Rumor: Palm i705 in Staples' System
A Staples employee who asked to remain anonymous has found Palm's upcoming wireless model, the i705, already listed in his company's inventory system. It's priced at $450 with SKU# 479208, which is the first indication available of what this model will cost. There is also a keyboard in the system for it, too. The i705 Mini Keyboard (SKU# 479209) is listed for $60.
The release date for the i705 is still not known. Palm originally intended to release the i705 before the end of this year but announced in September that it wouldn't make this deadline. At the time, a source at Palm said the device would only be delayed a few weeks, which seems to place it coming out sometime in January.
The entry in the Staples' system is a fairly typical occurrence as a product gets close to its release date. Retailers need to get their systems ready before the actual release.
The Palm i705 has "always on" wireless access, which means it has the ability to check for e-mail even when the handheld itself is off. However, it lacks any voice capabilities. It has a monochrome screen and uses Palm's Universal Connector, which means it can use most peripherals designed for the m500 series and the m125.
According to rumor, Palm is working on the i725, a handheld that can do double duty as a mobile phone but that isn't expected until later next year.
Handspring is developing wireless phones of its own that run the Palm OS. The Treo series has both wireless data and voice capabilities and will defintely be available in January.
The market is getting increasingly crowded. Kyocera has had a monochrome PalmOS smartphone on the market for months and Samsung recently released one.
All of these have monochrome screens except the Samsung SPH-I300, which has an 8-bit color screen.
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RE: no color, bleah...
RE: no color, bleah...
Do you realize they were designing this thing to rival the V/m500 series in terms of form factor? Do you really make that kind of snap judgement from a small picture, with no size reference whatsoever?
Let me guess...you're one of those people who labelled the Visor Edge and Clie 710 "bricks" based on posted pictures. Sheesh! Some people's parents shouldn't have had children...
I want a Palm mi725!!!
But unfortunately, "mi" stands for "Mission Impossible" at Palm, Inc.
Hey Palm - CAN YOU ASTONISH ME FOR ONCE??!!! You are always a Day late and a dollar short.
Microsoft Spys?
The 705i looks like a very nice replacement for the VII. I would assume that the "Always On" feature is a constant battery draw, and implementing a color screen would probably butcher the battery life. I am sure that Palm does not want a recurrence of the "M505" screen disaster.
It is a common misconception that "everyone" wants color. I have a Prism and would not trade it for a Mono device, but many of my corporate clients need their Palm OS device strictly for business, and most business apps don't really need color. It may come as a shock, but palm does not just market to the gadget-freaks and tech-heads that visit this site (like myself) - They market to the real world.
Doug
RE: no color, bleah...
I love Palms, but I am tired of watching everyone but them improve their device. Sony has taken the Palm platform the the next level while Palm has been shooting in the dark with the waste of time m505 and know this. In the next 2 quarters we will know the future of Palm all to clearly.
eha1990
eadeleye@hotmail.com
RE: no color, bleah...
i70(5)
RE: i70(5)
Sony:
PEG-N760C/PEG-N710C/PEG-N610C/PEG-S320
PEG-S300/PEG-T415
Palm:
m505/m505/m125/m105/m100
Even the Treo Handhelds are confusing for most people. Treo 180 G/K Treo 270k
What is up with this? How did Handera go from TRGPRO to a 330 model. Is it me or is this just a bit insane? Is it so hard to name a product by something eays to understand. IMHO, the visor line is best for this, visor solo, visor deluxe, visor plat, visor neo, visor pro. Easily remembered names. If you are gonna stick with numbers why not something like this; Name of Handheld, i.e. palm visor clie whatever. Then the model so lets say 1, then noteable features. Palm 1CM translates to Palm model 1 with Color and a mp3 player. Or is that still too confusing?
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When you have a Clie shoved up your mouth, you can only talk in vowels.
RE: i70(5)
Personally I like how Apple does it now (as opposed to the old number system that they used to do). It is always the iMac or iBook, they don't change the name when they add more memory or make it look different. An added bonus is that it forces them to get the old devices out of the channel before shipping a new device, which is very smart.
RE: i70(5)
This is definitely in contrast to the numbering scheme of the Palm/SONY/HandEra handhelds which tell you very little about the handheld's features. Visor has licked this altogether by assigning names that tell you ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the handheld... unless you've read up on them like us goof balls that read PIC all the time ;-)
Of course, one could simply argue that the naming scheme isn't supposed to provide details about a handheld's features... but Palm in particular (and SONY to some degree) have already started a trend to the contrary. You can't really bash HandEra because they changed their companies name... and only had one previous handheld. So, the new naming scheme wasn't much of a trend-breaker!
RE: i70(5)
Why worry?
