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RE: Great review, Ed
I agree. This is a very complete review. Probably, the most complete I've seen for any Palm device. I think I'll buy the HandEra, even though it doesn't fit all of my desires. However, none of the current PDA's fit all of my desires. My dream PDA: -Start with a HandEra 330 I still like the 330 a lot, and once again Ed, great review. HandEra is screwedI.M. Anonymous @ 5/24/2001 12:06:11 PM #
Reasons the 330 won't sell to anyone other than a few thousand techno geeks: 1) Ugly case. Why didn't they just keep it simple and use a plain black case like everyone asked for? 2) Monochrome screen. The future has arrived and it's in color. Once peolpe start seeing the new color PDAs like the CLIE N710C, not many of us will be willing to accept monochrome. Color is one of those things that you don't realize how much you want until you get it. 3) Potential problems with scaling. Why would any developer bother to recode their apps to support a PDA that is only going to sell a few thousand units? Not being able to use an application like, say, DateBk4 is reason enough for a lot of people to bypass the HandEra 330. 4) No user-accessible FlashRAM. It's ironic that the company that makes FlashPro and FlashPack was too cheap to bother providing enough Flash to allow users to store programs in Flash memory. 5) Size. This PDA is just too big for many people to comfortably carry. They should have listened to the members of the TRGPro Users Group on Yahoo Groups that have been saying for months what would have made a PDA that would sell. RE: Great review, Ed
You are being too harsh on HandEra. Sure color is nice, but at $449-$500-plus dollars! The HandEra is quite less expensive. The FlashRAM makes no sense with having two slots for storage! Why use internal Flash with two types of storage? This makes no sense. The H330 will be sold in Office Depot, I understand, which gives it the kind of push and visibility the TRGPro never had (yet deserved). I think it will sell very well. RE: HandEra is screwedI.M. Anonymous @ 5/24/2001 2:01:57 PM #
I don't think you realize, but HandEra has just created a PDA without much of a market. The 330 will appeal to a few engineering types only. Strike 1: TRG's previous medical customers won't be caught dead with such an unprofessional-appearing device no matter how much you might want them to succeed. Strike 2: Their previous vertical market (sales) customers are going to find there are Strike 3: Even if they started selling 330s in your local corner store, they lack the ability to Battery technology has already reached the point that a single charge can provide color HandEra will sell a few PDAs over the next 2 or 3 months, as former TRGPro owners upgrade I like HandEra, and even bought one of the first TRGPros they ever sold. I watched them I've seen all of the Palm OS PDAs that will be released this year, including the new Handsprings How long will HandEra survive?I.M. Anonymous @ 5/24/2001 2:43:06 PM #
Sad but true. I can't believe they didn't at least use a plain black case. This thing looks like it was designed by a pocket You people are idiotsI.M. Anonymous @ 6/9/2001 11:41:15 PM #
Give me a break. "HE is going to be bought out." Do you know how stupid you sound?
1) The HE330 has tons of features that have NEVER BEFORE BEEN AVAILABLE IN A PALM OS DEVICE. Read that again. Features that should have been there before, like virtual graffiti and high resolution. 2) The HE grabs the attention of people who want solid features and also must have Palm OS. People who want expansion. People who have $ invested in Palm III addons. etc etc. So much attention that HE is having trouble filling all the orders. 3) Color, color, color (shut up already!) GOOD color (not m505 color) is expensive, shortens battery life, and makes for a huge sized PDA. Those are just the facts of our time. Until technolgy makes a super-small color screen with little power draw, companies hands are forced. Do they alienate their business customers by going with expensive color screens, or do they go with existing technology? 4) Yes, the HE is ugly, but it's not really hat bad in person. I'm not "revolted", as people would like you to think, by looking at my HE. Actually, for the people pushing for all black, you have to be crazy. It's the black plastic that looks bad, not the crome. The crome is not as slick as the silver Visor Edge, but it's damn close. Anyway, if you're damning the 330 just for it's formfactor, you don't understand the legions who want the 330's feature set.
This is the best review I ever read on the Handera 330. Good Job. Ed.
