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Sony Releases Three New Clie Handhelds

Sony has released three new handhelds today at the PalmSource developer conference. The new TH55 features built in wifi, camera and a 320x480 screen in a slim form factor. Sony has also cranked out two others, the TJ27 a entry level model with a built in camera and the similar TJ37 which adds integrated wifi.

Sony Clie TH55The TH55 runs Palm OS 5.2.1 and has a high res+ 320x480 pixel, TFT 65k color screen. The model features built in Wi-Fi (802.11b) as well as an, 300k pixel VGA digital camera on the back, IR port, stereo headphone output jack and a Memory Stick PRO slot. It comes with 32MB of RAM, of which the full 32MB is user available. The handheld

Its dimensions are approximately 3 × 4 7/ 8 × 17/ 32 inches (73.3 × 121.5 × 13.4 mm) (w/h/d). With the cover attached it is approx. 3 × 4 / 8 × / 8 inches (73.3 × 121.5 × 15.7 mm). It weighs 5.8 oz (165 g) without the cover, 20g more with it attached.

Internally the TH55 runs the Sony "Handheld engine" the sony custom chip-set that first debuted on the UX50. The engine comprises of a Sony manufactured ARM926 based processor, a Digital Signal Processor (DSP), and a CXD2230GA graphics accelerator. The processor speed varies between 8 MHz and 123 MHz, to prolong battery life and varies the speed depending on system demand. Sony claims the TH55 has excellent battery performance citing over 20 hours of music playback or 7 hours movie playback on a single charge.

This unit's front-side is dominated by the large portrait only display and has row of small of application buttons along the bottom. It has a integrated clear flip cover, similar to the TG50, to protect the display. On the backside of the device, is a built in camera, which has a retractable lens cover. Above the camera is a different, top rear center mounted jog dial with left and right directional arrows and a back button. The unit is powered by a rechargeable lithium ion polymer battery.

The TH55 will include a new PIM suite developed by Sony called the Clie Organizer. The new software builds on the classic Palm OS PIM functionality, and adds a new level of multimedia and organizational functionality.

Sony Clie TJ37The TJ37 has a 320x320 pixel, 65K TFT color screen and a built in 300k pixel VGA camera on the back. For number crunching is has a 200 MHz Motorola i.MXL dragonball ARM processor. For memory the model has 32MB of RAM (of which 23MB user accessible). It also has a IR port, stereo headphone out jack and a Memory Stick slot. The TJ27 shares all the above features but leaves out the wifi, mp3 audio but has a slimmer case.

When you register on of the three new devices, Sony will send a download link for a free copy of DataViz Documents To Go Professional Edition version 6.0 application suite for viewing office documents including Microsoft® Word and Excel software files.

The new devices will be available in March, pre-orders are now being taken at SonyStyle.com. The TH55 retails for $399 USD, the TJ37 is $299 and the TJ27 debuts at $199.

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Finally

Bartman007 @ 2/10/2004 11:18:12 PM #
A PalmOS handheld that offers built-in Wifi, and high resolution color for under $300!
Looks like Sony may finally be listening to customers...
As for me I'm still going to wait for 320x480, WiFi, and decent buttons.


Peace,
-Bartman007

TH-55 for only $319.99!
;-) @ 2/13/2004 3:15:15 AM #
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat15202&type=category&cmp=

Who cares about the TJ-37 when you can get a TH-55 for just $20 more?


Palm's Tungsten line is about to get SMOKED. $400 for a T3? Get Serious. Try $250 - $300, Palm. This is called hardball. And little Palm can't do a bloody thing to stop it.




It's just too big.

RE: Finally
TTrules @ 2/14/2004 11:26:27 PM #
"Palm's Tungsten line is about to get smoked"

I would rather have a TT3 with the five way navigator, portate and landscape modes, and much more ram for the extra $80. I'd say it's sony's lineup that will get smoked.

One Palm to rule them all!

Sony's New(?) Stylus

jjsoh @ 2/10/2004 11:30:51 PM #
Previously, I had negative opinions about the CLIE's old stylus design (among other things) which was/is uncomfortable even with small hands, such as mine and horribly loose after a month or so of regular use. I've recommended CLIEs in the past to 3 people and they've ALL come back to me with the exact same problems: stylus falling out and battery life. And, I'm sorry, but applying a layer of tape on the end is not a solution.

However, after this announcement of new models, I decided to pay a visit to the Sony Style site and also stumbled upon their new retractable stylus:

http://tinyurl.com/2257s

Has anyone had any experience with their new one? How does it compare with the Palm Tungsten stylus (which, in my opinion, has been the most comfortable and cleverly designed to date)?

