Tidbits About the NR Series

The decision to use PalmOS will be Ericsson's decision, and from what I can see, they have no plans to do so.

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The decision to use a certain machine with a certain operating system for business is more complex than that imho.
Important factors are network connectivity, administration tools, effort required to train both users and administrators, availability of peripherals, availability of service, availability of software that can be embedded in a company's software strategy and probably something else I forgot like cost of ownership throughout the life-cycle.

While it may not seem such a good idea to make a miniature windows OS for ppc's from a quality point of view, it does answer most of the points mentioned above. It simply feels familiar, including the blue screens, and doesn't need a lot of training.
Palm machines also score heavily on these points. Sony doesn't.

Business IT administrators don't like fast changes in hard and software. It makes their job more and more complex. They prefer a more stable platform.
Palm support is available worldwide. I don't know about Sony.
Palm peripherals are made by tons of companies, including networking stuff and also hardware for vertical markets. None of that for Sony.

No matter how much I appreciate the pioneering efforts of Sony, I would never recommend a company to invest in Sony machines for their Palm OS devices.
And with Handspring effectively killing off an entire product line in a single press conference I don't think that is a good move either. It takes years to restore the confidence of both the market and manufacturers that use the handspring platform.

At the moment there is no alternative for Palm hardware but Palm for a business buyer.
Companies with an installed base of Palms might have a look at HandEra. These are clearly aimed at the business power user. Limited availability is a problem, however.

Last but not least: Sony has never marketed their devices as being business tools either.

Cheers,
Jan

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You're perfect for a marketing droid position at any major corporation. I will provide good references for you.

US$500 for the US, no camera and possibly NOT 10MB ROM...

rip off...?

US$500 for the US, no camera and possibly NOT 10MB ROM... <<<<<

They both have the same RAM as for ROM the japanese language needs more, english does not so why have it? Are you out hunting for ripoffs?
Maybe you should go buy the cheapest, Japanese pda you can find. I'm sure you will love it.

Besides which, you need to give up on storing things in ROM. It's a desperate measure left over from the days when Palm handhelds didn't have memory cards. It's as outdated as the buggy whip.

This isn't a feature of the handhelds Sony is giving its Japanese customers and denying you. In fact, using any of those apps to store things in ROM is a violation of your warranty.

First off, not everyone uses their memory card for backup, therefore having a copy of the more critical applications stored in ROM is definitely worth it in the event of a hard reset.

Secondly, memory cards are notoriously slow, so I rather have more data in ROM than on the cards.
Give me 10MB ROM ANYTIME over a 32mb memory card!

>They both have the same RAM as for ROM the japanese >language needs more, english does not so why have it? >Are you out hunting for ripoffs?
>Maybe you should go buy the cheapest, Japanese pda >you can find. I'm sure you will love it.

That is about the dumbest thing I have heard!

What I meant was that Sony is selling a product for well over $100 more (still to be confirmed) with possibly less ROM compared to what it is selling for in Japan.

One CAN use the additional ROM. If your pea-brain has not figured this out yet, tough!

Maybe you should go back to your cave.

Its supply and demand AND import export. A Honda is cheaper in Japan than it is here in the states.

It costs sony a pretty nickle to supply the US with these Clies. It is also a sign that the Clies sell better here than they do in Japan.

It's another language. It seems inefficient to you maybe because you do not know it? I write Chinese, in some ways similar to Japanese. It's not inefficient, just different.

There's also a CF-sled for the "T"-series but it's not offered here (yet?)

Other interesting accessories for the NR70-series include an auxilliary battery pack (PEGA-BC10) and screen protectors (PEGA-SP70)

Check out: http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PEG/PEG-NR70V/acc.html

http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=3193&MODE=FLAT

That day will come...just not in the near future

Eventually all high ends models become less-high end models.

The quicker the innovation, the sooner the 'downgrades' to less-high end models...

This isn't a complaint. It's the way it works with lots of products. Cars, for instance. Houses, too.

Sony will corner the market for those who want a cool device with all the extras (including price).

I have no need for all the whiz-bang features... just give me a good screen, long battery life, lots-o-memory, and the ability to use CF and SD/MMC devices (for serial, Ethernet, wireless, etc.)… So I can eliminate the need to carry a laptop.

They might price it as $399 and $499 if they want to dominate the high end Palm market. If not, it will be $499 and $599.

$499 would be similar to what 710/760 were when they first came out without the camera.

If I were Sony, I would take the middle road and price them to be $449 and $549 to be competitive with PocketPC devices.

1. it is "big" (the biggest Palm OS device so far ?)
2. it is heavy (even more than Prism)
3. finish is similar to N760C. Keyboard is very nice, though I am not allow to try (no battery - the shopkeeper said :-(

Thanks