Sony Taking Preorders for T615C In Hong Kong & Singapore
Confirming yesterday's rumor, Sony is taking preorders for the PEG-T615C/G in Hong Kong and Singapore. The T615C has essentially the same specs as T600C, except T615C has 4 MB of Flash ROM instead of 8 MB. The delivery date isn't until after January 21. They will not ship outside of their own territory.
The T615C runs Palm OS 4.1 and has 16 MB of RAM. It has a 320 by 320 pixel 16-bit color screen. The casing is 4.6 by 2.8 by .49 inches and the handheld weighs 4.9 ounces, including the stylus.
While Sony is offering a 32 MB Memory Stick to those willing to preorder, the T615C does not regularly come with one.
The T615C has the same enhanced infrared port and software from the T415, allowing it to be used as a universal remote control.
It costs approximately what the T615C is expected to cost in the U.S., about $415.
What Sony's plans are for announcing the T615C in North America or Europe are still not known.
Thanks to Eugene for the tip. -Ed
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Less than continuous 6 hours of usage with back lights
RE: Less than continuous 6 hours of usage with back lights
RE: Less than continuous 6 hours of usage with back lights
RE: Less than continuous 6 hours of usage with back lights
There are a lot of folks out that that use it intermittently during the day and put it in the cradle when they get home. For them it wouldn't matter and this might make a great handheld.
Color?
So, is this thing coming in green or gray since it ends with a /G?
RE: Color?
Since "Blue T600C" is a "special edition" in Japan.
Therefore there may not have a "Blue T615C".
C/G maybe stand for HKG/Singapore.
RE: Color?
I guess it should be color model !
Please join me if you want color
Palm has Grey, Blue & Red (patriotic edition), black (jordan and IBM) for m505. Gold, Pastel Blue (Claudia) and Purple (japanese special edition). Now why didn't they deliver blue in Hong Kong Singapore?
If you want color you should act now before they announce it in the U.S. Most likely the color one wouldn't be available if it becomes their policy.
RE: Color?
4 megs ROM?
RE: 4 megs ROM?
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RE: 4 megs ROM?
RE: 4 megs ROM?
...because Flash ROM is more expansive than RAM...
...because Sony wants to maximize the profit margin for each device they make...
...because they want you to buy additional Flash ROM in the form of Memory Sticks, so they can make more money...
Duh!
RE: 4 megs ROM?
Nice... 5.5MB free Flash, 16MB Ram -> 21.5 MB of fast access memory.
Small Typo
T416 -> T415
RE: Small Typo
Universal?
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RE: Small Typo
I really shouldn't correct anyone, my english is worse than many of the other viewers.
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When you have a Clie shoved up your mouth, you can only talk in vowels.
T615C/G Review
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/print.hwz?aid=366
Thanks Mike!
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RE: T615C/G Review
That's a pitty, I really liked the color display in the current Clie. Wonder what the screen will look like in bright sun light...
****** Pilot 5000 => Palm Pilot III => Palm Vx => M505 - I´ve had them all and loved each one of them.
RE: T615C/G Review
RE: T615C/G Review
"the CLIÉ Remote Commander is only unique to Sony AV products and does not allow
users to train it with any other remote controls."
Does that mean that you cannot have it control any
non Sony TV/VCRs? I thought that the 415 had ROM
codes for other makes of electronics. Am I wrong?
This kind of makes it useless.
I understand you cannot train it like OmniRemote,
but rather you enter a model, and it has the codes
in rom. Is this how it works?
RE: T615C/G Review
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RE: T615C/G Review
Screen: Even though the m505 has been much maligned, I find the very thin fonts used on the N series Sony 320 X 320 screen to be difficult to read - the larger lower res screen m505 actually looks better to me, (as long you don't see the brightness and grid pattern side-by-side to the Sony, at which point it becomes more objectional).
Cases and periferals: I really like the new hard case available from Palm - sleek, compact design and I like the fold all the way around back design. That leather "flap" that comes with the T615C may look pretty good brand new but I'm willing to bet it will be quite wobbly and worn after a few months and just doesn't offer the same level of protection. It would have made more sense to me if they'd done a nice thin metal flip screen like on the Visor Edge. Also, Sony has changed the hotsync connector yet again for the third time in a year. I bought the Stowaway KB with my m505 and it might be quite some time before we see one for the T615C as well as any other third-paty periferals...
Buttons: Didn't like the T415/T615C buttons at all, I guess the jog dial overcomes this to some degree but they're still bad, bad, bad.
Questionable battery life: No Palm device is worth having if you can't be away from a charger for several days/a week. That's the whole point of having one...
Cost: During Dell's holiday promotion, I was able to get the m505 at 10% off plus using a $25 coupon - that net it down to $335. Considering the Palm free SD card, I guess you could even say that I got it for under $300. At that price the m505 is great deal, but $399 is a bit too high... If I were Palm I'd re-price the m500 at $249 and the m505 at $329...
RE: T615C/G Review
A "transflective" display is both reflective, and semi-transparent. It can be backlit, and look like the Prism and IIIc, but also be reflective and look as good outside as an m505. At least in theory. I've heard the colors look more washed-out and pale in a any lighting, compared to those on the N610/N710/N760. Particularly in the reds, which look either brown. Also, the bold blue on the menu bars, etc, looks more like teal. But it isn't dim, like the m505. In fact the backlight is reported to be brighter than the the sidelight in the N series.
