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    palmOne Acquires Rights to Palm Brand & NamePosted By: Ryan on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:28:09 AM
palmOne today announced an agreement with PalmSource, Inc. for palmOne to acquire full rights to the brand name Palm. The brand had been co-owned by the two companies since the October 2003 spin-off of PalmSource from Palm, Inc.
"The letters P-A-L-M reflect a prized brand with significant customer awareness and earned loyalty," said Ed Colligan, palmOne president and chief executive officer. "Innovation, power, ease of use, and elegance all are attributes of the brand, and we intend to invest to turn what is a strong name today into a household word synonymous with leadership in mobile computing." A new logo and design treatment will be unveiled later this summer. Mobile-computing products to be launched in the fall are expected to feature the name Palm instead of palmOne. Thanks to Pat Horne & MichaelSD for the tip.
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 RE: Ohhhh No! The New Logo?rcartwright @ 5/24/2005 2:39:27 PM #
And you call yourself a man of God and using the symbols of the Beast. For shame!
RE: Ohhhh No! The New Logo?m130fullbutcontent @ 5/25/2005 11:12:02 AM #
Pat,
You're a very, very funny man ! :-) 
 So what will the other licensees do?
Will they refer to their devices as PalmSource-powered? Or maybe they just won't bother with the Palm OS at all. http://Tapland.com - Tapwave Zodiac News, Reviews, & Discussion - RE: So what will the other licensees do?
Looks like they get a 3-4 year period to use it according to UK site. This makes one wonder what exactly it is Palmsource actually has planned? Obviously, the focus has changed or they would not give away their 2nd most valuable asset, the logo. Oh, the first most valuable is the proprietary clipboard limit. Are they about to be bought? The sell of the name to P1 certainly does nothing to assure possible licensees that PSRC & PLMO are truly 2 seperate companies. Was this what P1 & Sony saw in 2004? P1 obviously hiccupped in 2004 device wise and went thru some changes in direction. Holding incessently to Garnet, while Sony left altogether after rumors of PSRC discontent.
RE: So what will the other licensees do? What others???The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/24/2005 9:37:26 PM #
Obviously, the focus has changed or they would not give away their 2nd most valuable asset, the logo. Oh, the first most valuable is the proprietary clipboard limit. Et tu, Pat? Vicious. By the way, Palm never really "split". It was all a sham designed to be a last ditch grab for stock millions. And it worked. http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=7864#108038 ------------------------ ------------------------ Say hello to my little friend... RE: So what will the other licensees do?Timothy Rapson @ 5/25/2005 9:43:33 AM #
"By the way, Palm never really "split". It was all a sham designed to be a last ditch grab for stock millions. And it worked." I am happy to see that someone gets this. I can't believe anyone bought that whole silly separation deal. RE: So what will the other licensees do?Dr Opinion @ 5/25/2005 12:01:03 PM #
That's just dumb. I work on Wall St. If what you say was true, the financial analysts that follow tech would have modeled the scenario out, and palmsource's stock would be priced accordingly. In other words, at any given moment the stock price of palmsource represents the considered opinion of hundreds of people far more intelligent and skilled than you. Of course, if you *really* think you're the smartest guy in the room, sell your house, short the stock, and make millions. Otherwise, shut up. :) "...I looked up "antediluvian", and they had a picture of a Pocket PC." ;) RE: So what will the other licensees do?
< Pretty simple, eh. Just put your $$$ where your post is. :-) But, I'm not so sure "Wall Street Consensus" = Truth either. Can you say Boston Chicken & eToys etc, etc, etc, etc. Kinda like Newsweek, CBS & CNN concensus calling the Drudge Report "inaccurate" and unreliable. It may be concensus of the "gods", but it helped not when Bush's N.G. record and the flushed Koran arrived. In rememberance of October 19th, 1987. :-o Was Palm's claimed split legit?The_Voice_of_Reason @ 8/13/2005 3:21:20 PM #
RE: So what will the other licensees do? Timothy Rapson @ 5/25/2005 9:43:33 AM # "By the way, Palm never really "split". It was all a sham designed to be a last ditch grab for stock millions. And it worked." I am happy to see that someone gets this. I can't believe anyone bought that whole silly separation deal. Wow, Timothy. Only two of us are on record for stating the "SPLIT" was really just B*LLSH*T. When this all plays out watch dozens of people step forward and claim they felt the split was bogus all along... I'd be interested to see pundits like Kent Pribbernow, Gekko, Surur, Mike Cane etc GO ON RECORD NOW as to whether or not the reported "split" was genuine.
