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Rumor: Handspring to Release Prism II

A source has sent in details and some images for what might be a new color Visor, to be called the Prism II. According to the source, its 16-bit screen will have a 240 by 320 resolution with a virtual Graffiti area.

It will have a 33 MHz processor with 16 MB RAM. It will be the first Visor ever to have flash ROM, meaning the OS is upgradeable. It will come with OS 4.01H.

No price for the Prism II was given and the source only said it would be announced "soon".

It measures 4.8 by 3.3 by 0.52 inches and weighs 5.3 ounces. The housing is made of magnesium with rubber around the buttons.

While it is the thinnest color Visor ever made, it doesn't have room for a internal Springboard slot so the Prism II is supposed to have an external, clip-on one like the Edge's.

For some reason, the stylus has been moved to the left side. The source said that was possibly due to the light tube that's on the right.

Authenticity
The details on this device seem reasonable and this might fit the rumors that Handspring is going to release a new model to replace the Platinum. The Palm m500 and Handspring's own Edge have shown that most purchasers are no longer interested in high-end monochrome devices.

On the other hand, the image looks like it might have been created with PhotoShop or a 3D CAD program.

Frankly, I'd say the odds of this rumor being real are low, just based on what the images look like. -Ed

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Smells like a fake to me...

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 12:23:12 PM #
Since the image is obviously phoney (I mean, really...it's the top 2/3 of a Prism and the bottom 1/3 of a graphite Deluxe or Platinum, with the power switch and stylus reversed!), the entire "news" item is in question. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for this one.

RE: Smells like a fake to me...
Ed @ 8/26/2001 12:37:11 PM #
Please notice that is is clearly labeled "Rumor", not "News".

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News Editor
I hope Handspring sues you for posting this nonsense.
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 1:58:35 PM #
After all the problems Palm went through with their sales being killed off by m505 rumors, the last thing a PDA maker needs is more unsubstantiated rumors about upcoming models to create market uncertainty and have potential customers delay their purchases.

Your actions are incredibly irresponsible and I would suggest you pull this story before more gullible individuals pick up on the story and start posting it to other Palm sites. As you know all too well, within a few hours, your little joke will start being discussed as fact by hundreds of gullible Palm enthusiasts around the globe.

RE: Smells like a fake to me...
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 2:32:21 PM #
Or you are working for handspring, palm or any of the others, or your position is absolutely stupid: creating rumors in web sites that affect pda sales should not affect you in negatively: if they do not sell because people is waiting for newer and more powerful models to ship, either they will put all efforts in creating these new models or they will drop prices. Believe me, THEY DO READ THIS SITES.

but maybe you prefer paying high prices for low-end models, well, i shall respect that...

RE: Smells like a fake to me...
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 7:21:49 PM #
Hey, the Palm m505's screen is duller then dishwater. Palm advertises it as "brilliant 65,000 colors". Even m505 fans wouldn't refer to the screen colors and contrast as "brilliant". I don't think rumors hurt sales...

RE: Smells like a fake to me...
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/27/2001 9:14:38 AM #
So... explain to me the basis for a lawsuit? Free speech is protected, at least in the USA, except in some VERY RARE cases:

Libel
Purient Interest (true pornography, if anyone could define what that is)
Intent to cause a riot/violent reaction.

The story is clearly posted as a rumor; it doesn't look at all like porn to me (maybe your tastes run in a different vein...), and I don't think anyone can reasonably expected to take up arms over it....

Now, one could instead question how posting rumors hurts the integrity of a news source. I'm not interested in hearing rumors myself, and it makes me take all "news" stories from that source with a big grain of salt. I understand the rush to get the scoop, but it's not worth it in the long run.

RE: Smells like a fake to me...
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/27/2001 9:30:05 AM #
It's a blatant fake.

Unfortunately, it's pretty much what I'm looking for if I'm going to buy another PDA at this point. Nothing on the market at the moment gets me excited.

Libel
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/27/2001 10:19:17 PM #
This story was an error in judgement.

RE: Smells like a fake to me...
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/3/2001 10:01:35 AM #
Hey guys, guess what? Handspring just lowered the price of the Prism by $100. Sounds like a new product is indeed coming down. I just hope it's better than the Palm m505.

