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PalmInfocenter MobileWelcome to the latest version of PalmInfocenter! Todays refresh marks our 6th major design overhaul over the course of our 10 years online. The new site features a streamlined new look, improved loading times, larger fonts for easier reading, optimized navigation and various commenting enhancements, while still retaining the classic PIC look and feel.

In addition I've also overhauled the mobile version of PalmInfocenter (m.palminfocenter.com) as well. It now offers registered users the ability to login in and comment right from your device while browsing the lightweight, mobile optimized site.

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Great News

robera @ 2/26/2009 12:08:38 PM # M Q
This is my first comment straight from Palminfocenter Mobile. Excelent Ryan :)
RE: Great News
freakout @ 2/26/2009 1:22:52 PM # Q
seconded, it's somthing i've been wanting for awhile.
RE: Great News
Patrick @ 2/26/2009 1:33:14 PM # Q
Great Job.

BTW... that would be "easier" reading... (oh, the irony... :)

RE: Great News
usakarateri @ 2/27/2009 4:30:56 AM # M Q
this is great! I have been visiting this site for years (since I owned a Kyocera 6035!) I've wanted to leave my comments on several stories, but I rarely visit this site from my desktop. I have to admit the soap opera type bickering between Mike & Gekko are amusing.
This is a great improvement! Thanks Ryan.
RE: Great News
Ed Lin @ 2/27/2009 2:07:10 PM # M Q
Thanks for the redesign. I'm sure with the Pre coming this site will be growing a lot.
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oopsie -= tried to reply to above and got...

SeldomVisitor @ 2/26/2009 12:33:21 PM # Q
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request....

RE: oopsie -= tried to reply to above and got...
Ryan @ 2/26/2009 12:43:43 PM # Q
Thanks for catching that, it's been fixed.
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Ah geez

mikecane @ 2/26/2009 12:56:21 PM # Q
You WOULD do this when the flu has made me so feverish EVERYTHING seems like an hallucination!

It's very ... white.

Need more Comments. That's how I kept up. Posted Comment in side is too few!!

RE: Ah geez
Ryan @ 2/26/2009 12:59:40 PM # Q
Mike - the comments link in the main menu above shows the latest 50 comments:

http://www.palminfocenter.com/comments/

RE: Ah geez
SeldomVisitor @ 2/26/2009 1:10:43 PM # Q
Kid just got over flu; spousie currently has it. About 4-5 days, then recovery. Recovery consists of no fever but cough. Kid is on about 5th day of recovery now.


RE: Ah geez
mikecane @ 2/26/2009 5:39:09 PM # Q
This flu does its best to kill its host. Ungrateful bastard.
RE: Ah geez
ChiA @ 2/27/2009 3:49:05 AM # Q
EVERYTHING seems like an hallucination!

Hey Mike, your critics might say you spend your life in one great hallucination!

As a fellow (flu) sufferer here's to wish you a speedy recovery.

RE: Ah geez
SeldomVisitor @ 2/27/2009 4:21:31 AM # Q
Relatively speaking, the flu The Kidlet and The Spousie got was way mild - fever up to103-ish, slightly runny nose. lots of coughing, tired, that's about it - and, as noted, about 4-5 days of that, then cough for another week after the fever went away. I wouldn't even classify it as a "bad cold"...


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I'm having serious problems reading the font, at least for...

SeldomVisitor @ 2/26/2009 1:11:19 PM # Q
...the comments.

RE: I'm having serious problems reading the font, at least for...
SeldomVisitor @ 2/26/2009 1:12:20 PM # Q
WAITAMINUTE!

That should be - when I hit reply and/or make new comment, I'm having serious problems with the font. I just read the comments without replying etc and the font is fine.

RE: I'm having serious problems reading the font, at least for...
Ryan @ 2/26/2009 1:14:16 PM # Q
The font of the button images or the comments themselves?

RE: I'm having serious problems reading the font, at least for...
SeldomVisitor @ 2/26/2009 1:24:01 PM # Q
Font of the comments - reply to THIS message and look at what you type (no need to post!).

RE: I'm having serious problems reading the font, at least for...
Ryan @ 2/26/2009 1:29:14 PM # Q
I'm not following you, the comment form is set to default to a largish-font.

I've tested on all major browsers and have not seen any small font issues. What exactly are you using? If you can email me a screenshot that would be helpful.

Also you can change the font levels within your browser, maybe that setting is interfering or could fix your issue...