What I will miss most is a list of how various apps perform on the H330. I can tell all would-be buyers of H330 will be keen to know about this. No doubt the H330 offers the best value of money, not to mention the investment I would save in all the peripherals. It is really an outstanding engineering piece of work. But I am quite disappointed to note that the Li-ion battery would be available at the same time the units ship. For us outside USA, this will mean double shipment cost and long wait. Besides, we would be keen to know if the AC supply is 110V/240V compatible. I read from one note relaying a reply from Handera's that it is, but a confirmation will be grateful here. Any idea when part II will be available ?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/21/2001 10:52:56 AM #
You run an application that isn't 320x240 and the silkscreen graffiti area is off? RE: What happens when......I.M. Anonymous @ 5/21/2001 11:19:21 AM #
it leaves a bvlank white space! RE: What happens when......I.M. Anonymous @ 5/21/2001 11:23:06 AM #
You get a blank area where the grafitti area would be.
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/21/2001 12:14:06 PM #
Great review. Ed surely knows his craft. Very objective and cover all bases. Now, what we need is a review of the new Clie and a comparison of the m500 and m505. RE: Very comprehensive reviewI.M. Anonymous @ 5/21/2001 1:09:31 PM #
Comparison of the m500 and m505? OK: m500: monochrome. M505:colour. Is that comprehensive enough for you? RE: Very comprehensive reviewI.M. Anonymous @ 5/21/2001 1:21:44 PM #
The comprehensive review refers to the Handera 330. There's no review for the m500, and while the m505 reviews takes care of most features, there are difference like battery life and screen quality (in comparison to previous monochrome Palm).
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/21/2001 12:26:31 PM #
Will HandEra offer a USB option for the 330 sometime in the future? RE: USB anytime soon?
If they did I think it would be a terrible mistake. This is decision made based on their target market: business users. Many companies are far behind consumers when it comes to technology and the business world is full of computers with no USB support. This includes all computers that run Windows NT and the USB support in Windows 95 is questionable. HandEra simply couldn't ignore a good portion of their potential market. This is especially true when considering that USB doesn't add any additional capabilities over a serial connection besides speed of HotSyncing. Also, adding USB would have required them to redesign the serial port, which would have removed one of the 330's most useful features: its backwards hardware compatibility. The device can use all clip-on peripherals designed for its predecessor, the TRGpro and the Palm III series. For companies that have already invested in large amounts of expensive equipment, like wireless modems, this can be a major selling point. This can also be a selling point for consumers who would like to keep their investment in III series peripherals and were irritated by Palm's abandonment of the Palm III form factor. Notice that a large number of other comments here are about whether the H330 will work with this or that III series peripheral. Maybe someday they'll move to USB, but only when it gets more firmly entrenched into corporate America. Could it use Palm's USB cradle?I.M. Anonymous @ 5/21/2001 4:06:37 PM #
After all, it keeps the Palm III connector, so it should work with the USB cradle designed for that connector. It wouldn't be much of a speed gain, but if you're a Mac user... Jon Acheson RE: USB anytime soon?I.M. Anonymous @ 5/22/2001 10:41:06 AM #
According to HandEra support, the 330 is "as compatible with Macintosh as any Palm handheld. You just need the Mac version of the Palm Desktop software, and a USB adapter for the serial cradle. Both are prepackaged as a kit called the Mac Pack, available at most computer stores or at www.palm.com." So it looks like the 330 can speak USB (after a fashion). Chris Jones RE: USB anytime soon?I.M. Anonymous @ 5/29/2001 9:54:05 PM #
"USB doesn't add any additional capabilities over a serial connection besides speed of HotSyncing." Hmm, don't forget that USB devices are much easier to configure for people who don't know anything about serial and COM ports. RE: USB anytime soon?I.M. Anonymous @ 5/29/2001 10:31:53 PM #
and serial and COM ports are easier for people to configure who know nothing about USB ports
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/21/2001 12:39:57 PM #
Does the Voice Recorder use a standard format or is it a proprietary one? Also is the quality good enough to feed into a recognition program like Via Voice or Dragon Dictate? RE: Voice Recorder FormatI.M. Anonymous @ 5/21/2001 1:08:41 PM #
It uses wav files recorded at 8kbps mono. RE: Voice Recorder Format
According to HandEra you can even make .wav files on your PC and move them onto the H330 and play them there, though I haven't tried this because I don't see a lot of reason for it. Also, I've heard that playback on the H330 is supposed to be good enough to use with voice recognition software but I don't have any to try it with. RE: Voice Recorder FormatI.M. Anonymous @ 5/22/2001 4:55:27 AM #
