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StyleTap Now Available for iPhone OS

styletap for iphone StyleTap has released a version of its StyleTap Platform for the Apple iPhone and iPod Touch devices. StyleTap is a Palm OS emulator that allows users to run original Palm OS applications on a "jailbroken" iPhone OS device.

StyleTap Platform for iPhone supports standard features that include TCP/IP networking, audio recording and playback, the ability to use the multi-gigabyte storage as a virtual memory card, and cut/copy/paste of text between native and Palm OS applications. It also provides innovative capabilities such as giving Palm OS applications access to the iPhone GPS by providing location information in standard GPS NMEA format.

StyleTap will run most Palm OS apps in a 320 x 320 display mode and should be compatible with most apps written for Palm OS 5.2. StyleTap also supports Palm OS programs that use native ARM code (PNOs, often called "ARMlets"). For button functionality a series of four virtual function buttons are provided as well as an onscreen virtual keyboard and directional pad.

"We have found that many users and businesses have made very large investments in acquiring and developing mobile applications, and these applications have been enhanced and refined to fit their needs like a glove," said Gregory Sokoloff, CEO of StyleTap. "With all the new smartphone platforms, users are reluctant to lock themselves into one platform or to make the same investment over and over for each new platform. StyleTap's cross-platform family of products can help make these problems go away.

"Naturally, we would prefer to be able to offer this product through the App Store, but unfortunately this is not currently possible due to Apple's restrictive policies, and instead this version of StyleTap will run on jailbroken devices. Although there are many useful and entertaining applications available through the Apple App Store, we continue to receive a flood of emails from users telling us that they need StyleTap in order to keep running the applications, not available on the App Store, that are critical to their lives and businesses."

StyleTap for iPhone v0.9 supports jailbroken devices running iPhone v3.x. Interested users and developers can visit styletap.com/iphone for instructions on obtaining a free 14-day trial of the iPhone version. A single license for StyleTap Platform for iPhone can be purchased for US$49.95.

The Styletap Platform is also available for Windows Mobile and some Symbian s60 devices.

Thanks to Mike Cane for the tip.

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Pre Killer?

swieder @ 3/24/2010 11:39:05 AM # Q
If I could get DateBk6 running on an iPhone that could be the last straw for me. I need synching support with Outlook.
RE: Pre Killer?
jca666us @ 3/24/2010 2:39:48 PM # M Q
How can you kill what is already dead??
RE: Pre Killer?
hkklife @ 3/24/2010 2:50:51 PM # Q
It's FRANKENGarnet....it's the undead, remember!?!?!


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Ferrari

Gekko @ 3/24/2010 3:10:26 PM # Q

why buy a Ferrari only to tow it around with an Edsel???????????????????


RE: Ferrari
mikecane @ 3/24/2010 4:09:28 PM # Q
So, your Centro is an Edsel, huh?
RE: Ferrari
Gekko @ 3/24/2010 5:06:59 PM # Q

the 2010 equivalent, yes.

RE: Ferrari
mikecane @ 3/24/2010 5:12:50 PM # Q
And yet it can do the streaming audio you crave. Fickle lad you are.
RE: Ferrari
Gekko @ 3/24/2010 5:31:46 PM # Q

life is all about compromises and priorities. however, i trust that the Android platform has apps that will stream mms asx wma formats OR will have them shortly. my choices are -

1. dead platform
2. dying platform
3. thriving platform

i have to move on.

RE: Ferrari
LiveFaith @ 3/24/2010 7:38:27 PM # Q
Don't do it man. Go with dying one.
Pat Horne
RE: Ferrari
CFreymarc @ 3/25/2010 11:21:38 AM # Q
I would not call Palm OS 5 an Edsel. It was a good OS that wasn't updated and then canceled for a totally new design that wasn't backwards compatible.

If there is any automotive analogy of recent history, it would have to be the Palm OS 5 is Pontiac Firebird. That is, was affordability priced, neglected a lot for updates, company almost went insolvent and then it was dropped cold.

I think the jury is out on webOS still. Technically, it kicks ass, if it gets out to the market for solvency that is another issue. From that I see webOS as the Studebaker Avanti.


RE: Ferrari
e_tellurian @ 3/25/2010 11:35:50 AM # M Q
To some a long surviving brand is an asset. A pioneer is a leader they have been where many are going today. Perhaps Palm is a jeep making its own trail.

