PalmSource Stock Surges on Acquisition News
Shares of PalmSource today rose 78%, up $7.89 with very heavy volume, on news of the ACCESS acquisition. Also, some new details about the details of the acquisition have been released.
The merger agreement has been approved by the board of directors of each of ACCESS Co., Ltd. and PalmSource, Inc. The acquisition is expected to be completed by the end of 2005 calendar year, pending regulatory approval and the approval of PalmSource's shareholders.
PalmSource today filed a 8-K statement with the SEC that reveals some details concerning the execution of the merger.
Apollo?
The filing reveals that ACCESS just recently established a wholly owned subsidary in the US called Apollo Merger Sub, Inc on September 2nd. Apollo Merger Sub is also headed by ACCESS' CEO Toru Arakawa. Apollo Merger Sub is the parent company which is the official company PalmSource is entering into agreement with.
This is purely speculation, but it is possible that the name Apollo could have something to do with the name of the new company.
The document also shows that if the merger is terminated or not approved, PalmSource would be required to pay ACCESS a $9.7 million termination fee. ACCESS plans to complete the merger in December 2005.
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RE: first post?
This is some kind of scam. I hope the FCC investigates and bust them.
Why did Access do this? Here's 4 possible reasons:
This is some kind of scam. I hope the FCC investigates and bust them.
The price seems ridiculous, but perhaps not in a few possible scenarios:
1) Access-as-the-New-Palm theory: Access becomes a more intelligent Palm: contracts with HTC, etc and becomes a one-stop supplier of phones to carriers. Nice way to segue out of the browser business now that the power of future hardware will soon allow open source browsers to run acceptably, "Netscaping" Access' NetFront browser.
Fly in the ointment: Palm's renegotiated contract with PalmSource allows them to keep their clutches on PalmOS for 5 more years. For the "one-stop supplier" idea to be effective a company needs (Apple-style) COMPLETE control over both OS and hardware.
2) Access-as-puppet theory: Access acquires PalmSource + runs it into the ground for the benefit of a shadowy Redmond-colored figure lurking in the background.
3) Access-as-a-better-Symbian theory: Great OS + huge app library + good developer community + fair developer tools; without overbearing spectre of Nokia trying to run the show = instant mobile platform IF packaged with ALL the ingredients (as I've previously suggested that PalmSource have rolled into PalmOS). It wouldn't take a lot of effort to make PalmOS into a killer mobile platform. PalmSource was too clueless to see this. A better-run company might have better luck.
4) Access-as-hostagetaker: I wonder if Palm would be willing to reconsider how badly it needs PalmOS and pay Access an extra premium to regain control of PalmOS now that Access has abducted it while Palm was sleeping?
TVoR
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RE: first post?
(2) Nah - Redmond was/is ALREADY running PalmOS into the ground as the change-in-marketshare statistics more than adequately show - no need to do anything further.
(3) Though this MAY be true we keep on getting back to that acquisition PRICE that makes no sense.
(4) Ain't gonna happen - ALL evidence both obscure (the uSoft mobile web pages containing numerous apparently-PALM devices running uSoft OSes) and blatant (PALM CEO almost saying "Sure, we like other OSes!! and PALM overtly hiring Linux Droids) and contractual items that say "PALM gets as much PalmOS as they want under any condition) says PALM wouldn't give up a nickle.
RE: first post?
RE: first post?
What, did we have a "wardrobe malfunction"...?
Love,
Lefty
Minister of Fun (or Else!), PalmSource Core Technologies
Access' strategy - W T F is going on???
Yes, the price was INSANE, but the potential returns could be massive. Imagine a company like Nokia or Sony Ericsson putting out a better quality Treo 650. If it became popular and the ONLY way to get the hardware was through them, carriers would be helpless.
(2) Nah - Redmond was/is ALREADY running PalmOS into the ground as the change-in-marketshare statistics more than adequately show - no need to do anything further.
You're probably right, but I wouldn't put it past Microsoft. They've done that kind of thing before.
(3) Though this MAY be true we keep on getting back to that acquisition PRICE that makes no sense.
Again, if executed by a COMPETENT organization, this could be a successful business plan.
(4) Ain't gonna happen - ALL evidence both obscure (the uSoft mobile web pages containing numerous apparently-PALM devices running uSoft OSes) and blatant (PALM CEO almost saying "Sure, we like other OSes!! and PALM overtly hiring Linux Droids) and contractual items that say "PALM gets as much PalmOS as they want under any condition) says PALM wouldn't give up a nickle.
You may be right. As I posted before, Palm certainly covered their a$$ when they recently renegotiated their contract for the PalmOS license. They now have PalmOS locked up until 2011! By that time, we'll probably be running scalable real desktop OSes on mobile hardware, so PalmOS will be obsolete. And at that point, Palm will stop leeching from PalmSource and can detach itself from the corpse + start looking for a new host. ;-O
TVoR
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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.
