Quickies: Canada, Smartphones, NR Series, and More

Posted By: As Listed Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:19:33 AM

According to Evans Research, 71% of handhelds sold in Canada last year were made by Palm and 85% of all handhelds shipped in that country ran the Palm OS. An IDC Canada study showed that 84% of Canadian corporations surveyed are currently using Palm-branded handhelds. -PR

Roughly 10 million smartphones will be sold this year, according to a study by In-Stat/MDR. It goes on to predict that sales will grow slowly, to 16 million in 2006. -PR

Sony Japan has released Palm OS Emulator ROM images for the NR70 and NR70V on its developer site. They are not yet available on the U.S. version. -Alan

As a reminder, though Palm has stopped making them, the m505 is still available from the Palm Store for $350. -Zan Hect

Robert Jen has released Alphabet Rhyme Time 1.0.0, which teaches the alphabet to young children using music, graphics, and an original poem. -PR

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Canada Rocks!

big_raji @ 4/11/2002 9:38:34 AM #

I'm not sure what stores are like in the US, but when I walk into a Future Shop, Staples, or Office Depot, the PDA displays are predominantly Palm.

There is usually every single current model of Palm's, several models of Palms being "phased out", Handspring Visors, a couple of Clie's, two Blackberries, one HP Jornada, one Compaq Ipaq, and one Casio WinCE device.

I'm not complaining or anything, but aren't there more Windows PDA's out there than just the three models that are usually on display?

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RE: Canada Rocks!

peter167 @ 4/11/2002 9:52:37 AM #

I saw a booth that shows the complete line-up, including accessories, for the HP Jornada @ the Office Place. But it seems that not many people have shown interest because of its monstrous price!!! I recall it is about CDN$899 including a free case or keyboard. CDN$899 can buy a very fast PC (without a monitor) up here. And the worst thing is that 15% tax rate in Ontario!!!

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RE: Canada Rocks!

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/11/2002 10:02:12 AM #

I would like to know what total sales of pda's are in Canada. It seems we have a good market, but it takes a while to get product (i.e. any sony product - had to order mine from US).

RE: Canada Rocks!

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/11/2002 12:19:14 PM #

Interesting, because every time I walk up to a display in Canada, the salesperson is pushing Windows, not Palm. Even though the displayed models are predominantly Palm.

RE: Canada Rocks!

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/11/2002 12:32:44 PM #

"Interesting, because every time I walk up to a display in Canada, the salesperson is pushing Windows, not Palm. Even though the displayed models are predominantly Palm."

We canadians are smart enough to realise that commissioned sales people are to be taken with a grain of salt.

RE: Canada Rocks!

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/11/2002 1:26:42 PM #

"And the worst thing is that 15% tax rate in Ontario!!!"

If you're an American visiting Canada, remember to file for your GST rebate. You get half of the 15% tax back. With current exchange rates, it makes buying things in Canada a good idea.

RE: Canada Rocks!

peter167 @ 4/11/2002 4:23:27 PM #

"If you're an American visiting Canada, remember to file for your GST rebate. You get half of the 15% tax back. With current exchange rates, it makes buying things in Canada a good idea."

But the problem is that the Canadian units are priced based on $US, which means you are just paying the same amount of money in $Cdn currency. The worse is there are not many competition up here, which means generally they sell like MSRP prices. And there is tax! 15% in Ontario is ridiculously high, compared with anywhere in the world!!! You have to even pay 7% @ McDonalds if the amount is less than or equal to $4. YOu have to pay 15% if it is $4.01.

Not many to complain....

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RE: Canada Rocks!

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/11/2002 5:00:26 PM #

Here in the Chicagoland area (USA), the "weekend" newspaper advertisements have recently been showing around 4 to 8 ads for Palm OS devices, and 0 to 1 CE devices (per store). About 6 or more months ago the trend was more 50%/50%. The ads I am talking about a generally from CompUSA, Best Buy, Office Max, and Office Depot. Guess that shows where the retail chains are seeing best to put their advertising dollars.

American who once lived in Ontario

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/12/2002 8:18:58 AM #

When I lived in Toronto about 3 yrs ago, I had my colleague in the US purchase the IIIc for me, where she interofficed it to me (to avoid the duty I think-- global company). Otherwise I would have paid a lot more. Beautiful, absolutely beautiful country, great people,but the taxes and high cost of living killed me so I moved back.

-R.

RE: Canada Rocks!

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$350 for a m505??!?

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/11/2002 10:45:41 AM #

Price the remaining ones around $200 and maybe they'll sell...

RE: $350 for a m505??!?

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/11/2002 11:14:02 AM #

I partially agree, though $250 - $300 seems more reasonable. Used ones are selling for over $200 on eBay.

RE: $350 for a m505??!?

big_raji @ 4/11/2002 11:44:52 AM #

Under $300 seems very reasonable... Same specs as the m130 priced at $300... Better form factor is a plus, but the risk of a static problem still lingering, as well as a dimly lit screen should push the price down lower than the m130.

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Canada sells old handhelds..

dhchung @ 4/11/2002 2:47:03 PM #

I believe that Sony T415 and S360 weren't available in Canada until last month. And ironically T415 was discontinued this month...
N760 weren't available until Dec 2001..
Many other major brands handhelds weren't available until new model is about to come out
That's why most of my friend and myself decide to buy PDA from eBay or in Hong Kong instead.
Really hope that Canadaian stores can catch up new products in quicker pace.

RE: Canada sells old handhelds..

big_raji @ 4/11/2002 4:44:27 PM #

That's Sony's fault, not the stores.

Sony pretty much snubs Canada... We probably won't get any NR70's until christmas, if ever....

If you also look at the exchange rate, Sony charges more for their PDAs in Canada than in the US after exchange rate. It's almost like they don't even want to sell in Canada.

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RE: Canada sells old handhelds..

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/12/2002 3:25:04 AM #

Dream on Chung. I bought a T415 in Winnipeg in late December from a Sony store. And Winnipeg usually gets stuff later than the larger metropolitan centers.

Marco

RE: Canada sells old handhelds..

big_raji @ 4/12/2002 7:51:35 AM #

Hey, I'm in Winnipeg too... and the T415 was released DAMN close to christmas here... like the 19th or 20th. What the heck was the point? Lots of people already had their shopping done by that point.

Then, 2 weeks later, they gave away a free memory stick with the T415. That was a nice slap in the face for the people that bought one.

Then, 6 weeks later, it drops in price by $150. Gah.

The T415 is something I'd like to forget. I'm sure Sony is NOT going to release the T615 in Canada, solely based on T415 sales.

Morons.

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