E-T

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SWEEEET!!!!

Tuckermaclain @ 3/24/2010 3:32:48 PM # Q
Good bye forever Palm! You've abandoned the Faithful and now we can do the same. You can take your Web OS and do whatever you like with it--I don't care. I'm a Palm Die Hard and I can have a good phone where I can access all my favorite legacy apps with great form factor. You wouldn't do it. I'll have WiFi. Great web browsing (sans Blazer) and thousands of other app choices I never dreamed about. I'm as excited as the day I got my Vx and discovered PalmGear. I KNEW this would happen!!! HAAA!!
RE: SWEEEET!!!!
Gekko @ 3/24/2010 3:51:05 PM # Q

what PalmOS app(s) is so unique and critical for you?

RE: SWEEEET!!!!
SeldomVisitor @ 3/24/2010 4:02:00 PM # Q
Gekko wrote:

what PalmOS app(s) is so unique and critical for you?

TealOS!

RE: SWEEEET!!!!
mikecane @ 3/24/2010 4:08:47 PM # Q
TealOS?!!? FFS, see this baseball bat? Now hold still.
RE: SWEEEET!!!!
vetdoctor @ 3/24/2010 8:30:00 PM # M Q
DB forum says no conduit for ST on the iphone, no mpving calendar date from Outlook to phone.
RE: SWEEEET!!!!
Neo Cortex @ 3/25/2010 12:08:03 AM # Q
Tried StyleTap on WnMob and Symbian. Didn't run my favourite programs at all well. Not impressed. Is this version any different? Expensive too.
RE: SWEEEET!!!!
CFreymarc @ 3/25/2010 1:58:52 PM # Q
I have to agree. There is a HUGE Palm OS 5 legacy market that Palm kicked to the curb with the release of Palm OS. Yeah, there is this Palm OS 5 legacy support but on such a small screen size as the Pre, it doesn't jive.
RE: SWEEEET!!!!
Tuckermaclain @ 3/25/2010 6:34:48 PM # Q
"what PalmOS app(s) is so unique and critical for you?"

Well, I like the OS. As you probably already know from prior posts over the last 5 years, I'm a military physician. I have found myself in places with virtually no support working in specialties I don't normally work in. For example, in 2002 I was part of a hospital in a bunch of tents in Guam after one of their "super-typhoons" damaged Guam Memorial Hospital. I had to take care of critical ICU patients because I was the only one there at the time. Normally I would be delivering a baby or be doing a hysterectomy. When people are that sick there's not a lot of room for error. I can have it all on my phone instead of relying on a small library to be there. I have about 20 Skyscape apps and a bunch of calculators for IV drips for various drugs, ventilator settings, trauma, etc. They are great when you don't remember the specifics. There are other apps I really like that make my life easier, especially for patient tracking. Most of those that I use are old OS3-5 programs that are available on no other OS. The Skycape apps would cost me over 1.5K$ to get on the iphone. So for me, I'll always have a T2 or a TX if I moved to another platform. It just works for me. The legacy apps are what I use and I want to keep using them. With styletap making them available for me on the iphone I can move past the Centro and the teeny screen. If you get what you want in Web OS then great. Unfortunately for me I can't get ALL I want.

RE: SWEEEET!!!!
e_tellurian @ 3/25/2010 7:25:54 PM # M Q
Tuckermaclain the most important thing to say is thank you for your service. You make a difference in the lives of service men and women. With the great minds of Palm past, present and future hope they can accommodate your request.

Thanks

E-T

RE: SWEEEET!!!!
hotpaw4 @ 3/26/2010 4:29:11 PM # Q
> what PalmOS app(s) is so unique and critical for you?

There are a couple apps that aren't acceptable according to the iPhone App store rules. Other than that, it's not any particular app, it's the data in about a half-dozen little apps (the long tail) that I don't want to re-enter on my iPhone or my Android dev phone, plus a bunch of small work-flow habits that I don't want to relearn again.

Competitors to Google search, the iPhone App store, and legacy PalmOS apps, don't realize the value of the "long tail": that mass of search terms and apps that are statistically minuscule, but almost everybody wants one or two of on occasion.


RE: SWEEEET!!!!
Caitoz @ 4/1/2010 7:45:13 AM # Q
"what PalmOS app(s) is so unique and critical for you?"

Skyscape apps and medical software. You just can't have all the medical software you could have installed on a Palm in ANY of the other OS out there. On the iPhone? took a year just to get ePocrates...