I'm not sure how long they've been offering this new design, but if it is comparable to the Palm T|T stylus, I may once again recommend CLIEs again in good conscience; especially with news of improved battery life.

Jim

RE: Sony's New(?) Stylus
bmari20007 @ 2/11/2004 1:33:51 AM #
According to the specs, it comes with a "retractable stylus" as an included accessory

http://tinyurl.com/2bhrj

Sorry for the long link, but that's where it says it.

RE: Sony's New(?) Stylus
bmari20007 @ 2/11/2004 1:35:12 AM #
okay I'm really sorry--didn't realize it would do that. Admin, a little help here? I can't edit...

RE: Sony's New(?) Stylus
otter @ 2/11/2004 5:48:46 AM #
It sucks. I have a NX80 (my main unit) and Tungsten T. The Clie stylus is useable, but pathetic. The Tungsten stylus is wonderful. After awhile the Clie stylus gets "gummed up" (mine did anyway) and stops extending when you pull it out of the silo - I have to do it manually now. I love the Clie, but hate the stylus.
RE: Sony's New(?) Stylus
JonathanChoo @ 2/12/2004 4:39:03 PM #
That stylus you linked is even smaller than the first Clie stylus and the 2nd generation stylus (as on NR70).

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Generic Casio > Psion 5> Palm Vx > m505 > Sony N770C > T625C > NR70V > Toshiba e310 > T/T > HP h2210 > T/T3

StarTac > Ericsson T28m > T39m > T68m > T610 > T630

Next PDA/Phone: T/T4 or VGA PPC or Treo 610/S-E T650

Great software deal-DTG

slingshot @ 2/10/2004 11:52:30 PM #
That is really good news that they are giving out Dataviz Documents to Go 6.0 Professional free when you register these new models. Way to go Sony and a nice marketing move.
RE: Great software deal-DTG
;-) @ 2/11/2004 12:36:26 AM #
Add up all the apps you get with the new CLIEs. The only thing missing for the average user will be a financial software program + a decent mail program. Third party developers are about to get screwed in a major way. Gotta feel sorry for WordSmith, Quickoffice, MiniCalc etc.

The new Palm Economy is getting NASTY for the little fish.


It's just too big.

RE: Great software deal-DTG
otter @ 2/11/2004 5:53:58 AM #
"Third party developers are about to get screwed in a major way. Gotta feel sorry for WordSmith, Quickoffice, MiniCalc etc."

Not all of us love or use DTG. I personally detest it - free or not - and will continue to use Wordsmith and Quicksheet.

RE: Great software deal-DTG
;-) @ 2/12/2004 3:15:03 AM #
Not all of us love or use DTG. I personally detest it - free or not - and will continue to use Wordsmith and Quicksheet.

How many people like you will buy WordSmith etc. when Documents To Go is free? Probably around 16. If you're a core app software developer and don't get your app buldled with Palm or Sony, you're toast.




It's just too big.

RE: Great software deal-DTG
Altema @ 2/12/2004 10:37:12 AM #
Make that 17. I purchased WordSmith AND upgraded to DTG Premium. Each one has strong points which make them an excellent team.

? landscape workarounds?

ashfall @ 2/11/2004 12:14:40 AM #
Does anyone know of a 3rd party app or any other way to do word processing in landscape on the TH55? (Preferably MS Word formatted).

No Bluetooth on TH-55 = Sony messing up yet another CLIE...

;-) @ 2/11/2004 12:16:14 AM #
The TH-55 would have been almost perfect at $400 if it had Bluetooth and landscape mode. This forces everyone wanting a well built PalmOS PDA (don't talk to me about Palm's self-destructing T3), Bluetooth and 320 x 480 to pay through the nose for the new UX. Then again, the UX's screen makes it all worthwhile.


It's just too big.

RE: No Bluetooth on TH-55 = Sony messing up yet another CLIE...
;-) @ 2/11/2004 12:45:53 AM #
Link to spy photo of the new CLIE to be posted here tomorrow. (If PIC dares to face the wrath of mighty Sony.) It's low res (taken with a cameraphone) but shows what you need to see. I'll check if anyone can run into NDA problems over this tomorrow since this unit is traceable.


It's just too big.

RE: No Bluetooth on TH-55 = Sony messing up yet another CLIE...
christof @ 2/11/2004 1:06:38 AM #
i, too, am pretty disappointed with the lack of bluetooth. with sony ericsson's many bluetooth phones, it really surprised me.

regardless, what can you say more about this new sony clie?

any news on a tungsten t4? or tungsten e2?