That's just dumb. I work on Wall St. If what you say was true, the financial analysts that follow tech would have modeled the scenario out, and palmsource's stock would be priced accordingly. In other words, at any given moment the stock price of palmsource represents the considered opinion of hundreds of people far more intelligent and skilled than you. Of course, if you *really* think you're the smartest guy in the room, sell your house, short the stock, and make millions. Otherwise, shut up. :) "...I looked up "antediluvian", and they had a picture of a Pocket PC." ;) Thanks for the advice, Bubba. You just made me a TON of money! [TVoR counts their money made by shorting 100,000 shares of Palmsource last month...] By the way, if you think PPC defines "antediluvian", what is PalmOS? From the Cretaceous Period*?
RE: So what will the other licensees do? <> Pretty simple, eh. Just put your $$$ where your post is. :-) But, I'm not so sure "Wall Street Consensus" = Truth either. Can you say Boston Chicken & eToys etc, etc, etc, etc. Kinda like Newsweek, CBS & CNN concensus calling the Drudge Report "inaccurate" and unreliable. It may be concensus of the "gods", but it helped not when Bush's N.G. record and the flushed Koran arrived. In rememberance of October 19th, 1987. :-o
For those keeping score ay home, almost ALL of TVoR's predictions about Palm over the past 5 years have come true. [TVoR pats themself on the back again.] The Palm Economy = Communism™ RE: So what will the other licensees do?
[TVoR pats themself on the back again.] So is that how you do that little number of two posts at the exact same second? I kind thought you were just "opening a new window" and it kept the same time stamp. Or maybe you are doing the Gollum thing again. Dude, get some help soon. PreciousThe_Voice_of_Reason @ 8/14/2005 2:59:50 AM #
So is that how you do that little number of two posts at the exact same second? I kind thought you were just "opening a new window" and it kept the same time stamp. Or maybe you are doing the Gollum thing again. Dude, get some help soon. What's that, Precious? My Precious twrock.
The Palm Economy = Communism™ RE: So what will the other licensees do?The_Voice_of_Reason @ 8/14/2005 3:01:59 AM #
I like twrock. He is Precious.
------------------------ Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted. ------------------------ The Palm Economy = Communism™
I predict...
I predict that Apple will buy Palmsource sometime later this year. Result: iPod phone/PDA combo. Really no other way to grow the iPod/iTunes line, which is Apple's bread and butter these days. RE: I predict...archie@PIC @ 5/24/2005 12:54:56 PM #
This would be pointless. Apple has too much invested in iSync Services (and that includes the new services now found within iTunes for Windows released 2 weeks ago), Bonjour, iCal, Address Book, content repurposing (ie: HTML, XML, SVG, PDF, Quark and Microsoft Office), existing and newly formed relations, and upcoming remote/tablet hardware. Their future path has become quite clear. RE: I predict...
Why would Apple buy PalmSource when they could just hire the handful of engineers that are responsible for writing the OS code. Based on the lack of new developments in this area, I'm guessing there are not many of these folks left. Other than that, the rest of the company is basically worthless. They are not even going to own the Palm brand name anymore. RE: I predict...
>>> I predict that Apple will buy Palmsource sometime later this year. <<< Yea and Bin Laden will become President of the US at the same time! The only thing Apple could possibly want from PalmSource is its knowledge of an intergrating an OS with cellular radio. But considering that: ...then there is NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING PalmSource has to offer Apple. RE: I predict...
>>> The only thing Apple could possibly want from PalmSource is its knowledge of an intergrating an OS with cellular radio <<< That shoud read "its knowledge of intergrating an OS with cellular radio" RE: I predict...The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/24/2005 10:24:38 PM #
palmhiker @ 5/24/2005 12:31:53 PM I predict that Apple will buy Palmsource sometime later this year. Result: BeOS FINALLY arrives on Macs as MacOS 11. Yeah. Riiiight. TwinTurbo @ 5/24/2005 2:28:58 PM Why would Apple buy PalmSource when they could just hire the handful of engineers that are responsible for writing the OS code. Based on the lack of new developments in this area, I'm guessing there are not many of these folks left. Other than that, the rest of the company is basically worthless. They are not even going to own the Palm brand name anymore. Did you mean to say engineers (plural)? I think PalmSource is down to one part time engineer maintaining the OS these days. He works one day a week and suppliments his salary by cleaning the PalmSource offices and washing Pépé Gassée's cars... ChiA @ 5/24/2005 3:04:22 PM >>> I predict that Apple will buy Palmsource sometime later this year. <<< Yea and Bin Laden will become President of the US at the same time! Who do you think is President now? ------------------------ ------------------------ Say hello to my little friend... RE: I predict...The_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/24/2005 10:24:38 PM #
palmhiker @ 5/24/2005 12:31:53 PM I predict that Apple will buy Palmsource sometime later this year. Result: BeOS FINALLY arrives on Macs as MacOS 11. Yeah. Riiiight. TwinTurbo @ 5/24/2005 2:28:58 PM Why would Apple buy PalmSource when they could just hire the handful of engineers that are responsible for writing the OS code. Based on the lack of new developments in this area, I'm guessing there are not many of these folks left. Other than that, the rest of the company is basically worthless. They are not even going to own the Palm brand name anymore. Did you mean to say engineers (plural)? I think PalmSource is down to one part time engineer maintaining the OS these days. He works one day a week and suppliments his salary by cleaning the PalmSource offices and washing Pépé Gassée's cars... ChiA @ 5/24/2005 3:04:22 PM >>> I predict that Apple will buy Palmsource sometime later this year. <<< Yea and Bin Laden will become President of the US at the same time! Who do you think is President now? ------------------------ ------------------------ Say hello to my little friend... RE: I predict...Timothy Rapson @ 5/25/2005 9:49:32 AM #
RE"Who do you think is President now?" President of the US or presidents of Palm? I think that part-time engineer is in line for the Palm jobs. A part-time guy as you describe could handle both jobs better than the two dimwits they have now just "lost." At least it wouldn't cost $10+ million a year. RE: I predict...