I think we ought to go back to giving these things proper names, but not misspelled names like Jornada...
mrscarey
palmist and visionary
RE: i70(5)
I'm not sure what Sony was smoking when they came up with "Clie" (pronounced klee-ay). I know it is an acronym but it isn't even as good as some of their other names, like "Vaio".
I also wish Palm would follow their own naming scheme. Your right, the b&w wireless PDA should be the i700, the color one the i705.
If they actually have this device,
By doing this, more users are subscribed and hopefully it will counteract the lower price. Also, there is another positive is that you sell more this high-margin handhelds at $449.
The price plan should be:
$28.99 Unlimited
$19.99 150 kB
Are you listening to me, one of your customers, Palm?
RE: If they actually have this device,
It's only a SUGGESTION, Mr./Mrs./Ms. I.M. Anonymous.
RE: If they actually have this device,
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When you have a Clie shoved up your mouth, you can only talk in vowels.
RE: If they actually have this device,
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When you have a Clie shoved up your mouth, you can only talk in vowels.
RE: If they actually have this device,
In addition to what I say, I think the Treo cost a lot even with service contract. And I bet the monthly fee will be a whopping $50+ per month if you want GPRS also.
There is no free lunch in the world.
P.S. And by the way, that is always-on email that I always talk about. E-mail finds you.
RE: If they actually have this device,
> why the i705 won't sell well?
It was from some guy who has posted the same comment about 10 times now under various articles. I've deleted all but the first. You can see the original under the article on the price drop for the m125. He originally posted it about five times under that article and I deleted all the repeats. He's really close to being permanently banned. I don't like to do it but sometimes its necessary. I keep hoping he'll get the hint.
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News Editor
RE: If they actually have this device,
It should be bet instead of be.
You could do a copy and paste with your mouse and you will understand.
Is that something about the font my browser is using? Or is everyone not okay?
RE: If they actually have this device,
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RE: If they actually have this device,
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When you have a Clie shoved up your mouth, you can only talk in vowels.
RE: If they actually have this device,
With RIM Wireless Handhelds you don't need to retrieve your email. *Your email finds you.* No dialing-in. No initiating connections. No antennas to raise. No effort required. The handhelds are designed to remain on and continuously connected to the wireless network, allowing you to be discreetly notified as new email arrives. Now you can easily stay in touch with your colleagues and clients while you're on the go.
That is quoted from RIM website.
RE: If they actually have this device,
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When you have a Clie shoved up your mouth, you can only talk in vowels.
RE: If they actually have this device,
The key is to have the phone companies be the ISP for this type of service, then the price can come down and the networks can get faster.
Whiners
The My Palm Portal-Badly in Need of an Update
If Palm wants to make the i705 at least mildly competitive with the competition, they need to allow some semblance of a web experience. Come on Palm, this is a no-brainer.
RE: The My Palm Portal-Badly in Need of an Update
RE: The My Palm Portal-Badly in Need of an Update
Doug
RE: The My Palm Portal-Badly in Need of an Update
RE: The My Palm Portal-Badly in Need of an Update
1. Palm bought Anyday.com and Wesync.com
2. Palm licensed USA.net's defunct email program
3. Palm found out that Palm VII users were complaining about paying for name@palm.net when someone can sing-up for name@palm.com for free through the Mypalm portal. See the confusion? The technology from Anyday.com only allowed for one way wireless datebook syncing with the Palm VII's, whereas Wesync.com offers two way wireless syncing from the Palm VII's.
4. To this day the Anyday staff still could NOT work out the bugs in the portal. Hence, layoffs...
5. Palm found that Palm VII users could not effectively manage their email from the Palm VII devices alone. The Mypalm pqa did not allow access to manage the deletion of emails once they were deleted from Imessenger. So all those emails just sat on the Mypalm portal until the user logged on form a PC and managed the same emails for a second time. Very tedious and redundant.
6. $50 for unlimited service from Palm.net was not bad. Companies were coming out with PQA's, daily. We were able to surf the web with DPweb, look-up stocks with Bloomberg,read the news with Headhound and even get all kinds of detailed flight info form United. Not most of those PQA's are gone or not being updated regularly. So, my question is: Why would I want to pay $50 for an sms service using Imessenger on a Palm VIIx?
Finally,
Palm now understands that if they give a service away for free, why would anyone want to pay a premium for it?
DPWeb-Is it Dead
RE: The My Palm Portal-Badly in Need of an Update
Let's not assume the anyday.com staff could not do it...let's assume that palm corp could not decide what the wanted to do with the MyPalm portal (PIM, etc)...so they just let it die.
It's True
According to what I hear from my Palm/Sales reps that do the training, a "new" palm, the i705, is coming 1st quarter of 2002...which means March 31 at the very latest and January 2 at the very earliest...
The entry has actually been in our systems for about a week and a half, I just never noticed it till now...
RE: It's True
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