Rumor: Sony T650C to Include MP3 Player

Dang. I was hoping the next Clie would compete in price with the m130 not a laptop. For the few of us that actually use a pda only for work, and don't require a complete entertainment center, Sony is looking less and less attractive. Personally, I never thought there would be such a huge market for high-end
handhelds, but I wouldn't second-guess Sony. Guess I'll make the jump back to Palm.

> Sony has great ideas but in every model it seems it forgets something.

It's not "forgetting something", it's innovation, improvement, and a great business model. With tech gadgets, as soon as you get it, it is outdated. When things improve, it's not because the maker "fogot something".

"...great to have a non MP3 enabled unit for less price, not everybody needs mp3."

Right, and you should get the T615C, not T650C.

Agreed. I could give a rip about the thickness, as long as they don't go "Newton" on us.

I actually wish the units were *shorter*, like the Treo (although I'm not sure I want the Treo attached to my hip as a cell phone all day).

People make too big a deal about screen size. It was an issue with the m100, etc. because it was black & white and was poorly lit.

Actually, I wish this darn 650c was 320 x 480, but I'm not sold on the unit having to be 5 inches long in order to accomodate that.

The unit doesn't get longer to accomodate the 320x480 screen. The extra large screen just takes up the area in which the silkscreen area normally appears.

"average Japanese person can't wrap their hand around a Coke bottle"

Are you talking about the 500ml bottle or the 2L bottle? If it's the 2L bottle, I'd say you are a freak if you can warp your hand around it at the thickest point.

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After reading that you sure are pissed off. But before you fire back, think about how people with small hands must have felt when they read your post.

To *Mr. Anonymous* above me. I gave up. "One can't fight what one can't see."

I think they moved from Hartford to some place in North Carolina, and are now the Hurricanes.

Real hockey is played in Canada and the states that border it! -)

They don't come out till after the sun rises, so we're safe for a little while.

WHY should I buy products from a company that renders them obsolete 6 months after their INTRODUCTION? I won't. It's bad enough they are still hanging on to the most proprietary form of storage media on the market (memshtick) and they haven't learned their lesson from betamax or minidisc..... all this coupled with the fact that the T6XX series has unusable buttons, toothpick stylus, PPC levels of battery life, horriffic customer service and the list goes on....it's clear to see WHY sony keeps tossing units out and coming out with "new" ones, THEY'RE NOT SELLING. At least not enough to justify continued production. Think about it all you sony lovers, a company has a product that's selling like hotcakes, what are they going to do next???hmmmm suddenly discontinue it and in the process alienate most if not all of the people who just spent 400 bucks for a backup remote controller. OBVIOUSLY the T615 was not selling well. Most of sony's gains in the market are probably due to the cheap S360.

Anyway, you guys were looking for a Troll, well I would'nt call myself a troll, I'm simply stating facts about a product I was thinking of buying but now I may just go with that loser of a company called palm which according to most estimates was supposed to be down in the dumpster by now, but instead keeps gaining market share and outselling their nearest competitor by a margin of 5 to 1.

>>WHY should I buy products from a company that renders them obsolete 6 months after their INTRODUCTION? <<

ROTFL!!!!! What a country!!

Hey sandbuck & jjsoh, now we know the Troll really wakes up at around noon, and post comments at 1:40pm.

And to the Troll @ 1:40pm, when a new Sony device comes out, it does make all the existing Clie stops working & becomes a "backup remote". This logic has been repeated over & over again in various threads.

And minidisc is a huge success in Japan & Asia. In places like Japan & HongKong, nobody carries a Discman on the street -- people there use a miniDisc player/Clie for music.

Same thing for Clie -- Clie is much more popular in Asia than USA/Europe, because Japan, and maybe Asia, is Sony's primary focus. You haven't seen a Clie Advertisement on USA TV, have you?

The only thing I agree with you is the battery life.

what does ROTFL stand for?

Obsolete? Sony miles in front. Event old N600 have higher resolution and better features that palms latest m515. Its really just your point of view. Or should Sony the same model for next two years?

Look at how much Palm has changed since the Vx, isn't that really boring you?

I don't think this is unrealistic. The Handera 330 has had all of this for about a year (except color & OS5) and is a lot smaller than a laptop.

Thanks, Robrecht

(some of you guys are too easy to please)

Dear SONY (or Handera or Palm):

Here is what *I* want:

Smaller
Slimmer
Functional and ergonometric buttons
Super high-contrast anti-reflective display
Great battery life
Built-in Blootooth (or other wireless)
Palm OS 6 (forget 5.0 I want native ARM apps)

Okay. I'm an idiot.

I meant this as a response to the Kyocera request to take down the pictures, and somehow (because of lack of coffee, no doubt) confused myself in to thinking it was about the Sony.

My point is the same, just substitute "kyocera" for "sony" in the above rant. :)

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