The processor on the 330 isn't powerful enough for voice recognition software. RE: Voice Recorder Format
I think what the writer was talking about was recording a voice message in wave format that could then be transferred to the desktop for recognition. The handheld dictation units that were available for Dragon Dictate worked this way. You just need to have an adequate sampling rate for it to work. RE: Voice Recorder FormatGrouchoMarx @ 5/22/2001 3:33:26 PM #
I have tried playing wav files from the desktop on my 330, and they work fine as long as they are in the right format (8-bit mono). No, it's not going to replace an mp3 player, and it's of limited usefulness. But you can do it just fine. I personally have a copy of Little Fugue in G Minor on my CF card, for the sole purpose of showing off when I'm showing my 330 to a new person. :-) --GrouchoMarx RE: Voice Recorder Format
ok..how do u know what format a .wav file is in? Also, what programs can decrease the format so it is compatible with the handera? Lastly, does anyone know of some good programs that convert mp3 to wav? RE: Voice Recorder FormatI.M. Anonymous @ 7/6/2001 7:06:17 AM #
Music Match (FREE) is a great program and will convert wav's into mp3, voice sounds pretty good at 32 kbps, which means a typical voice track will compress down to almost nothing! Cheers, PS: [my 2 cts worth] Personally, I love the HE's frankenstein approach, and the sound feature does 10x more me than color! All you people talking about color and sexy cases must be MAC users. Get over it! And all you people complaining about size, have you looked at one of those dumb Visor's?? Talk about big and UGLY! Not to mention a proprietary (insert "expensive") Springboard.... Give me a break! RE: Voice Recorder FormatI.M. Anonymous @ 12/3/2001 10:20:10 AM #
i m trying to record a wave file using handera330 emulator on palm OS first of all wether its possible to do so if yes pl can anyone tell me the way to do this and then seconly how to play the wave file.
is there any tool for that if any.tahnkx in advance venkatesh
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/21/2001 12:50:18 PM #
questions come to mind: - Only 2 MB may not take full advantage of OS 4 which the m505 has 4 MB if I am not wrong. This probably means no USB support. Gracias mucho. RE: compatibilityI.M. Anonymous @ 5/21/2001 2:53:11 PM #
In this review, Ed said the Palm Pix camera works fine. RE: PalmPix
In this review, Ed lied through his teeth. I'm afraid I've been caught being slack. I never actually took any pictures with my PalmPix camera before I added something about it to the article. I attached the camera and installed the software and everything seemed to be fine, then I went off on another tangent without taking the final step. Since reading this comment, I've actually tried and this person is completely correct, there is some incompatibility that makes taking pictures impossible. I've since removed any reference from the article and I apologize for my slackness. Thanks to the original poster for not raking me across the coals as I deserved. I've also sent an e-mail about this to my contact at Kodak. When I hear back from her, I'll let you know. RE: compatibilityI.M. Anonymous @ 5/21/2001 3:05:50 PM #
It would be nice though if all the PalmPix owners could pester Kodak to come out with a version of their software that takes advantage of the high res screen and possibly other features. One thing I would love with my PalmPix is an audible alert that goes off just prior to taking a time delayed photo. This would work even better with the Handera's speaker. RE: compatibilityGrouchoMarx @ 5/22/2001 12:25:09 AM #
Ed was only half-lying. :-) The PalmPix app is one of those programs that draws directly to the screen rather than using the API. The HandEra intercepts the API calls, but can't intercept direct hardware calls in software. (The PEG-710C intercepts them in extra hardware, one reason it costs more.) So the preview window and the display of saved pictures looks like a blob of mud at the top of the screen. The actual functionality, however, is fine. You can still take pictures and download them to your desktop, you just can't see what it is you're taking a picture of right away. It's a software issue, not hardware. I just tried it myself on my 330 and PalmPix, and the picture came through fine. --GrouchoMarx RE: compatibilityI.M. Anonymous @ 5/22/2001 8:49:29 AM #
Thats nice to know. but a palmpix app made just for the Handera would we sweet. I just sent a coment to Kodak asking for this. The link is: If anyone owns a PalmPix III and is planning on buying a H330, could we all send a note to Kodak to help speed up the process and ensure that it happens. even if you don't plan on buying one, you could help those of us out that do ;) RE: compatibilityI.M. Anonymous @ 6/13/2001 3:38:07 PM #
I just sent a comment to Kodak. Anyone received a reply?
