Add Entries to Palm Databases from a PC

I cut out the middle man by getting a PPK. Forget the desktop altogether! (except for new app installs)

I agree. The desktop at work has MS Outlook and two other PIMs, which I don't use because my little Palm is just better for keeping my schedule, contacts, etc. As for my home PC, this is rapidly becoming just an internet connection and (an expensive) backup medium for my Palm.

I think that it's great that all this new software is being released. Sometimes I wonder, though, if developers really understand how ppl use their Palms.

Yes !!!
You can do exactly the same thing with the open source forware 'pilot-addresses' from pilot-link:
- no full hotsync
- source code available (GPL)
- $0 !!!!

I cannot beleive some guys try to sell this !!!!

Ludovic.

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for more open source software for the palm:
http://www.palmopensource.com/

Right, you don't have to do a HotSync. Why is that hard to understand? You say you want to add something to the Address Book, hit a command on your PC, and it gets added right then. No magic monkies are required.

A HotSync is done by the Palm Desktop and involves synchronizing all your apps, possibly running AvantGo, and all that. That's a big waste of time if all you want to do is add one memo.

You still have to press the HotSync button on the PalmOS device to start the synchronization. However, instead of HotSync being launched on the desktop, SyncLive! is used.

However you can't edit entries, use 3rd party conduits (think AvantGo, iSilo, Vindigo etc), or backup your device from what I can tell. That's where the speed improvement comes from - because it's not doing all the other stuff HotSync does.

However, if you just want a quick way to install .prc / .pqa / .pdb files to your Palm, you'd be much better off with PilotInstall, which is free.

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russ@russb.fsnet.co.uk

fair enough. It opens a connection to the palm, and lets the data flow. I get it now. thank you.

arg - I didn't read their homepage correctly did I?

Yeah - you have to run a program on the Palm - and so get around having to use the HotSync button...

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russ@russb.fsnet.co.uk

I think it's a shame they didn't use the magic monkeys. You can never have too many magic monkeys.

> I think it's a shame they didn't use the magic monkeys. You can never have too many magic monkeys.

Yeah, right. Try and tell that to my next door neighbors :}

At the next hotsync, the Palm Desktop app would go by which records were updated most recently, so it should not cause any hotsync problems. Data entered using the software in this article would be treated the same as if you did it directly on the Palm using Graffiti or a keyboard.

If you do make changes to the same record on the Palm AND the Desktop, then hotsync will keep both versions of the updated record on both the desktop and the Palm.

An example would be if you changed the address book entry for "Miss Jones" to "Mrs" on the Palm, then changed the same record to "Ms Jones" in the Palm Desktop software without performing a hotsync.

At the next hotsync, the system would see changes to the same record on both sides, and would keep both versions. What you wind up with is an entry for "Mrs. Jones" AND "Ms. Jones" on both the Palm and the Palm Desktop. This is so you don't loose any updates, and you get to choose which one gets deleted.

And yes, you could use Outlook or the Palm Desktop for editing or entry,.. but some do not like doing it that way.

You did not mention what OS the desktops were running, but I assume it's Win95 or above which would need the software installed in order to be registered by the OS. Also, if you plan on performing a standard hotsync, the hotsync manager will need to be running on the desktop as well. SyncLive may behave differently, and probably does not need the Palm Desktop or Hotsync Manager installed. Your best bet would be to contact the makers of SyncLive via their website, and ask if SyncLive can be run from a zip drive directly without being installed on the PC hard drive.

Altema

Hi, totally off topic ...

I've seen Pilot Instal run off a diskette to reinstall backuped data after a hard reset. But it's a one way sync only: disc -> Palm not the other way round.

Yeah, I looked at Pilot Install too, and I'll use it if I have to.

It took mulitple tries but I finally got the setup file to install to the Zip disk. The only problem is the registry entries and Palm USB drivers which are also installed. It seems that Palm Desktop puts a key entry for ".../Core/Path" which sets the path of the base file folder, this besides any other entries which I don't know about. I would need to be able to create and then delete these entries on-the-fly, possibly through a batch file.

The USB drivers seem to be available from Palm's web site under the PalmConnect USB kit.

Anyway I hope this thread is helpful to someone. I'll post this to the forums after I register.