RE: Internet
RE: T615C/G Review
> I find the very thin fonts used on the N series
> Sony 320 X 320 screen to be difficult to read
> - the larger lower res screen m505 actually
> looks better to me.
FYI, there is a freeware program called Thinfont that increases font thickness on the 320x320 Clie's.
> Cases and periferals: I really like the new
> hard case available from Palm - sleek, compact
> design and I like the fold all the way around
> back design. That leather "flap" that comes
> with the T615C may look pretty good brand new
> but I'm willing to bet it will be quite wobbly
> and worn after a few months and just doesn't
> offer the same level of protection.
My friend's Visor Edge's flip cover is a pain in the ass. The Sony Clie N610C/N7X0C's cover is better than my old Visor Platinum, PalmV, and PalmIII's. Protection is fine after 6 months of use (not wobbly at all... dunno how the T615C's will hold up). IMHO, the N610C/N7X0C's is the most functional PalmOS device cover to date except for the M1xx's.
> Buttons: Didn't like the T415/T615C buttons at
> all, I guess the jog dial overcomes this to
> some degree but they're still bad, bad, bad.
Yeah, I played with one at CompUSA. The buttons suck (and the N610C/N7X0C buttons aren't so great either).
> Questionable battery life: No Palm device is
> worth having if you can't be away from a charger
> for several days/a week. That's the whole point
> of having one...
I read it's pretty bad, but the M505 also has really a poor battery life (especially compared to the N610C/N7X0C).
> Cost: During Dell's holiday promotion, I was
> able to get the m505 at 10% off plus using a
> $25 coupon - that net it down to $335.
> Considering the Palm free SD card, I guess you
> could even say that I got it for under $300.
That price is not bad, though I saw N610C's for under $300.
RE: T615C/G Review
The s300/s320/n610/n710/n760 are all the same.
The t415/t615 is the different one.
the s300/s320 the sides of the case is more horizontal than the 610/710/760 which is a bit more curved, HOWEVER, the connector is the same.
Heck you can even put the 610 and 710/760 onto the s300 cradle. (i don't know about the s320, i've never seen the s320 cradle, don't know if it's the same as the s300) (i owned an s300 when i bought my 710 and tried it and worked)
All the usb hotsync/charger cable works for the S and N series. the travel charger also works for the s and n series.
S/N= Same connector.
T= Different.
ED.. I'M GETTING ERRORS TRYING TO POST WITH MY username/password.. the error i get is "PAGE NOT FOUND"
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Internet
RE: Internet
So, it looks good in sunlight just like the m505/610/760, except that in indoors it looks better than the m505 :)
RE: Internet? Fool, first they need to get the basics right.
the clie n610 had 3 times the battery life of the Compaq 3800, but it had one half of the battery mAH rating, go figure, maybe high res, more memory, and smaller case actually does effect your up time.
Here's to technology innovation, may we have our cake and eat it too, no more tradeoffs. Just face it people, the perfect pda is just inenvitable, it's coming, and it's going to be inexpensive.
RE: Internet
PalmPilot Upgrade, a group that boost numerous PalmOS PDAs from 8 to 16 meg (including the Clie N series), says this in their FAQ:
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Will your upgrade alter the battery performance of my PalmPilot?
No, it will not. In theory the new 8 Mb memory chip and/or faster processor is draining slightly more energy from the battery while in standby. If you HotSync® your unit on regular basis, you will never notice the difference.
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http://www.palmpilotupgrade.com/faq.html#24
I've heard that the poor battery life is a factor of both a back/side lit color display and a very small battery (because of the slim form-factor). This makes sense.
Look on the bright side though, Lithium-Ion batteries charge quite fast: Handera's charges in 90 minutes, and I've heard of rapid recharge rages for other Li-ion PDAs.
Take Care All,
-Brette
RE: Internet
The memory is insignificant. The Li batter in the T600 would be sufficient to power the 16MB RAM for many many months without a charge.
They closest way to measure the RAM drain would be to leave the unit turned "off" until it ran down, and measure how long that took. That isn't accurate, as it also measures the drain of the CPU (which still cycles several times a second to handle interrupts, timers, clock, IR monitoring, button checking, etc., even with the unit off.) There is also power to other circuits when the unit is "off".
When a Palm device is "on" the only difference is slightly higher CPU draw, and the power for the display, backlight, touch screen, and their associated circuitry. On a color device the screen driver chips and the screen itself are the highest drain, other than the backlight. When it is on, the backlight is the highest drain of all on the unit.
T615 with 8MB MStick?!
But what would be even better is if Sony announced another price drop on the Stick! $35 for a 16MB Stick is outrageous. At most, it should be $20. And I'd leap at 32MB for $30-$35. (Yeah, yeah, I know you can find deelz on the Net -- but I'd rather not risk the anthrax, thank you!)
RE: T615 with 8MB MStick?!
As always, Sony treats different areas as different markets. Just because they do one thing in Asia doesn't mean that's what they'll do in the U.S. or Europe.
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