""its knowledge of integrating an OS with cellular radio" Forgive my other spelling mistakes too!" This would really be the main reason for Apple being interested. From what I am hearing, Cobalt development is being skewed greatly toward cell phone integration. For a firm like Apple, the path towards an iPod-type integrated device would be easiest by buying the technology - that is, if Cobalt really is anything of value, which remains to be seen. "what you are saying is you WISH Apple would buy Palmsource..." No, I am not an Apple fanboy. Anything they do ends up being proprietary and overpriced, but that is just my opinion. RE: I predict...
>>>Anything they do ends up being proprietary<<<
Oh and Microsoft isnt... Here's where to get Darwin, the foundation to Apple's OS X, an open source project: Show me the link for Windows source code? And for your information:
How Machiavellian! I LOVE it!!
Talk about kicking someone when they are down!!
This is so Machiavellian, I can't wait to read what Gekko has to say! He should understand perfectly what's going on here!! PalmSource: Start polishing those resumes, baby! You're goin' DOWN! And good riddance!!
PSRC Market cap is $150M
PSRC Market cap is $150M. How can 55% of the "Palm" name be worth $30M??? Somebody call Eliot Spitzer. Collusion runs rampant between PLMO and PSRC. Shareholders forced to overpay - and they get screwed again. RE: PSRC Market cap is $150M
And the stock jumps 14% on the news! I'll never understand the markets? Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com RE: PSRC Market cap is $150MFoo Fighter @ 5/24/2005 1:42:22 PM #
It's buyout time, baby! P1 is going to scoop up PS and pay themselves for licensing their own OS. Those cads! Now where on Earth is that WinMob Treo? RE: PSRC Market cap is $150M
Palmsource Investors Press Room: Nine (9) press releases today and somebody forgot to mention a transaction which is 1/5th of the companies entire market capitilization. Geesh, there's nothing like investor confidence in those telling you have things are going. http://www.palmsource.com/press/ 2005 May RE: PSRC Market cap is $150M
Funny Pic! It should have never been deleted. Thanks for the laugh, Surur. RE: PSRC Market cap is $150M
Pleased to be of service. Did you notice the little beret and Gaelic flat cap? I wonder who those would be? Surur RE: PSRC Market cap is $150M
Two nipples dry and bare now that Bradley and Nagel are gone. Gasse, Colligan, Dubinsky, and Hawkins are still suckling though. RE: PSRC Market cap is $168MThe_Voice_of_Reason @ 5/24/2005 11:35:04 PM #
PSRC Market cap is $150M. How can 55% of the "Palm" name be worth $30M??? Somebody call Eliot Spitzer. Collusion runs rampant between PLMO and PSRC. Shareholders forced to overpay - and they get screwed again. Palm bought 55% of the Palm NAME, not 55% of PalmSource. The IP was not part of the deal (not that PalmSource's IP is worth much these days). I wonder how much all those brilliant Be engineers are worth? Must be at least a million. Or maybe less. I'll give you a buck fifty. Deal? Yes, PalmSource shareholders are about to get ripped open with NO lube, Mike Cane-style in the next few months. Wait until the next quarterly statement. The Nagel golden parachute will be INSANE! ------------------------ ------------------------ Say hello to my little friend...
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palmOne will pay PalmSource $30 million for PalmSource's 55 percent share of the Palm Trademark Holding Company. Payment will be made in installments over 3.5 years. palmOne will change its company name to Palm, Inc. later this year. As part of the agreement, palmOne has granted PalmSource certain rights to Palm trademarks for PalmSource and its licensees for a four-year transition period.
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