The concept is intresting, though, let's see if they deliver

Davy @ 8/26/2001 12:27:52 PM #
nt

Stylus outside case

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 12:24:29 PM #
If you look closely, the tip of the stylus isn't in the silo. If this is real, i expect that the tip could either poke people or easily get caught on stuff. Also, does the stylus have a metal tip? that can't be good for the screen! I also find it hard to beleive that HS would go for a 240x320 screen, it seems like 160x215 or 320x430 would be more likely. I also have a hard time beleiving that HS would include flash ROM.

RE: Stylus outside case
Cheetah @ 8/26/2001 1:05:36 PM #
The sylyus is on the outside of the case in the Edge also.

To compete favorably against the 505 and the Sony 710/610, Handspring would have to have a device such as this, however, this looks like a fake to me.



RE: Stylus outside case
Ia3n @ 8/26/2001 1:44:51 PM #
160x215 or 320x430? Those are much less likely. I would say that 320x320 is the most likely followed by 320x240.

RE: Stylus on the LEFT?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 4:18:26 PM #
Why in the world would they put the stylus on the left, where it would inconvenience the vast majority of users? Answer: they wouldn't. That alone should tell you this is a faked photo.

RE: Stylus on the LEFT?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/27/2001 10:10:31 AM #
What you say is true. It is in a company's interest to make money, and for the arguably 10-15% of the population in the U.S. (possibly the world, cultural discrimination is more intense in some places), a retooling in a device like this is not worth it.

BUT! Gosh, for us 10-15% who are left-handed, wouldn't that be great? We don't like being inconvenienced, either, but most of the time we have no choice.

Now, how could they accomodate users of both hands on handheld devices? Is there a way to make the stylus accessible to both, such as is done with ambidextrous computer mice? Perhaps a silo which could be attached to either side, decided by the user? A challenge for the designers, but worth a try!

And while I'm ranting about it, how about a system preference for the scroll bars? The hacks are good, but don't work with all programs.

Just my 2 cents, since the topic (barely) came up! :-)



RE: Stylus outside case
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/27/2001 11:53:52 AM #
I think the Palm V and Vx did this. They had a stylus slot on each side of the unit and that was also where the cases attached so you could have the stylus on the right with the case opening to the left, or the stylus on the left with the case opening to the right. They changed the design with the m50x line due to reduced space inside the machine so that you can only put the stylus on the right.

For real!
Hed @ 8/27/2001 5:02:19 PM #
I would love it if southpaws like me could have scrollbars on the left. I was thinking about this last night... it should be an OS level option. It normally doesn't bug me, but I was thinking about how last night I cover up everything I read while scrolling.

RE: Stylus outside case
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/27/2001 6:02:41 PM #
Would having the rail for the case on the right, if this is true, make it so you couldn't use any of the cases out there?

m100 had stylus on the left
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/27/2001 10:20:25 PM #
n/t

ciaran

RE: Stylus outside case
ahecht @ 8/28/2001 2:44:21 AM #
get lefthack from quartus, it will put the scrollbars on the left.

about the image

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 12:35:54 PM #
It occurs to me that it could be a 3D image, or something like that... but I really feel this shoud be their next movement, I mean, what comes next? If I were a handspring engineer I would have designed something similar...
personaly, i prefer the edge's look, this one seems a little too "galactic"... but who really cares the outside look if it's thin, it's lightweight and it's powerful?

ha ha ha

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 1:00:15 PM #
**** you ed
"On the other hand, the image looks like it might have been created with PhotoShop. "

Meaning: "haha ****ers. i tricked you."


Too fake to take seriously

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 1:02:14 PM #
The image is so fake, you can't take it seriously. Anything close to release has got to have been rendered in a CAD/3D app and this pic was not--unless the person who did it didn't know what they were doing.

RE: Too fake to take seriously
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/27/2001 10:21:44 PM #
No-one was fooled - the fake was made by Ed himself. He was trying to create some controversey as someone else pointed out here yesterday. (Ed deleted the message.) If Palminfocenter does get sued, they deserve everything they have coming.