My Palm OS device is as important as my white coat or my stethoscope at work... or even perhaps more important: I could use my colleague's white coat or stethoscope, but I could never use my colleague's iPhone/Android device the same way I use my Palm. You really need to be a doctor to understand it.... white coat, stethoscope, otoscope, ophthalmoscope, reflex hammer, Palm... all go together...
Palm T2--LifeDrive--TX

RE: SWEEEET!!!!
sford @ 4/24/2010 8:37:53 AM # Q
"what PalmOS app(s) is so unique and critical for you?"

Agendus
Adarian Money
MyBible (Laridian) and all the readers and books I've since added
ThoughtManager (HandsHigh)
Warfare, Inc.
DocsToGo
Since 1996: Pilot Pro, III, IIIe, Nino (yeah...oops!), IIIc, VIIx, m505, NR70V, NZ90, NX60, T3, Zire 72s, NX80V, Treo 90, Treo 650

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HotSync

swieder @ 3/25/2010 9:30:48 AM # Q
According to an email that I got from StyleTap they are working on HotSync support!
RE: HotSync
mabsut @ 3/25/2010 10:23:26 AM # Q
Wow! If they make that work, I'm sold. I will still miss a physical keyboard though...
RE: HotSync
LiveFaith @ 3/25/2010 10:24:34 AM # M Q
TealOS! Best laugh in 2 days. People in this restaraunt must think I'm drunk. :-)
RE: HotSync
e_tellurian @ 3/25/2010 10:59:57 AM # M Q
Marketing 101 give the people what they want.

E-T

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Marketing 101 is definitely the answer

hgoldner @ 3/25/2010 3:43:02 PM # Q
Not going to get embroiled in the Edsel, Jeep, Ferrari discussion. Fact is, my Garnet running Treo 755p has been more stable in the months since its platform was abandoned by developers than in more than a decade of Palm OS usage. No resets in months. Nada.

Meanwhile, if people want to graft Palm OS applets onto an iPhone, why the heck not? Didn't we run Atari programs on our Palms? Aren't there Commodore 64 emulators running on far more powerful units?

Why would anyone find this anything other than exactly what technology and marketing is supposed to do?


RE: Marketing 101 is definitely the answer
LiveFaith @ 3/25/2010 4:29:24 PM # M Q
No crashes since devs abandoned it? That reminds me of what woukd happen if the government stayed out of the citizens loves. Hmmmmm.
RE: Marketing 101 is definitely the answer
e_tellurian @ 3/25/2010 6:08:17 PM # M Q
Trying to find out if people would choose an interactive Palm Classic. The only way to find out is to ask the people that choose Palm. The stock might be a good indicator. If people want an interactive Palm Classic the stock could indicate by going up. It would show a direction Palm could go in. This question will need much input from the people of Palm past, present and future.

Please share your thoughts too.

E-T

RE: Marketing 101 is definitely the answer
gmayhak @ 3/25/2010 7:55:51 PM # Q
E-T, here's my thoughts...

Palm Classic could have evolved to 'leader of the pack' but they gave up years ago and anything they do now will be too little too late to make any difference in where the market is going today. Most developers won't waste their time on a company that dropped them cold and has stock that looks like it fell of a cliff.

I don't think I am the only X Palm loyalist that is hard at work upgrading iPhone apps for the Grand Opening of the iPad app store for a company that's been named World's Most Admired Company by Fortune Magazine for three years in a row...
http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/02/news/companies/most_admired_companies.fortune/

Palm OS Made Palm, WebOS Killed them.

Gary
Tech Center Labs

RE: Marketing 101 is definitely the answer
LiveFaith @ 3/25/2010 8:36:32 PM # Q
WebOs KILLED them? Would that not be more like "WebOS finally pulled the plug on the company that has been in trauma and on life support for years"?
I do see your point though. What could have been had Palm poured all those resources into Palm OS. Then again, could they when they did not even own it?
Pat Horne
RE: Marketing 101 is definitely the answer
e_tellurian @ 3/25/2010 8:54:26 PM # M Q
It's not going to be easy to build a Palm Classic. Its warming to hear from the people that helped to build Palm. It is sad that so much hurt was caused by the changes one hopes it was not intentional and that perhaps trying to be like others made Palm developers become what Palm was trying to become.

