More on the Hack

Fine, blame the victim. I thought this only happened in rape cases.

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Plenipotentiary
Palm InfoCenter

Change to Unix if you really don't want the hacks then. If you are comparing this to rape, it's like you continue to walk in dark alleyways, though you have been raped before. You clearly don't mind the hacks. Interesting.

Dude, we got hacked for the first time ever on Wednesday. It is now Saturday. If you think switching a site with hundreds of man hours of work in it to a whole new OS is something we can do on Thursday between 4 and 5 pm, you haven't a clue what you are talking about. We are considering all the options. Switching to Linux is one of them. But keep in mind this is a hobby site and we all have real jobs and just don't have the next solid week to devote to dealing with this. We are doing the best we can.

Also, and I want to make clear I'm speaking just for myself and not for Ryan when I say, if you think having all my hard work screwed with by some jerk face only to turn around and be accused of taking part in some conspiracy that I'm enjoying, then just go the FUCK away and never come back to the site again, you goddamn waste of skin.

Hey, now that I've got that out I feel a lot better.

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Plenipotentiary
Palm InfoCenter

Amen my brother!

It's obvious by the comments posted about switching the server to a new OS, that they've never managed a site of this size and complexity.

The guys here at PalmInfoCenter are doing a bang up job given that this is a "HOBBY" site. But, let's have the loudmouths put their money where their mouth is. If you want PalmInfoCenter to run on Linux, then they'll need about $1000 dollars for ChiliSoft (http://www.chilisoft.com), since they're using Active Server Pages.

So who wants to be first?

Excuse me Ed, but I never said you were "taking part in some conspiracy". Funny you skip to that conclusion. I simply said that you don't want to switch to Unix, because it helps your site when somebody hacks your site (not that you hacked yoruself) and you get free promotion.

It's also interesting that your site is one of few mentioned in the article on CNet.com. I can only assume it was you that e-mailed CNet for the article.

Also, don't tell me I don't know how to switch from NT to Unix. I have made the change several times, with sites much larger than PalmInfoCenter. If you know what you are doing, it can be done in a few days.

You were hacked again yesterday, and the hacker is warning that episode 5 is coming soon. If switching your OS is too much, at least take the hackers advice and (in his words) "If you would like to know how to patch the vulnerability then mail me...".

Mr Anon,
Myself nor Ed has deleted any posts, we do not censor the forums unless there is something wholy inappropriate.
There is no patch to stop this hacker, yet.

Trust me, I am not a big fan of Redmond and NT, I am looking into other options.

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Ryan
PalmInfocenter webmaster
webmaster@palminfocenter.com

Hey free promotion is free promotion but like as said above, changing OSes takes time.

I think everyone would agree: A Linux/*nix box that a NT sysadmin was trying to run would be just a open to an attack that a NT box would be. You just can't set it up and say "now we're safe, we run Unix" cause that's bullshit. I run a Linux box and know you still have to look over each and every door and make sure it's locked or monitored. So jumping to Unix after being scared by a kiddy who found a hole isn't the brightest idea.

Why?

Because it is free promotion. NO, when visitors come from news sites they will NOT find the site hacked. Because PalmInfoCenter fixed the hack before alerting News.com (for the free media atention). You use your head!