Sony Shows New PDA Concept, Lowers Prices

Considering the square looking screen, it most likely would be 320x320. But this thing looks sooo sweet. It looks like the ultimate portable device! Very cool!!!

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"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."

-Pablo Picasso.

This looks really cool based on the small size. If this plays mp3's Sony could have a winner on their hands.

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currently using Palm m125 and waiting for Garmin iQue.

Actually, gfunk, I believe the screen is rectangular, not square. It only looks square because of the angle it is being held.

Well, it looks like it is about 6 Sony-CEO-fingers long. Maybe 4"? I dunno. It's possible it's 320*480, but it would be cutting it close. *Close.*

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I really hope this is 320x480 - and with landscape support (it would have to have lansdcape with this design - i guess). I am assuming this has a keyboard. I have heard comparisons to Gameboy Advance SP. I think (considering this is a PDA) a better comparison is the Zaurus folding PDA line. This design makes more sense then the N series because the keyboard can be larger by using the space more effectively - no space wasted like on the N-series. I hope this has a keyboard like the new Zaurus AND it is 320x480. Would be perfect.

Almost positive it's square. We had a team look at the angle he was holding it and also measure his head for a sense of proportion. Our conclusion is that the photo itself is slightly horizonally streched and that the device has a square screen.

elo

That screen is SQUARE. "Landscape-oriented," my patootie! It's SQUARE, dammit! Hold it anydamnway you ant, it's still SQUARE!!

When I saw SQUARE, I *mean* SQUARE:

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2003/0528/sony_8.jpg

-- try to fool yourself into thinking it's NOT square, and you need some sort of prescription. And I don't mean glasses, either...

Yup -- it's rectangular!

http://www.pdaavenue.com/news/Images/newclie199.jpg

K

The form factor may be nice, but it has an ugly apearance to me. If they make it more sleek, I would like it better. I know an actual release would not look exactly like this, but still. Change it.

I no longer believe it is a CLIE. See my message way at the bottom here.

The screen doesn't seem to be a touchscreen, either. It's possible it's an early alpha prototype of the PlayStation handheld gaming console due the end of next year. The screen looks somewhere between 320x320 and 320x480, so it's probably something totally different.

-Bosco
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I say the screen's kidna too small
Even though they say the smaller the better
I would prefer something bigger

I love PDAs

This is certainly a nice super square-screen PDA. I am not sure about the white color around the screen. It sucks.

I second the hinge comment. Although i REALLY love the idea of a PDA that tiny, the hinge just doesn't do it for me. Its like the unit screams "look at me! im small, portable, cute and very modern"... but then once your eye wanders to the hinge its like "um, or maybe not"

I really do love the idea of making palms so tiny, but step #1 will be to either a) lose the hinge entirely or b) redesign so it is a smidge subtler.

Understandably, this isn't the final release unit, so they might fix it up a smidge

-Pepper

I love my Palm . . . do you?

No offence Bosco - but what the hell does yr previous wish list for a new Sony line up have to do with this device? The only thing we know about the new device is that it folds in landscape orientation - you never mentioned anything about this. Not to start an argument or nit-pick - but nothing about yr list has anything to do with this, aside from the fact that it is a new design (though not "a BETTER version of these new NX's" or a TG w/VG).

Again - i dont mean to pick or sound harsh - but we already have a mike caine / pseudo-prophet :)

I didn't make it clear enough that I was referring to the price cuts on current models. It's pretty close to what I said, so I quoted it. Who knows, it might come true.

Oh great, you mentioned Mike. That's like asking for a pain in the ass.

-Bosco
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>>Oh great, you mentioned Mike. That's like asking for a pain in the ass.

LOL!

I see the error of my ways. Mike will come in and rip me a new one, so allow me to make ammends:

Mike, you still rule. Wifi is the best. Screw Bluetooth. H2200 series all the way. I want a beginning/end button in Memo Pad.

That should cover it.

-Bosco
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The screen is hinged from the long side, just like the Sharp C700. This design should be much sturdier than the NR/X/Z. I'm glad Sony makes devices for everyone - not just for some idiot's wishlist.

First question is, where is the Camera? on the hinge? Where? is it like NX/NZ factor that rotate?
ps: if you look at the other picture on Cliesource, you might see that there's a little black circle on the top left side under the screen, that might be the camera too (so the camera is facing us instead of pointing out). But that's a stupid way to place a camera (unless it's dual cameras!! :)

If the Camera is on the hinge, then you CAN'T make the hinge smaller. Check the NX80, it's the smallest they can get. So if you think about it, that hinge actually house the entire camera unit, it's not that big.