RE: No Bluetooth on TH-55 = Sony messing up yet another CLIE...
sjthomas @ 2/11/2004 1:35:54 AM #
I agree. EVERYTHING should have Bluetooth now.

RE: No Bluetooth on TH-55 = Sony messing up yet another CLIE...
hkklife @ 2/11/2004 9:19:47 AM #
I find it sickening how Sony feels Europe "deserves" BT while the US doesn't....of course, this is fed by the fact that GSM is the de facto mobile standard over there whereas it's a hodgepodge of CDMA, TDMA, & GSM.

That said, with Ericsson phones dwindling greatly in popularity amongst the domestic US carriers, the move doesn't surprise me all that much. Also, continued moves like this will put the nail in BT's coffin (at least in the US) because arrogant, sluggish companies like Verizon will see no compelling reason to offer BT-enabled phones. A true catch-22 if there ever was one in this business.

That said, PalmOne could make a grand statement by at least offering OS5 drivers for their BT card so a Sprint Treo 600 owner could really impress everyone--BT functionality (albeit from a card) & full smartphone capabilities as well. That way, T3 owning folks could leech connectivity off of their Treo 600 ownning pals!

RE: No Bluetooth on TH-55 = Sony messing up yet another CLIE...
helf @ 2/11/2004 11:49:24 AM #
ok, have any of you ever considered the fact that BT was going to be in the US model but the FCC might not have allowed it for some fscked up reason like usual? :)

I seem to remember reading that that is what happened a bit ago.. not positive.. anyone want to back me up on this?

RE: No Bluetooth on TH-55 = Sony messing up yet another CLIE...
;-) @ 2/13/2004 12:46:36 AM #
Guess again. Who would buy a $550 UX when you can get a TH-55 with 802.11b AND Bluetooth for $350?

The UX is actually selling well in the US (especially in Silly Valley) despite the fact that it costs more than a decent Windows desktop. Europeans use Bluetooth. Americans ignore it. Sony isn't dumb enough to parasitize their own boutique PDAs by selling a cheap, perfect PDA.


It's just too big.

Sony to Palm and Microsoft: "We will kick your a$$es!"

;-) @ 2/11/2004 12:29:15 AM #
As the Sony Boyz cheerleaders will say:

S O N Y ! Go Sony! Go Sony!

S O N Y ! Go Sony! Go Sony!

S O N Y ! Go Sony! Go Sony!

S O N Y ! Go Sony! Go Sony!

By the way, what's going on with PPC these days? The silence is deafening.

S O N Y ! Go Sony! Go Sony!

Resistance is futile. All your Palms are belong to me.™


It's just too big.

RE: Sony to Palm and Microsoft:
alexp @ 2/11/2004 1:28:31 PM #
Put the Pom-Poms away, there, Muffy.

Sony deserves credit for FINALLY developing a handheld in 240x320 with a standard tablet, but that's hardly innovative. There are a lot of things to like about this unit (no slider, clear flip-cover, battery life, etc.), but there are also plenty of things to dislike (stylus, Memory Stick format, no Bluetooth, no native Landscape, etc.).

Your cheerleading is reminiscent of a far-different time, when Palm would introduce a lame upgrade and Sony would follow-up with 3 units that were all much better. Let's wait until March and see what Palm releases. Or perhaps let's wait a little longer and see what PPC 2004 offers--that's why PPCs are "silent," for now, developing devices off the new OS.

And really, pom-poms just look goofy, anyway.

RE: Sony to Palm and Microsoft:
Fernando @ 2/11/2004 2:16:51 PM #
I liked the pom-poms :( ....

RE: Sony to Palm and Microsoft:
rsc1000 @ 2/11/2004 3:45:46 PM #
Whats the freaking big deal about these unit6? Why all of the clueless fanboys? I've got news for you: the new Dell Axim X3i is 400Mhz/64mb ram/full VG/ w/built in wifi - all for $300. Better stats than the Clie in every way (except actual screen resolution) for $100 less! No im not a PPC troll - i love Palm OS but wish Sony would actually produce an exciting unit at a good price - but apparently they dont have to to get un-discerning fanboys excited enough to buy their drek. Did i mention that this has the worst buttons/controls of any PDA every produced (even worse than any other Sony unit?).

Say you like it - fine. But acting like this overpriced but underpowered (123mhz) device is some sort of second-coming - its just embarassing to read.

RE: Sony to Palm and Microsoft:
mikecane @ 2/11/2004 5:37:53 PM #
Fanboyz?! Not here.

I like it because it'll be a huge upgrade from my S320. Hires+ color, built-in WiFi, etc. And all in a one-piece device *with* a flip lid.