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The Palm eCONomy = Communism™
The Great Palm Swindle: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=7864#108038
How PalmSource is REALLY doing: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=8026#110958
Is it too late for Palm to get PalmSource back? Stay tuned..
If Palm fails to buy back PalmSource, they have officially surrendered. Yes, when the Windows Mobile Treos come out in a few months Palm will enjoy a temporary boost in sales. But PalmOS Treo sales will nosedive. Then the PalmOS developer community will panic and jump ship to WinMob.
When other Windows Mobile devices copying the Treo design start appearing next year and undercutting Palm on price, it will be time to finally pull the plug on the platform.
It should never have ended this way. What a waste of a great platform. Now I understand how Newton and Amiga owners feel.
TVoR
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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.
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The Palm eCONomy = Communism™
The Great Palm Swindle: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=7864#108038
How PalmSource is REALLY doing: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=8026#110958
RE: Is it too late for Palm to get PalmSource back? Stay tuned..
Marty Fouts
Lead Linux Lizard
PalmSource Core Technology Department
RE: Is it too late for Palm to get PalmSource back? Stay tuned..
"It's not over 'til the fat lady sings." Does this mean it's over? Of course Access, PalmSource and even Palm want us to believe this doesn't signal the end, only a brighter future. We'll have to see about that. But I will agree that IF it does end, it was a waste of a great platform.
I'm still waiting for the mythical "color HandEra."
RE: Is it too late for Palm to get PalmSource back? Stay tun
Why would we want to? It's sounding tolerably good to me, certainly as a stockholder.
I've noted with some small amusement the message from this contributor on the Yahoo Finance boards, under the name "jihadevil". Just out of curiosity, how many shares of PalmSource did you get caught short on...?
Taking a soaking is painful, huh? I'll think of you when I'm indulging myself with what used to be your money, thanks!
Love,
Lefty
Minister of Fun (or Else!), PalmSource Core Texchnologies
RE: Is it too late for Palm to get PalmSource back? Stay tuned..
Why would we want to? It's sounding tolerably good to me, certainly as a stockholder.
I've noted with some small amusement the message from this contributor on the Yahoo Finance boards, under the name "jihadevil". Just out of curiosity, how many shares of PalmSource did you get caught short on...?
Taking a soaking is painful, huh? I'll think of you when I'm indulging myself with what used to be your money, thanks!
Love,
Lefty
Minister of Fun (or Else!), PalmSource Core Texchnologies
Guess again, David. Do you REALLY think I would ever lose money on a deal for sales of PalmSource stocks? (If I was an investor, which of course I'm not.) Did you see the option activity prior to the announcement? Get a clue, Bubba.
The Walrus was Paul.
TVoR
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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.
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The Palm eCONomy = Communism™
The Great Palm Swindle: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=7864#108038
How PalmSource is REALLY doing: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=8026#110958
RE: Is it too late for Palm to get PalmSource back? Stay tun
Um, sure. A pile, in fact.
What's he to Hecubah, or Hecubah to him, that he should weep thus for her?—William Shakespeare, Hamlet
Just seems odd that you'd be pitching the same strident Doomsday scenarios on the Yahoo stock boards, advertising your position as "Strong Sell". Like we used to say at Apple, "If you think you're too cynical, you're not cynical enough."
Love,
Lefty (the Great and Terrible)
Minister of Fun (or Else!), PalmSource Core Technologies
RE: Is it too late for Palm to get PalmSource back? Stay tun
And vice-versa if I intended to short the stock.
So maybe TVoR is interested in buying?
Giggle.
[note - I do an amazing amount of posting about PSRC here and elsewhere but, as far as my synapses can recall without checking tax records, I've never had any stock position of any type in PSRC (movement too scary under too low a volume fer me!). Were I to post a "Sentiment" at THIS moment it would probably be "Strong Buy" as a feeble attempt to pump up the price to make it even a better short]
RE: Is it too late for Palm to get PalmSource back? Stay tuned..
What's he to Hecubah, or Hecubah to him, that he should weep thus for her?
—William Shakespeare, Hamlet
Just seems odd that you'd be pitching the same strident Doomsday scenarios on the Yahoo stock boards, advertising your position as "Strong Sell". Like we used to say at Apple, "If you think you're too cynical, you're not cynical enough."
Guess again, David - I have never bought or sold any PalmSource stocks. Or any other stocks for that matter. I COULD have done so and made a killing this week, but... after what happened to Martha? Life is too short. You are getting cold...
jihadevil? Yikes! I have a stalker? How sweet.
TVoR
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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.
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The Palm eCONomy = Communism™
The Great Palm Swindle: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=7864#108038
NetFrontLinux - the next major cellphone OS?: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=8060#111823
RE: Is it too late for Palm to get PalmSource back? Stay tun
I prefer to call them "Obsessed Fans".
RE: Is it too late for Palm to get PalmSource back? Stay tuned..
And vice-versa if I intended to short the stock.
So maybe TVoR is interested in buying?