I.M. Anonymous @ 5/21/2001 1:19:38 PM #
Thanks for the thorough review, and I look forward to part 2. Now I need to decide between the 330 and a Visor Platinum or maybe a Color Sony Clie. I'm currently using a Vx with an Omnisky but I'm looking for some of the features that the 330 is offering: voice recording, better resolution and expansion capabilities. I tried the 505 but I took it back. For a few reasons. 1- The screen worked ok, but it just wasn't what I thought it would be. I understand the need to balance brilliant color and battery life...It's right for some people (a friend of mine LOVES it) and not for others. 2- No accessories. Suddenly my keyboard, travel unit, and OmniSky became worthless. 3- My battery was at about 1/2 after two days of steady use. Maybe that would have tapered off after the initial novelty wore off, or maybe it wouldn't? I have a III series keyboard and travel sync cable so the only thing I'd have to figure out is how to supplement my OmniSky fix. So, I have a couple of hardware questions: Does anyone know if the Minstrel for the III series will work with the 330? If I had a 330 this is some of the software that I would want test: DateBk3/4 I wonder if we could substitute the regular keyboard for a virtual Fitaly keypad? RE: Great review...more questionsI.M. Anonymous @ 5/22/2001 10:41:49 AM #
I have found that the vast majority of programs work okay on the HandEra, the ones that don't tend to be graphical in nature. Most are games, or programs like TealPaint or TinyViewer. Some surprised me, like Image/Fire Viewer which worked great! HanDBase and ThinkDB work fine as does iSilo. DateBK4 works pretty well, the icons tend to look kind of dark, and the buttons for the different views come up blank. Neither is a big enough issue to bother me. RE: Great review...more questionsI.M. Anonymous @ 5/22/2001 12:45:55 PM #
hey, U should get the Handera if color is not an issue and u want to save money, or the clie if u want color and MP3s
I had a chance to get my hands on this machine at our recent Detroit PUG meeting, and I must say that the screen resolution is breathtaking. This device incorporates many features that should have been implemented before now, but I don't think any one else was bold enough to mess with things like standard resolution. As far as color is concerned, the color is not the heavy drain on the batteries, it's the associated backlight which puts on the biggest drain. This is why Palm designed the M505 with a reflective screen instead of a backlit screen. You can get the color without any of the perceived battery drain problems. Unfortunately, people are bypassing this feature and putting in the usual hack so that the backlight (actually a sidelight) is on all the time. BTW, a Palm IIIc will outlast some greyscale models with the backlight set to modest levels. It's usually when we crank them up brighter than our CRT monitors that the batteries begin to suffer. Even with brightness set to minimum, readability is as good as my greyscale Palm. And before you fire off that snappy retort, yes, I can read it in direct sunlight.
Keep up the great work HandEra!
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This is a terrific machine that Palm itself should have produced at least two years ago. Maybe now, with all their financial woes, they will finally consider this point of view.
As for me, I now would like to have color, so I'm waiting to see the Sony CLIE N710C.
But good luck and great sales to HandEra! They deserve the success they have for this fine piece of engineering.