RE: I'm having serious problems reading the font, at least for...
SeldomVisitor @ 2/26/2009 1:47:46 PM # Q
This is a test, nothing but a test - note the Subject font.

I'm using Firefox, screen resolution is 1600x1200 (32 bits).

I'll email you two Bitmaps (thus no information loss); one will be of this area, the other of the comments below this in-progress reply. Two different fonts being used. THIS area has squished characters.

RE: I'm having serious problems reading the font, at least for...
SeldomVisitor @ 2/26/2009 1:51:03 PM # Q
I have sent the two sample screenshots to webmaster@palminfocenter.com

RE: I'm having serious problems reading the font, at least for...
Ryan @ 2/26/2009 3:06:24 PM # Q
ok, thanks for the screens. I've made some adjustments to the comment box, let me know if its better/worse/same for you now.
RE: I'm having serious problems reading the font, at least for...
SeldomVisitor @ 2/26/2009 3:11:19 PM # Q
This is a test...yes THIS is much better, however, during the reply the Subject text just above is still the squished font.

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Excellent!

grimpeur @ 2/26/2009 1:34:44 PM # Q
Looks great, I really like the new look!
RE: Excellent!
G M Fude @ 2/26/2009 11:54:06 PM # Q
Yeah nice job on the upgrade, Ryan. Works well and easy to read.

Hoping for a bit more colour though. It's just a tad too high key I think.
- Steve Smith

RE: Excellent!
CTSLICK @ 2/27/2009 1:13:59 PM # Q
Like the new look too, nice!
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works great

Gekko @ 2/26/2009 3:32:50 PM # M Q
remote posting from the sushi bar.
RE: works great
justauser @ 2/26/2009 3:50:38 PM # M Q
Love it. Well done Ryan
RE: works great
buckeyetex315 @ 2/26/2009 7:09:54 PM # M Q
Great overhaul, Ryan. Mobile edition looks good on my iPhone. I like it better than the iPhone edition.

Brent

RE: works great
CFreymarc @ 2/27/2009 12:55:29 PM # Q
... and this is written in a bar that you would get you butt kicked in if you mentioned sushi or sake.
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Tithasesh!!

zuhmir @ 2/26/2009 4:20:38 PM # Q
There is no English word for this complement.
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Very nice!

Local @ 2/27/2009 1:14:58 AM # Q
I really like the new look. Very easy to read and pleasing to the eye. And of course the reporting is as good as always.

Thank you!

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good job :-)

sadams @ 2/27/2009 4:13:50 AM # Q
...looks good and much "fresher".
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RE: good job :-)
NuShrike @ 2/28/2009 11:34:26 AM # Q
Now I could read this site from even my Apple II or lynx! hah!

Welcome to the true mobile Web 2.0: what Web 1.0 was before stinking Flash.
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About time... ;-)

cstamper @ 2/27/2009 5:01:42 AM # Q
Thanks for the long-needed refresh! Looks great!

One can only hope that you are not still running it on MS ISS...
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comments from Treo 755

vetdoctor @ 2/27/2009 9:08:04 AM # M Q
1. Try to comment, redirected to logon page. logon. back to front page and try again. Redirected to the logon page. login again. "you are alreadey logged in". repeat until I find that on the redirect to logon page if I refresh the screen now it knows i'm logged.

2. while doing the above I wnt to see if I could comment in the forums.
Error in my_thread_global_end(): 1 threads didn't exit

RE: comments from Treo 755
twrock @ 2/27/2009 9:43:22 PM # Q
Re: "Error in my_thread_global_end(): 1 threads didn't exit", I get the same error message when trying to get into the discussion forums. However, I ended up where I wanted to by just ignoring the message. I was redirected as usual.

"twrock is infamous around these parts"
(from my profile over at Brighthand due to my negative 62 rep points rating)
RE: comments from Treo 755
twrock @ 2/27/2009 10:04:08 PM # Q
And I just got this error trying to post a lengthy reply in the discussion forums (and there is no way I'm going to go back and retype all of that):

Content Encoding Error

The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression.

The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression.

* Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.

"twrock is infamous around these parts"
(from my profile over at Brighthand due to my negative 62 rep points rating)

RE: comments from Treo 755
twrock @ 2/27/2009 10:15:20 PM # Q
And then after restarting Firefox, it appears that the reply got posted five times instead of not at all! So I just deleted four of them.