Giggle.
[note - I do an amazing amount of posting about PSRC here and elsewhere but, as far as my synapses can recall without checking tax records, I've never had any stock position of any type in PSRC (movement too scary under too low a volume fer me!). Were I to post a "Sentiment" at THIS moment it would probably be "Strong Buy" as a feeble attempt to pump up the price to make it even a better short]
hengeem, do people posting on Yahoo's board actually manage to affect stock prices? Seriously.
Giggle. Snort. Heh heh heh.
David, I think Mr. Crowley's sex magick has rotted your brain. One word: penicillin. Giggle. Who knew?
P.S. Can you PalmSource people please keep your personsal... proclivities... out of a family website? Between Ms. Hackborn, Ben Combee, David F. and David S. we could start a ****ing bordello!
PPS Look into the glass onion
PPPS "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."
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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.
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The Palm eCONomy = Communism™
The Great Palm Swindle: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=7864#108038
NetFrontLinux - the next major cellphone OS?: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=8060#111823
More consipracy theories by PSRC Senior Manager
Just seems odd that you'd be pitching the same strident Doomsday scenarios on the Yahoo stock boards, advertising your position as "Strong Sell". Like we used to say at Apple, "If you think you're too cynical, you're not cynical enough."Love,
Lefty (the Great and Terrible)
Minister of Fun (or Else!), PalmSource Core Technologies
ConspiraciesThere is a subtext in here, however. Everything is a conspiracy, but the ultimate conspiracy is the one wherein you conspire against yourself. We wander around imagining, in a thoughtless sort of way, that there's some concrete, ongoing and adamantine entity that I (in my particular case) call "me".
Written by David N. Schlesinger
PalmSource Senior Manager
Are all people this strange at PSRC? Or just the managers?
Surur
Yes, it IS too late for Palm to get PalmSource back
Love,
Lefty (the Great and Terrible)
Minister of Fun (or Else!), PalmSource Core Technologies
Conspiracies
There is a subtext in here, however. Everything is a conspiracy, but the ultimate conspiracy is the one wherein you conspire against yourself. We wander around imagining, in a thoughtless sort of way, that there's some concrete, ongoing and adamantine entity that I (in my particular case) call "me".
Written by David N. Schlesinger
PalmSource Senior Manager
Are all people this strange at PSRC? Or just the managers?
Surur
Surur, David is the chosen one who will deliver PalmLinux unto the unwashed masses. He's the ONE!
"What are you waiting for? You're faster than this. Don't think you are, know you are. Come on. Stop trying to hit me and hit me."
"Welcome to the real world."
TVoR
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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.
------------------------
The Palm eCONomy = Communism™
The Great Palm Swindle: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=7864#108038
NetFrontLinux - the next major cellphone OS?: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=8060#111823
RE: Is it too late for Palm to get PalmSource back? Stay tuned..
I prefer to call them "Obsessed Fans".
Wow. I appear to be amassing quite a collection of them:
David Beers
just little me
Marty Fouts
Dianne Hackborn
svrontis
jihadevil
RhinoSteve (What was his real name again, Surur?)
Mike Cane
David Schlesinger
To all my fans:
"I haven't had an orthodox career, and I've wanted more than anything to have your respect. The first time I didn't feel it, but this time I feel it, and I can't deny the fact that you like me, right now, you like me!"
TVoR
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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.
------------------------
The Palm eCONomy = Communism™
The Great Palm Swindle: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=7864#108038
NetFrontLinux - the next major cellphone OS?: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=8060#111823
RE: Is it too late for Palm to get PalmSource back? Stay tun
> manage to affect stock prices? Seriously...
Well...actually...yes.
It has been shown more than a couple times that concerted effort by message board posters CAN influence the movement of a stock price, especially if the stock is fairly thinly-traded (as PSRC was). There was a 13-year-old (or some other such youngish age) who made a fortune by going online using a stock account set up by his parents and pumping penny stocks using numerous IDs - some outrageous amount of money. The SEC said "No no no!" and threatened him with some sort of action but finally caved in and said "Okay, just don't do it again!" and maybe got him to agree to some sort of fine-like payment. But my memory of the incident is that he actually retained some massive amount of profits and giggled all the way to the bank (since he actually apparently violated no laws!).
So, yes, one CAN influence stock prices with message board posts.
But, again, I've never had a PSRC position nor intend to have one so ==I== do it for entertainment!
Giggle.
RE: Is it too late for Palm to get PalmSource back? Stay tuned..
Marty Fouts
Lead Linux Lizard
PalmSource Core Technology Department
RE: Is it too late for Palm to get PalmSource back? Stay tun
Pretty much, in one way or another, but—of course–so's everybody.
Take you, for instance: do you display these sort of obsessive, stalker-like propensities toward everyone you encounter on a message board...?
Love,
Lefty (the Great and Terrible)
Minister of Fun (or Else!), PalmSource Core Technologies
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first post?