Second question, how's the camera position? like the traditional NX/NZ factor? OR (this is intersting) is on the tip of the hinge? (so len is acutally pointing to the side of the machine)

Why this would be interesting? because if the camera is on the tip of the hinge, we can 1) open the screen 90 degree, 2) twist the screen half way. Now, we have a Camcorder like machine. You hold up the Clie sideway, and you can use the screen as a view finder.

The Panasonic P2102v cell phone in Japan actually has this twist, quite interesting.

http://panasonic.jp/mobile/p2102v/index.html (in japanese)

I don't have a cell phone, I only have a P800

>>Really, if Sony revamped their lineup like this with this new NZ replacement at the top... wow. How could they go wrong?

-- by listening to YOU! Who the eff WANTS this pissant little thing? The Powerpuff Girls?

(And, yes, Bosco, old bean, I saw your PITA comment. Traitor! *YOU* are probably BlueAnon, you wanker! Talking to yourself! God knows what else you do to yourself... and He can *keep* that disgusting knowledge too!)

(And it's spelled CANE, you dimwits.)

Yeah, notice this thread was started by me saying the hinge was pug ugly. It needs redesigning. With the right specs and a slicker design, it could easily be the handheld dream of people who have always wanted a landscape model like an HPC or Zaurus with the comfort of Palm OS and still a 2 MP camera.

And I agree with you on several tough issues and you repay me by calling me a wanker??? And a dimwit for something I didn't say??? Damn you, good sir.

How dare you call me ska. Shall I start the marquee?

-Bosco
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Oh, geez, not the marquee!!

And who called who a pain in the wheresis?!

And it's a SQUARE screen, dammit! There's nothing landscape about it, period.

And I don't even believe it's a CLIE, neither.

Actually, I meant no harm by calling you a pain in the blank. I was actually trying to say it would be a pain in the blank for him to have to deal with you since he ripped on you good. I reread my post, realized it made ME look bad, and that's why I posted again referring to SEVERAL things I agree with you on to avoid exactly this. That was the point, damn it. Do I have to bold, italicize, underline, AND marquee to get the message across this time?

"And I don't even believe it's a CLIE, neither."

Read up. Neither do I. It's up in the air.

-Bosco
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Oh, stop groveling, dammit. You're so freaking insincere it ruins the pleasure.

It's pretty hard to be sincere in text without having to resort to girly AOL lingo.

Is that what you want from me? Girly AOL lingo?

Reread the thread.

-Bosco
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The Moon is made of cheese.

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hehe calamari, I bought a GBASP.

my nx isnt a brick, it's clamshell (means no need for a case) and is 320x480 :( the NZ is a brick

Me again. Think about how much smaller and cooler this could be without those hinges.

Thanks, robrecht

Of course the thumboard is great for a gameboy, but who needs a gameboy after 6th grade.

Thanks, robrecht

I do. I really like my Game Boy Advanced SP, which works very well as a gaming device. The clamshell also helps protect the screen and controls, reducing the need for a case.

Here at Metrowerks, we have lots of people using PageWriters, which are small and rugged two-way pagers with a clamshell design, and they seem to like those fairly well.

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Ben Combee, CodeWarrior for Palm OS technical lead
Programming help at www.palmoswerks.com

Actually on this one, I would imagine you could touchtype. It would be a little cramped, but you could fit in a lot more text than with a thumbboard.

They just need to redesign it a little bit, and it'll be ready for primetime.

-Bosco
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I know I got a little carried away. Does this thing have a pill box for lithium? I know how popular those Blackberries are in the corporate world too. I just wish SONY would release a high-end PDA without a thumboard. I apologize to all 6th graders.

Thanks, robrecht

Think - new Zaurus clamshell - not gameboy advance sp. The space is not wasted like on the current N series - so you caould have a larger 'touch type-ish' keyboard like on the new Zaurus:

http://www.sibelle.info/gadgets/fold.htm

I would love to have that form-factor for a PalmOS device. The only way the N-series clamshell / keyboard design would have made sense is if they used that vaste tract of real-estate below the keyboard for a decent D-Pad. Alas - they wasted it.