"twrock is infamous around these parts"
(from my profile over at Brighthand due to my negative 62 rep points rating)
RE: comments from Treo 755
Ryan @ 2/28/2009 8:40:44 AM # Q
Sorry for the errors, thanks for posting them. I will look into it. The my_thread_global_end() can be ignored.
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Posting on Tx

philpalm @ 2/28/2009 6:00:16 PM # M Q
I am internet spoiled and posting using Tx is a drudge. No spell check and scrolling down the comments is a pain using the five way button.

I bet you using a Pre will still be a pain compared to using a regular computer (except one with a virus).

RE: Posting on Tx
Piero @ 2/28/2009 7:43:31 PM # M Q
that is RIGHT! for a decent internet experience get nokia n810......
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'Latest Comments' window should always be on top

Gekko @ 3/2/2009 5:14:27 PM # Q

i know you want to sell software, but i would like to see the "Latest Comments" window moved up to the top. put "Software" "Latest News" etc. and all that other crap BELOW it. "Latest Comments" is the first thing i want to look at to see if there are any comment updates. i think MikeCrane agrees with me. any chance you can move "Latest Comments" to the tippy-top so my eyes don't have to go cross-eyed looking for this window among the sea of text on the right side of the web page wall? also, it would be nice if you can expand the box too to list more - maybe 20 instead of 10 if at all possible. and No, i don't want to have to click on "comment board" and go to another whole screen page. but putting it on TOP would be a great fix IMO.

THANKS!

RE: 'Latest Comments' window should always be on top
Ryan @ 3/3/2009 11:48:27 AM # Q
Hey G - do you guys not use/like the dedicated comments board page?

http://www.palminfocenter.com/comments/

I realize the one on the sidebar is smaller, but the dedicated page is much better and shows the latest 50 comments at a glance.

RE: 'Latest Comments' window should always be on top
Gekko @ 3/3/2009 12:25:19 PM # Q

no. i like to do a quick jump to PIC and do a quick glance to see if there's any new comments. before it was nice because the 10 new comments were all listed at the BOTTOM of the page (which was fine since it was easy to find). now, i must scan and scroll through a sea of text to try to find the new comments section. and no, i don't want to click off the main page to the big "comments board" just to see of there were any new comments. it's too cumbersome to do that. the BIG "comments board" is nice on those rare occassions when we get 20+ comments in a day on various topics and you have to catch up - but day to day, i just want a simple easy box of the last 10 comments which is easy to find.

again, please put the "10 Most Recent Comments" at the very top or the very bottom on the main page. this is the #1 thing my eyes want to go to when i enter PIC and i don't want it buried between seas of text. thanks.

p.s. sorry for the rambling - headache.

RE: 'Latest Comments' window should always be on top
SeldomVisitor @ 3/3/2009 1:38:32 PM # Q
I, too, do a quick jump to PIC and am very interested in what the latest comments are. However, I tend to scan the headlines first to see if any new editorial content has appeared, THEN give a quick "flick" to my mousewheel to scroll the page to where the latest comments on the right-hand side are visible.

Works great and a LOT better than having the comments at the bottom of the page - would I want the new "latest comments" section at the top (er..top-right?). Wouldn't complain about that but don't at ALL think it's necessary for "rapid and perfectly satisfactory PIC perusal"...

RE: 'Latest Comments' window should always be on top
Gekko @ 3/3/2009 3:15:46 PM # Q

please put the damn thing on the top.
RE: 'Latest Comments' window should always be on top
hkklife @ 3/3/2009 4:55:14 PM # Q
R;
As you likely remember from when I was beta-testing the site back in Dec/Jan, the only thing on the new site I am not fond of is the comments box on the right-hand side.

I liked the old one at the bottom of the screen for 2 reasons:

#1 It was a quick mouse scroll wheel flick (I use it the Logitech hyper-scrolling feature a LOT) or CTL-END key combo away (I also use home/end/pg up/pg down a ton-maybe an old diehard PC thing??)

#2 It showed more comments

I hardly ever go to the dedicated comments page unless I've been offline for a full day and there's been a big story with a lot of chatter (earnings report, new product announced etc).

I think that putting the latest comments up top would be overkill (especially considering how it's the "usual gang of idiots/regulars" doing most of the frequent posting here, but restoring it to its old location at the very bottom of the page is what I'd like to see.

As SV said, the dedicated coments board is, IMHO, too cumbersome to get to and having the small box on the right hand side as it is now is a bit less intuitive (it sort of gets jumbled up with the "special deals" ad & the "notable stories" feature etc.
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RE: 'Latest Comments' window should always be on top
Ryan @ 3/3/2009 5:14:23 PM # Q
I'm thinking about a couple things for this. I may make it a preferences option if enough people would want the list on the absolute top right.