I could do w/o the camera for a proper JogDial, but so what? I'll (I hope) adapt.

Oh yeah: 24 hrs of MP3 playing. About 5 hours of WiFi. That's not exciting?

RE: Sony to Palm and Microsoft:
Wollombi @ 2/11/2004 8:07:57 PM #
;-), slither back to ClieSource, where mindless fanboys are always welcome. This isn't a "Sonly Savior" of a PDA. Not hardly.

The T3 hasn't self-destructed since the update, which now ships in ROM. Discounting it out of hand (did you ever own, use, or even hold one?) only displays a lack of reason and plenty of ignorance/arrogance. No, it's not perfect either, but it's a tablet hi-res+ PalmOS PDA, and out LONG before Sonly could seem to manage it.
If you want to talk about a PDA that sucks (oh, wait, you did) the UX is it. The screen makes it worth it? Hah! How can a 2" screen be worth it? Hell, the Fossil watch would have had a larger screen had it come to market.

Mike, did you realize you're now defending your nemesis?

_________________
Sean

Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.

RE: Sony to Palm and Microsoft:
mikecane @ 2/12/2004 8:51:22 AM #
>>>Mike, did you realize you're now defending your nemesis?

Hardly.

I like the TH55. That has nothing to do with anyone or anything else.

RE: Sony to Palm and Microsoft: "We will kick your a$$es!"
;-) @ 2/13/2004 1:01:58 AM #
Whats the freaking big deal about these unit6? Why all of the clueless fanboys? I've got news for you: the new Dell Axim X3i is 400Mhz/64mb ram/full VG/ w/built in wifi - all for $300. Better stats than the Clie in every way (except actual screen resolution) for $100 less! No im not a PPC troll - i love Palm OS but wish Sony would actually produce an exciting unit at a good price - but apparently they dont have to to get un-discerning fanboys excited enough to buy their drek. Did i mention that this has the worst buttons/controls of any PDA every produced (even worse than any other Sony unit?).

Say you like it - fine. But acting like this overpriced but underpowered (123mhz) device is some sort of second-coming - its just embarassing to read.

It's not the fanboys that are in need of clues. Your post shows your ignorance of both PPC, PalmOS, Sony and the HHE.

Anyone that knows PDAs realizes it's poinless comparing CPU speeds and RAM amounts between PPC and PalmOS models. The HHE throws another wrinkle into the equation. And have you (a) actually USED the buttons on the TH-55? Or are you (b) just another hot air "expert" babbling based on screenshots they've seen on fanboy websites like this.

Answer: (b)

Overpriced?
- 320 x 480 screen
- 802.11b
- camera
- 32 MB RAM (equivalent to around 1 GB in a PPC handheld...)
- solid construction
- huge suite of bundled apps

All for less than $400. Overpriced? Only if you're a dullard.




It's just too big.

RE: Sony to Palm and Microsoft: "We will kick your a$$es!"
;-) @ 2/13/2004 1:19:06 AM #
Put the Pom-Poms away, there, Muffy.

Sony deserves credit for FINALLY developing a handheld in 240x320 with a standard tablet, but that's hardly innovative. There are a lot of things to like about this unit (no slider, clear flip-cover, battery life, etc.), but there are also plenty of things to dislike (stylus, Memory Stick format, no Bluetooth, no native Landscape, etc.).

Your cheerleading is reminiscent of a far-different time, when Palm would introduce a lame upgrade and Sony would follow-up with 3 units that were all much better. Let's wait until March and see what Palm releases. Or perhaps let's wait a little longer and see what PPC 2004 offers--that's why PPCs are "silent," for now, developing devices off the new OS.

And really, pom-poms just look goofy, anyway.


"Hardly innovative"?

Just for the sake of the exercise:

1) Its resolution is 320 x 480 (PPC is 240 x 320 - a little Freudian slip, PPC-boy?)


2) Memory Stick works about as good as any other memory format. (Better than some, worse than others.) Price is its only real downside.

3) Bluetooth is available in Euro TH-55. In North America, most people don't know or care about Bluetooth.

4) Landscape can be coded for individual apps. The main place where it would be useful is in the web browser and the new NetFront engine compensates for portrait mode.

5) "let's wait a little longer and see what PPC 2004 offers". What a sad refrain you PPC trolls keep singing. It's been heard every time a new piece of WinCE/PPC bloatware has been issued from Redmond over the past 5 years. Put up or shut up. What's that? I can't hear you.

6) Pom poms don't look as goofy as your OS crashing and burning 10 times a day like PPC seems to do.

7) We already know what Palm will be releasing this spring. Microwaved leftovers.


You just got B-slapped


It's just too big.