It's a shame to see them stooping to this level to try and invent "news"

battery

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 1:12:32 PM #
have you noticed there's no battery icon in the screen?

RE: battery
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 1:21:35 PM #
That's because it is powered by the user's imagination! :-)

RE: battery
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 4:10:34 PM #
Not only that:

1) Where is the am/pm on the time display?

2) Why aren't the icons in alphabetical order?

3) Why is there a typo in "Address" ("Adress")?

4) Why is the "S" in "HotSync" not capitalized like it should be?

5) More capitalization errors in "To do list" (the "D" and "L" should be capitalized)

Plus, in the new side view, the whole button area looks "flattened", the way it would if you manipulated a photo of something.

This thing is just about as bogus as it could be.

RE: battery
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 7:24:32 PM #
Plus the icons are too large for a 240 pixel wide display. They are from a 160x160 display.

My Reasoning
Ed @ 8/26/2001 7:55:33 PM #
The first picture I got was questionable but I thought there was a chance. Only after the article had been posted did I get the second, side, view that looks really off. At that point I decided the rumor was almost certainly fake but if I pulled this article, I thought it would set off a lot of questions about why. There would be people saying we took it down because Handspring told us to and that meant that the photos were real. Then there would be people asking asking us to repost the article and photos so they could see them. I thought it would just make the situation even more confused.

To whomever pointed out the problems in the screen shot, thanks. I really should have done that myself.

Like someone said, at least this way you get to judge for yourself whether the photos are real and you don't have to depend entirely on my judgement.

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News Editor

Is that going to be what you tell the lawyers tomorrow?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 8:40:45 PM #
Hope you come up with a better explanation in the next 12 hours. How about explaining your site's logo on the fake image?

You'll probably be better off if you admit it was an ill-conceived joke, apologize, and pull this thread. NOW. The more you flail about trying to cover this up, the worse things will get. Remember - EVERYTHING here is now being recorded. Think about that. And if you think you'll be able to avoid accountability by saying you didn't know any better, you're sadly mistaken. You might want to give Ryan a call so he'll be prepared for whatever happens this week.

RE: battery
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 10:13:10 PM #
Sieg Heil! Let's all make an effort to cross-post this puppy wherever and whenever possible!

RE: battery
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/27/2001 11:35:05 AM #
Also, there is no soft graffiti button to push with your stylus like on the HandEra 330.

RE: battery
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/27/2001 1:14:04 PM #
Ok, to whoever make the comment "Is that what you're..." Give it a rest. There is absolutely no liability for posting potential rumors, especially when stated as such. The only thing that Handspring can accuse this site for doing, is its job. That is to give information to the public. That is what the press does. It goes after leads of new items. Sometimes the items are right, and sometimes the items are wrong. But the credibility of the news source is what is wagered whenever a news source publishes it's leadd. There by explaining why the editor labeled this story
a rumor.

original launcher is 160 x 160 duh
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/27/2001 10:22:39 PM #
even on the CLIE's 320 x 320, the icons are in 160 x 160 resolution. Granted the picture is fake, but let's stop coming up with fake reasons why.

ciaran

prism II

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 1:20:04 PM #
how imaginative...

PRISM III?

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 1:34:38 PM #
Just imagine what Prism III would have. Somebody quick wipe out that Photoshop. Try to blend Edge aluminium chasis, M505 side pannel and handera soft screen and Sony's Hi-res.

of course don't forget the obligatory 33Mhz Dragon ball and 8Mb memory.

(and the year is 2003 for this yet another giant leap in PDA technology)

RE: PRISM III?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/27/2001 6:54:46 PM #
Make that 16MB of memory.

Rainbow colored Handera 330

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 1:41:46 PM #
But if enough of us want it to be true ... Just, tap your heals together three times and repaet after me ...

Palm Infocenter?

Ia3n @ 8/26/2001 1:48:58 PM #
Why does it say Palm Infocenter in the Graffiti area?

RE: Palm Infocenter?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/26/2001 1:55:19 PM #
because ed obviously faked the whole thing. he's so funny.

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