It is not too late to make more for developers to do. Palm will always be your roots. Palm will need to work hard and thoughtfully to regain the people that were inadvertently taken for granted.

An apology will not make it right perhaps more work will.

Thank you for your candid thoughts.

E-T

RE: Marketing 101 is definitely the answer
BaalthazaaR @ 3/25/2010 10:33:30 PM # Q
LiveFaith wrote:
WebOs KILLED them? Would that not be more like "WebOS finally pulled the plug on the company that has been in trauma and on life support for years"?
I do see your point though. What could have been had Palm poured all those resources into Palm OS. Then again, could they when they did not even own it?

I seem to remember that they has rather generous terms when they got the license to GarnetOS after Access took over.

RE: Marketing 101 is definitely the answer
e_tellurian @ 3/26/2010 10:09:11 AM # Q
Well the stock went up. Perhaps a sign that the Palm Classic has a market or enough market to build Palm Classic. How much does the stock have to rise to be sure that enough people would choose a Palm Classic?

Many people are taking risks on Palm. Some are risking that they fail, others are risking that Palm succeeds to continue their pioneering spirit of innovation.

E-T
e-tellurian

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Pre-pay -Pre-killing Android

mikecane @ 3/26/2010 12:42:32 PM # Q
Kyocera to Release $169 Pre-paid Android Phone
http://www.thechromesource.com/kyocera-to-release-169-pre-paid-android-phone

No, it's not the fastest or sleekest phone.

But if it gets on MetroPCS, it will frikkin rule.

There's a MetroPCS store in my area and it's the one damned business that never looks like a ghost town. There are people in it *every damn day*.

RE: Pre-pay -Pre-killing Android
mikecane @ 3/26/2010 12:43:40 PM # Q
And I should have mentioned, I've gone in that store to look at the phone offerings too.

The phones they have are crap. This thing would even tempt me.

RE: Pre-pay -Pre-killing Android
Gekko @ 3/26/2010 1:18:55 PM # Q

interesting. but you really need an unlimited data plan to take full advantage of a phone like this. hence, you'd be better off buying the $69/Month Sprint "Simply Everything" Unlimited Data/Mobile to Mobile Voice/Text/GPS Plan IMO. cut your landline if you have one and apply the savings.

don't be penny wise and pound foolish.


RE: Pre-pay -Pre-killing Android
hkklife @ 3/26/2010 1:45:03 PM # Q
That Kyocera looks sweet for the asking price! This is basically the spiritual successor of the TX and/or an iPod Touch that runs Android. I wonder if you can just buy one and start using it in "PDA" mode over wi-fi or if it has an onerous "initial activation" you have to go through over carrier service. Even if so, you pay a few bucks upfront then use it over wi-fi from there.

Heck, I probably would have bought one just to carry around for trips & emergency-type situations had I not jumped ship to the Droid. And not everyone I know that has a pre-paid phone has bad credit or lives paycheck to paycheck. I know plenty of people who basically don't need more than ~30 mins a week of wireless calling (senior citizens, technophobes). In fact, I helped several European corporate types get going with a temporary cell phones while in the USA for an extended 3-week consultancy trip. It was easier & cheaper to buy a few $40 flip phones and a bunch of pre-paid minutes than to pay through the nose for international roaming on their GSM handsets.

Years and years and years ago I said that Palm needed to take what was essentially the T|W tech (OS 4, QWERTY keyboard) and release a DATA-CENTRIC wireless handheld. Basically a web/email data-centric wireless PDA.

Palm could have started by offering it with WWAN + BT on post-paid carrier and then eventually migrated it to someone like Virgin Mobile or MetroPCS or TracFone in an updated WWAN + wi-fi (assuming FrankenGarnet could have supported that combination of radios).
Such a beast could have beaten the Peek (and this device) to the market by years and kept Garnet around almost indefinitely on the lowest of the low-end market. Even the Z22 innards mated to a cheap EDGE radio would've been a perfect device circa 2006-2008 in the pre-paid wireless market.
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RE: Pre-pay -Pre-killing Android
richf @ 3/26/2010 4:40:01 PM # Q
If you get one of these buy your minutes by the thousands. My android can't do anything without accessing the web. These web based operating systems are not what I'm looking for. This damn thing receives update notifications in the middle of the night. Palm better go to an os that stores your data locally. This cloud for everything is bs. All this being said I am not going to throw the Droid in the trash can. I still have 18 months to go for an upgrade.
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