute. You should not be using my Gods names in vain. That is most sacrilegious.

In this regard webOS is competitive now that the hardware is up to spec. WebOS is one of the most easiest, most pleasing to use UIs out there.... I would suggest you actually try it on an overclocked Pre to get a real idea of what the new Pre2 will be able to do. For the record I have an iphone 3GS, but after playing around with the latest Android, iphone4 and a friends overclocked Palm Pre, I feel I know which direction I want to jump to next.

No, if Apple would have pulled a stunt like that with iPhone they wouldn't be where they are now.
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The original Pre camera wasn't hideous. It was fixed focus, yes, and "only" 3mp but at least it was lightning-fast unlike some of the laaaaaaagy Android competition. I think the unforgivable lack of video recording at launch was a much bigger problem. I want to see a major focus from all handset & camera sensor module manufacturers on better response and performance instead of just upping megapixel counts.
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The Pre wasn't a success on the Droid or iPhone level but it was not an epic fail on the level of the Kin. It would have been fine as an interim device for a larger company but it wasn't enough to save Palm given the state of the company's finances, marketshare and mindshare.

Again, there is no reason the Pre 2 couldn't have been released earlier in the year but now it will at least help keep WebOS and HP/Palm in the spotlight to a certain extent while more compelling hardware is developed.
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Frankly, I don't know that there's anything HP can do about that now, short of figuring out a way to emulate iOS or Android apps in WebOS.

Actually, I have a Pre. I just haven't updated my profile in a long time. :)

I agree with you about the T5, though. It was a solid device. I liked my TX a little bit better, but still, the T5 was nice.

And to correct my last post a little bit: I don't think the lack of follow-up with other vendors was necessarily the worst mistake they made. The worst mistake was not making sure they made every possible deal they had to make to ensure that Classic was installed -- for free -- on every shipping Pre and Pixi. Yes, most of the apps were crude by today's standards, but at least they would've had a solid stock of apps to point to. Initially, I was one of the people thinking they shouldn't have to include backward compatibility, but that was before I saw how mind-bogglingly bad they were at pumping out apps.

Could you be a little more descriptive than "piece of garbage"? When I had it, it was a pretty solid device. It wasn't a phone, and it wasn't terribly net-connected, but it was a good PDA. I only dumped it to get the TX's wi-fi.

2. Yes, but at least the T5 had extra RAM to spare. Remember how crippled the 650 was at launch? In some instances, pre-patch, it had LESS usable space than the device it was replacing (Treo 600)!

3. Horrible move on Palm's part, but somewhat understandable given the presence of the T|C in the lineup. Still, people had been clamoring for wi-fi on the T3 a year earlier.

4. Ditto. Always a Palm problem (even now!)

5. Not really. The Athena universal connector was used from the T5/650 in 2004 up through the final Centro in 2008. MiniUSB and such hadn't really caught on at this time so that is somewhat understandable.

6. Another lame move considering the T5's predecessors had always included cradles.

Here are some more to add:

7. No microphone for voice recording capability (T3 had this)
8. No LED light for charging (T3 had this)
9. Weak/mushy power button prone to failure (just like the TE series and TX)
10. Worse stylus than the T3. Also required unscrewing the cap to access the reset button.
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when times are good - everyone is fat and happy and there's a lot of margin for error. when times are bad - everyone starts pointing the finger at everyone else and they start looking under every rock to cut costs and trim fat.

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I'm hoping HP's new CEO, Leo Apotheker, has a scintillating personality, because his resume looks like doom for the world's largest computer maker's future in the consumer and mobile markets.

I'm not baffled by this choice: I'm depressed. On paper, Apotheker is an apparatchik from a company that has absolutely no exposure to consumers. He spent 20 years selling hideously boring but profitable enterprise software, and was then vaulted up to CEO and swiftly sacrificed on the altar of the global economic collapse.

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What on earth was in the pipeline? If this is it, then they either thot the Pre was a iPhonesque in it's original success, Thus another tweak would keep it ahead or the rest.

Or (probably reality) this was the pathetic followup to the original from a company that was simply positioning itself for sale based on the first release device / OS.

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