Comments on: Handera 330 Supports 4GB SD Cards
Turns out the 6 year old handheld was up to the task and worked fine with even the large standard 4GB SD card without any issues. Pretty funny that such an old model can handle a card that even recent Palm OS units have a tendency to choke on.
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OMEGON
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Fossil
anyone that still uses an HE330 should be embarrassed and ashamed. go bury it in the backyard where it belongs.
RE: Fossil
I'm still waiting for the mythical color HandEra.
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RE: Astonishing
Palm m125 > Palm Zire 71 > Tapwave Zodiac 1 > Palm Zire 72 > Sharp Zaurus SL-C1000 + 4gb MicroDrive + Palm Tungsten T|3 (1100mah)
My T|3 is too [i]sexy[/i] for me.
RE: Fossil
Someone ought to do a case study on the innovative "niche" PalmOS PDA companies that seemed to have the most forward-thinking engineers and products, but got trounced by in the end by the well-funded Palm behemoth.
RE: Fossil
Swing by again when you can inject a little intelligence to the debate.
As for the 330, it should be no surprise that the 330 had a strong feature set that bears up well to this day. HandEra unlike Palm, actually cared about user experience, and beta testing.
As for the TamsPalm site, the Microdrive was likely not listed as supported because the poster is obviously using the unreleased OS4 beta image. Handera would not have listed compatible devices for an unreleased version of the OS. The microdrives worked in the TrgPro too, but as I recall, were not listed as compatible due to the power consumption. The 330 had beefed up power (4 AAA's instead of 2, or the optional Lithium Ion pack) to handle them. There were a vast number of revisions to their version of OS 4. In part to get it right, in part to work out/around bugs from Palm's code and to implement what they would not, but in the end I guess it was license fees... Pay us up front for X many tens of thousands of units, whether you sell that many units or not. Which was a great change to make to eliminate innovative small startups to compete with Palm. What a shock, mostly all gone but Palm and a couple ultra obscure niches now. Sure it's good money if you can get it, and they had the right to be greedily self defeating. Just don't be 2 faced about being all about the PalmOS economy, and working together for the strength of the platform. Sony at least was direct and open about platform domination. I can respect that without liking it. Not so with Palm's useless, lies, and ineptitude.
Palm has been the author of their own demise all along.
Bastards.
RE: Fossil
A dire day was when Palm(source) strangled Handera out of the PDA market with their licencing fees, as the stopped innovation for thirty pieces of silver...
RE: Fossil
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If you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there.
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Pat Horne
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RE: Fossil
I forgot to mention in response to your amusing trollbait - my HE330 is still working perfectly, which is more than I can say about my nearly brand new Treo 700p... cbowers pretty much summed up the situation - typical capitalist greed devoured itself - killed off the innovators that made the platform vibrant, and all we have now is the unimaginative monopoly of Palm over the "Palm Economy."
Palm screwed up so badly that Microsoft is not only in the door but apparently running the show there now...
RE: Fossil
Palm was the first to give use color, in the Palm IIIc. Handspring was the first to give use 16-bit color, in the Prism.
RE: Fossil
Just recently purchased a backup Handera 330 - not 'cause I buried the 5-year old one :B, but because IMVHO you can't beat its battery life & power and expansion options. And if you are 'on the road' - personal view again - it is more reliable than any other PalmOS PDA for heavy usage.
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"Everyone has the right to have wrong opinion"
RE: Fossil
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"Everyone has the right to have wrong opinion"
RE: Fossil
I started with a Palm Professional, upgraded that to the 2MB/Infared version, then went through a IIIx, IIIc, a VII, and now a LifeDrive. And the LifeDrive HD just died.
All of those PDA's were purchased by my employers, and I've asked for a TX to replace my dead LifeDrive.
Maybe I should just look for a 330 on eBay?! :0
Steve
Sometimes you get lucky
FYI, a few quick notes ...
HandEra is indeed still around, in fact we still have all the same engineers that worked on our Palm products (all 10 of us :) ). Today, we work primarily with WinCE and Windows Mobile, however, we still work on Palm OS devices for other licensees.
I'm sure we won't come out with another consumer type device, but we private label devices for our WinCE customers.