However, I don't quite follow why making one click on "Comments" in the top menu-bar is so cumbersome!

RE: 'Latest Comments' window should always be on top
Gekko @ 3/3/2009 5:23:41 PM # Q

top or bottom works for me. slapped in the middle of a sea of text on the right is not good. making it a "preferences" is no good because i don't always want to log in every time! and i don't want to click on comments every time. sometimes i shoot back and forth quickly from other sites - i just want to so a quick scan at the top/bottom of the page - and move on. don't make me unnecessarily call up a new page every time! yes, i know it's going to space but i want everything NOW! instantly!

i think MikeCrane agrees with me.

RE: 'Latest Comments' window should always be on top
abosco @ 3/5/2009 3:27:40 PM # Q
It changed recently to right under the two software lists. This shows up on the bottom corner of my browser window, which is fine. However, I do agree with Gekko that I liked the old comment board at the bottom of the main page better.


-Bosco
m105 -> NX70v -> NX80v -> iPhone -> iPhone 3G

RE: 'Latest Comments' window should always be on top
SeldomVisitor @ 3/5/2009 4:20:24 PM # Q
The current location of the right-side comments stuff is perfect for my use of PIC - it shows up WITHOUT me having to do anything at all.

[note for others - I use 1600x1200 on Firefox with a
"Bookmarks" left-side frame of about 1/5th the total display size]

RE: 'Latest Comments' window should always be on top
Gekko @ 3/5/2009 4:29:02 PM # Q

is it too much to GD ask to put the thing at the top?
RE: 'Latest Comments' window should always be on top
Ryan @ 3/5/2009 4:38:08 PM # Q
Sorry that's a high as its gonna go for now. I am looking into an option for you to put it wherever you want in the future.
RE: 'Latest Comments' window should always be on top
Gekko @ 3/5/2009 5:00:02 PM # Q

i'm considering a hunger strike.
RE: 'Latest Comments' window should always be on top
abosco @ 3/5/2009 6:47:52 PM # Q
http://tinyurl.com/77sfx9

You sound just like Chris Cornell.
-Bosco
m105 -> NX70v -> NX80v -> iPhone -> iPhone 3G

RE: 'Latest Comments' window should always be on top
SeldomVisitor @ 3/6/2009 7:37:04 AM # Q
Now that I've visited PIC a number of times with the latest "comments" location, I'm likin' it a LOT.

Nuff said.

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old browser issues?

Be_True @ 3/3/2009 4:06:04 PM # Q
I'm using Win2000 and IE 6.0
When the pages load, my pointer goes nuts and IE locks for 15 seconds. Pointer shows a fast flickering hourglass next to the pointer, normal wait icon is a pointer with a spinning hourglass beside it.

I also get random areas of the screen where it is white (text not drawn)
If I drag a window over the blank areas, it will redraw and show the text.

I've never had any issues like this show up before. No clue what may be causing it. It is only on this site.


Other than that, the site just seems to be too white... maybe an off-white would be better for eye-strain?
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RE: old browser issues?
Gekko @ 3/3/2009 4:33:16 PM # Q

time to upgrade.
RE: old browser issues?
Ryan @ 3/3/2009 5:17:39 PM # Q
hmm, might be a pngfix issue. I have no access to IE6 so I can't test, but I will see what I can do.

But as an aside, there is no reason anyone should still be using IE6.


RE: old browser issues?
Gekko @ 3/3/2009 5:25:17 PM # Q

you mean you don't support all IE Browsers back to 1.0???

OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!!

RE: old browser issues?
hkklife @ 3/3/2009 10:18:49 PM # Q
In all honesty, guys, there are still a fair amount of IE6 users out there. IE7 total use didn't surpass 6.x until sometime in mid/late '08, IIRC.

I personally know of several sizable firms where Win 2000 is still the most widely-deployed OS (from PCs of 2001-2004 vintage, so likely due to be upgraded soon but still)

A lot of companies transitioned from NT straight to 2k and have bypassed XP & Vista for any number of reasons. IE7+ are not compatible with IE6, so that's as good as it gets for Win2k unless you use a non-MS browser.
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'Reply with Quote' button

twrock @ 3/7/2009 9:09:55 PM # Q
Hey, cool! Was I asleep, or did you just slip this one in there. Nice addition.

The best Palm site just keeps getting better.

"twrock is infamous around these parts"
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