RE: Sony to Palm and Microsoft:
a3 @ 2/13/2004 9:43:50 AM #
Since the Dell Axim has been mentioned, let me bring an example from another environment that may be helpful in this discussion: Dell's iPod wannabe costs US$50 and US$100 less than apple's 15 and 20Gb models and includes some additional features that iPod's don't have. Based on the above comments cheaper and more features are better? hell no! why? because it's the only player that falls silent during fast forward or rewind, you can't make it play your entire music collection, and although it has a microphone there is no way to copy your recordings back to your PC. I am taking this information from an article by David Pogue at the New York Times technology section.
If the axim has similar hardware glitches to be added to PPC alarm random on/off feature (a cool way to say that your alarms will not sound most of the time) then I'll say that expensive and reliable is better!

__________________________________________________
Current fan of a 320x480 tablet shaped PDA with built in BT+Wifi for less than US$500

TH55 in Europe?

Analytical @ 2/11/2004 2:05:42 AM #
Damn I have been waiting so long for some one to release the WiFi SD card for my M505 that I think I am going to have to change my beloved 505 for something that works in conjunction with the rest of my network.

Does anyone have any ideas as to release dates for any of these within Europe? or even prices would be good.

TIA,

Mike

RE: TH55 in Europe?
mbee @ 2/11/2004 11:42:23 AM #
Hi, as a French, I know that the TH55 will be in Europe the 15 of March, with BT AND Wifi.
A french website has already done a complete review of the hardware, and will post the software review soon this week. So if you read French... It's on www.clieandco.com

RE: TH55 in Europe?
Analytical @ 2/11/2004 4:16:50 PM #
Excellent thanks.

C'est une cadeau pour moi :-)

Cheers,

Mike

RE: TH55 in Europe?
radleyp @ 2/12/2004 10:28:40 AM #
Whoops, there, Mike. "Cadeau" is masculine! Philippe Radley

French Bluetooth Utopia

bmari20007 @ 2/11/2004 6:45:11 PM #
http://makeashorterlink.com/?E61421167

Look at the picture!

This site details a distant, Utopian, future (bluetooth and Macs for everyone/thing) we poor, backward americans here in the US are unable to anticipate or comprehend.

Remote Desktop Reality

bmari20007 @ 2/11/2004 8:30:40 PM #
Finally I have a palm that can do remote desktop w/ my XP machine w/ a reasonable sized screen. I had orignally hoped the Tungsten T3 was the answer but w/ the SD Wi-Fi dead, finally my patience is rewarded

http://www.ddhsoftware.com/mobile_ts.html

RE: Remote Desktop Reality
tfftruoa @ 2/12/2004 1:31:53 AM #
I dont see how wifi is that important for remote desktop access. I use bluetooth to great effect in accessing files on my desktop, though it was incredibily difficult to set up and involves lots of streaming programs over my bluetooth network. I actually had to upgrade to Windows XP Pro to get things working decently with my TT3.

Out of curiousity, what remote desktop program are you trying to use? Most of the things I'm using were custom Ad-hoc jobs and not nearly as stable as I would like them to be.

A little off topic, but WOW. Those Clies are nice. In the span of three years, I've gone from a Sharp Wizard Organizer (The 1.5 Mem model!) to a Viso Pro, to a CLie SJ30, to a TT3. I have to say that the TH55 has everything I've ever wanted in a PDA. Wifi. Camera. HiRez+. Native File support. More importantly, something I was really impressed with on an earlier discription of the new Clies was that they included out of the box softwar to unzip files directly from an internet connection. All of this in one word. Sweet.

Btw, to those of you complaining about a lack of Bluetooth, I was under the impression that while the PalmOne SD Bluetooth card is not compatible with OS 5, the Sony Memory Stick bluetooth card would work with OS 5 CLies.


Bluetooth + the TH-55
;-) @ 2/12/2004 2:51:43 AM #
Btw, to those of you complaining about a lack of Bluetooth, I was under the impression that while the PalmOne SD Bluetooth card is not compatible with OS 5, the Sony Memory Stick bluetooth card would work with OS 5 CLies.

And with a single Memory Stick slot, where do you store the info/files you need when using the Bluetooth card - assuming it has the necessary drivers? Hmmmmmm....? There's NO excuse for a high end PDA to not have Bluetooth. None. Other than to purposely cripple a PDA + drive sales of a more expensive model.



It's just too big.

TH55 already $319 at Bestbuy

doctor__no @ 2/12/2004 10:12:11 AM #
It seems that you can already pre-order the TF55 for $80 below retail at Bestbuy.com for $319.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I5AC23267

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