Oh yes, we did get a color 330 to the preproduction stage. In fact Doug DeVries still uses it here. (sorry, no we don't have any left)
We enjoyed our time as a Palm OS licensees and wished we could have remained one, however it did not work out, and we spent the past few years transitioning to WinCE.
I want to thank everyone in the Palm community for supporting HandEra. Hopefully, you'll be hearing of interesting things coming out of Des Moines, Iowa again.
Often asked questioned of Iowans. "What coast is Iowa on?"
Mike Walter
VP Software Engineering
HandEra, Inc.
RE: Sometimes you get lucky
From "innovating" the reset hole to work with a stylus (revolutionary), dual cards, rechargable batteries, QVGA high-resolution screens, rotating displays, etc - you guys were actually doing the stuff that was so obvious to those of us that actually USE the devices. While Palm was rearranging chairs on the Titanic selling the same device, you broke free and began showing the possibilities of the device beyond the little green box Palm sold.
The fact your tiny staff in Iowa were able to create such marvelous systems ought to embarrass the hell out of Palm's huge staff. The competition was apparently all that forced Palm to make any improvements in the product - and with the competition gone it's obvious why their only "improvement" is kludging in WinceMob.
I hope Handera is someday given a contract to fix the Treo - I'm sure it'd be amazing.
RE: Sometimes you get lucky
Great to hear from you. Would you (and/or anyone else there in the HE crew) be interested in doing an official interview for PIC? I'm thinking you can tease us with a few more tidbits about the color HE330 and tell stories about the good ol' days or the woes in tryng to get an OS4 license etc.
I think that a lot of the "old-timers" & members of the Palm OS faithful like twrock, gmayhak, joad, TVoR, myself, LiveFaith etc. would really get a kick out of it.
Please contact Ryan or me if this could possibly be arranged.
P.S. Sorry for appealing to you in a PIC news item comment but the Handera web site's contact form is having issues at the moment so I figured this was the next-best way.
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RE: Sometimes you get lucky
Does anyone know of a source for new rechargables for it, or am I stuck with the batteries?
David
RE: Sometimes you get lucky
Just two words - thank you!
Thank you all for the great experience, the outstanding product, the KISS approach, the admirable innovation and superb 'Zen of Palm' implementation.
These are my first comments at PIC for many months, and though my HE330 is not the primary PDA anymore - it is still the beloved one :D
And I applaud the idea for an interview for PIC ;)
Thanks again!
SAS
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RE: Sometimes you get lucky
One of these days when I've got a little venture capital to throw at it I'm going to commission a device from you guys!
David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com/blog
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Peace Out
Alan
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Dave,
One of my engineers had a battery pack in his desk. Email me your shipping info and I'll send it to you.
Kevin,
I'd be happy to do an interview with you.
Mike Walter
VP Software Engineering
HandEra, Inc.
RE: Sometimes you get lucky
I'm a little late joining the bandwagon, but I think my tagline says it all.
Say "thanks" to all the HandEra guys for the good memories.
-Ron
I'm still waiting for the mythical color HandEra.
Thinking about Vista? Think again: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
RE: Sometimes you get lucky
>>I'm a little late joining the bandwagon, but I think my tagline says it all.
Say "thanks" to all the HandEra guys for the good memories.
>>-Ron
Ron,
Shoot me an email. I looked up your past posts and noticed you've had your tagline for quite awhile. I just might have something of interest for you.
Mike
Mike Walter
VP Software Engineering
HandEra, Inc.
RE: Sometimes you get lucky
My 330 still works great (why did you leave us); I use the Kyocera 7135 now, but still pull my 330 out of the drawer from time to time. If only your HE team could update the 7135.......
Thanks for all the innovation & great products. By the way, there are still a lot of folks begging for JackFlash & JackSprat; please bring them back to the market.
Ron Honey
RE: Sometimes you get lucky
Most certainly!
-Ron
I'm still waiting for the mythical color HandEra.
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RE: Sometimes you get lucky
Mike
Mike Walter
VP Software Engineering
HandEra, Inc.
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I assume the HE330 has FAT32 onboard due its compatibility years ago with the larger-capacity CompactFlash and MicroDrives?
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