Quickies: i705, Treo Pics, IIIc
Several readers have reported finding the Palm i705 already available in stores, most notably Mike Cane's report of finding it at the CompUSA on 5th Ave and 37th St in New York City. -Ed
Pictures of the Treo Communicator compared with lots of other handhelds were taken at the last Dalles/Ft.Worth PUG meeting. -Ross Weems
STNE Corporation sells replacement glass for the Palm IIIc for $75. It also offers internal memory upgrades for most handhelds. -Will
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RE: PDA Wireless Phones Will Revitalize the PDA Market
RE: PDA Wireless Phones Will Revitalize the PDA Market
People pay $400-$500 for PDAs all the time--it's icing on the cake to have your PDA and cell phone in one.
RE: PDA Wireless Phones Will Revitalize the PDA Market
TREO
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RE: TREO
Personaly I am going to wait untill they can do in in color and have a SD slot. I am hooked enough on my 505 I don't think I could give up those features, even if it meant one less thing I have to carry.
RE: TREO
RIM and Nextel signed a multi-year cross-licensing deal (announced by RIM yesterday). Expect first product Q4 this year in the form of a Blackberry handheld that runs on Nextel's iDen network and offer both Voice and Data.
Tiny TREO
RE: Tiny TREO
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RE: Tiny TREO
It is small.
It is a very good design, much better than
other Palm phones.
Unfortunately, they still could not sell it,
while Palm already starting to sell i705.
It should be a success. But its success dimishes
as each day HS delays its shipment.
Treo vs M100 size
RE: Treo vs M100 size
RE: Treo vs M100 size
RE: Treo vs M100 size
Treo number keys?
It seems pretty unlogical to me that you would have a keyboard with cahracters but no numbers for "out of the blue" dialing. You may not always want to dial from within your address book.
I doubt that the people in the US will catch on to SMS (short message service) that fast (in Europe, next to speaking on the phone, the most important part of the phone usage)so I would think you would have static number keys there...
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SMS
I guess it would depend on the area. I seem to use it quite a bit among my friends and work. Actually, I guess I use it a LOT. Then again, we're all on Voicestream. I can't wait till the other two networks come up on GSM.
IMPRESSIVE!
After seeing the Treo side-by-side with a Nokia 82xx series phone, I can see how Treo actually has a chance in Europe and Asia, where Nokia's GSM phones rule. It's got a form factor that completely trounces Nokia's ugly brick of a PDA-phone, the 9210 communicator.
The analysts in the US aren't giving Handspring's management enough credit. It's hard to blame them because they're coming from a different perspective.
Although color really sells to the high-end market of power users, a monochrome unit isn't really all that bad for the rest of the cellphone users out there. The price IS too steep for regular users, but I could see people actually picking the Treo over the 9210 in Europe. Take the price down a bit more, and even more people should be snapping it up. I'm betting this will attract people who've never owned a color PDA or a 9210.
The 9210 has the Treo 180 beat in terms of color and the availability of expansion through a MMC slot, but form factor is a BIG issue with cellphones. Nokia was the company that really milked the whole 'small is beautiful' idea with cellphones. With what Handspring has managed to pull off with the Treo, now it might backfire on Nokia.
Sorry if this post is getting a bit long, but to give you a bit more perspective, I use a Nokia 8850, a tiny GSM phone the same size as the 8290. I also have a CLIE N760C, which I can say is bigger than the m505 but smaller by far than the Prism. After seeing the comparison pictures, I'm finally sold on the whole 'convergence' idea. BUT I won't be one of the people falling in line for a Treo, having already been spoiled by a color PDA screen and Memory Stick expansion. These things I just cannot do without. That doesn't mean, though, that OTHER people won't be interested in the Treo, and recent market studies have show that the biggest sellers have been monochrome PDAs, showing clearly that monochrome is good enough as long as the price is right. Also, predominantly, most GSM phones in the market are STILL monochrom. Color is a luxury in cellphones, as it is still with PDAs. The price point, therefore, is VERY important, for consumers. Emphasis on CONSUMERS.
So what about the enterprise market? I also think the Treo will have a good following in the enterprise market, once the CTOs and Technical Advisors actually get demo units in their hands to play with and get over the fact that it's not a color PDA. I believe that being a Palm OS device is an advantage that the Treo has over the 9210's Symbian OS. The Treo brings with it A LOT of apps that allow synchronization with office tools, like Documents to Go and the like. Symbian will probably have a harder time getting as wide an application base as the Palm OS already has. Handspring has to show everyone what the Palm OS can do for the enterprise, and emphasize that the Palm OS makes everything available to the enterprise.
I hope Handspring is reading this! The Treo has a lot of value, and they ought to be promoted more. I used to ask, "What was Handspring thinking?" Now, it's: "When are they going to start selling those things over here in Asia??" Handspring's got a chance, but they have to really get this thing out there.
RE: IMPRESSIVE!
1) Lack of memory expansion. 16Mb is better then 8, but I use a total of 40 (8+32 SD) on my 505.
2) High Cost of GSM data calls in the US + You need an dial up ISP account.
3) Low data dates
(2 and 3 may get better with GPRS, but so far the US GPRS plans I've seen, i.e. voicestreams, are pretty pricy)
4) no Email notification (unless you somehow redirect to SMS).
5) Pricey !! $539 w/out a new activation
The San Jose Mercury reviewed it (http://www0.mercurycenter.com/premium/business/docs/techtest17.htm) and had a couple of important comments:
- Trouble connecting a lot of the time.
- Questionable e-mail app.
RE: IMPRESSIVE!
2.)Sorry, but the rest of the world already uses GSM and GPRS with extreme success. The US is not the only one in the world, so neither is the market (thank goodness). BTW that's why Europe is getting the first TREOS from HS and not the States.
3.) check 2.)
4.) depends on which account you have, I would suspect in connection with GSM. It works here (Europe).
5.) With an account subsidising plan, it'll be very much cheaper. Besides freaks buy faster! ;-)
As far as the color TREO is concerned if the screen is the same as the new european Ericsson T68 then I don't want it. Looking at that screen (T68) in the sun just makes the screen TOTALLY unreadable. Very bad!! So HS needs to go in the field (preferably Arizona in summer) and double check on the color screen readability.
i705 will be announced monday, it is official
New Palm Handheld Coming Monday
On January 28, Palm is releasing a new handheld computer that will make it even easier for you to stay on top of your busy world. Check back on Monday, and all will be revealed.
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I just bought the i705!
They hadn't put them out yet.
Already am thrilled!
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