Rumor: Full Info on m515 and m130

Can anyone back this up? It sounds odd that they would be in Canada first.

in Montreal they already are selling them at one place, "Center HiFi" and the guy at Compusmart said they'd put them out over the weekend...It's like they just don't even care about the release date... All the places i've gone to and asked, Compusmart, Future Shop, Buerau En Gros, all said they have them in the stockroom, but won't start selling till the weekend, they said the release date is March 4...

Other than they are both color screens, the Prism's and the m505's have nothing in common. They aren't at all the same type. Your asumption is incorrect.

No, they will not release a m5XX form ARM palm for a long time. The first generation of ARM Palms will be like the first generation color devices (IIIC and Prism) big and bulky. We won't see slim ARM devices until NEXT fall (2003) if we are lucky.

Nope, just speculating. I guess once you spend each year thinking that this will be the year that Palm will surprise you with THE killer hand-held, just to be let down, you pretty much start to aim low.

Motorola was showing off at PalmSource how small a handheld could be and run OS 5 on one of their chips. They were really really small.

This is the way I understand it: The T6x series uses transflective - or TFT - screens. That means that the screen backing is translucent, allowing it to be lit from the back ala IIIc or from the side/front ala m505/515, or both. TFTs are nothing amazing - they've been around for a long time, just not on Palm OS handhelds.

>> what exactly is the technology powering the amazing
>> T615's screen and how does it work?
>
> ...the amazing T615's screen? Who are you? Is this a real
> question? Who pays you?

- I am a long time Palm user from back in 1996 when the Pilot 5000 and still am with my m505. For kicks I bought my wife a T615 and I don't care what anyone says the screen is "amazing" just like I said compared to any other PDA screen with a PalmOS on it I have ever seen. Is that going to make me give up my m505... no, but I will expect my next Palm this fall with an ARM processor to have a screen similar in quality. Can't someone ever say ANYTHING good about something other than a PDA made by Palm hardware? Sheeesh!

Dave

You sure have expensive "kicks".

> ..well, the thing is Sony will probably release another Clie with an ARM processor.

- your right... my point is right now Palm doesn't have anything close to the Clie screen but some on this board kill you if you say it, because of their huge support of Palm hardware. I am one of the largest supporters of Palm hardware considering each and every year since 1996 I have bought the top of the line model from Palm but that doesn't mean I can't give credit where credit is due.

NOW... if bluetooth is built into a m5xx form factor with a 320x320 screen comparable to the T615 with an ARM processor of decent strength and OS 5 from Palm... YOU BET it will replace my Palm, not a Clie version of the same thing. Why? I have loyalty to Palm as long as they continue to have industry leading hardware in what I need (basic PDA functionality perhaps with future access to my cellphone via bluetooth) with all the things I want (the best damn color screen out there)... so if I bought a PDA today it would be Clie (but I'm not buying today) but this fall I full expect Palm (as an independent hardware company struting its stuff) to have something comparable to the Clie screen with the goods I want...!

And I'll buy it. ;-)

Yes my kicks are expensive...!

Dave, you're WAY off...

Not in your assessment of the T615C screen - it truly IS very nice.

BUT, I think you're off in assuming that you get flamed if you say anything nice around about anything but Palm products. The fact is, the pro-Sony fanatics are the ones who appear to be controlling the PIC discussion boards. Say something nice about Palm, and you get flamed. Say something bad about Sony, and you get flamed. Make a statement that is simultaneously positive regarding Palm and negative regarding Sony, and you might as well receive death threats.

It's not that Palm supporters drag the Clie into the discussion to "kick dirt in its face." It's Sony-users who drag the Clie into the discussion to claim "superiority" over a product they haven't even SEEN yet!

But the Cranberry edition has been wildly successful. I would expect that this, and in test markets other colors, to be reviewed.

The profitability of these special editions (you may recall as LIMITED EDITIONS ala collector's items) when sold only at the Palm site is quite high and easily controlled from a production stand point.

I have a cranberry and look forward to 'colored' m515s and others.

well whatever the final fate of M505 is i hope they have a idea how well the coloured palms was and i'm looking foward to a blue M515 personaly

I bought one for my sister's birthday, and when she took it to work, two other people had received the cranberry model also as gifts

oh brother.

Yes, there will be a model to replace the m515 - just like the P4 chip will be replaced by whatever new CPU Intel puts out.

Stop sulking, and buy whatever you want!

Why isn't it enough?
What kind of upgrade do you want?
Are you just another one of those crybabies who basically acts like Palm is a bunch of retards who can't do anything right?

If you're looking for hi-res from Palm, you're going to have to wait until OS 5.
Otherwise, you've got plenty - OS 4.1, 16mb RAM, slim form factor, etc.

I'm willing to bet the battery life won't be compromised much if at all - Palm may have found a sidelight solution that provides more brightness with minimal power. It has been a year since they developed the m505, after all. What's more, the m515 should ship with DTG Pro 4.0, which includes Slideshow-to-Go. Not a bad deal, and NO PRICE INCREASE!

Oh, and here are 4 reasons not to buy a T615:
1) Poor stylus
2) Poor button design.
3) Lack of AVAILABLE accessories (The "Just Wait" excuse can only take you so far)
4) Terrific screen brightness and clarity is offset somewhat by the lack of color depth - it does appear slightly washed-out

I would expect new models from Sony and Handera that will have high res and bigger batteries/more features. I really expected more than this from Palm. But, at this late date, I don't see Palm doing high res until OS 5 (as well stated above). Too bad.
Palm sure won't get my money this way. Notwithstanding the comments about
1.small stylii (I hardly ever use them anyway, I use my pocket pen/Stylus combo),
2.poor buttons (also not important, I don't do gaming and the jog dial is so much preferable it easily makes the Sony more desireable)
3.lack of peripherals, (don't see much other than a keyboard I might get and I am sure Stowaway will do one soon),
4. screen colors fidelity (OK, this is one in favor of the two new Palms, but I think the high res is easilly the best trade-off...FOR ME. I really like the white white background that comes with the muted reds. The deal seems to be to trade better blue and white for duller red.)

Anyway, there may be one more stop for Palm OS 4.1 hardware and that is the 66MZ Dragonballs. Surely there will be some update to other hardware features when 66 MZ arrives......or maybe not.

So far the only announced product I have seen featuring a 66 is the next model of the Samsung (the Le SPH 1330 as seen in this link http://www.pdafrance.com/articles/article.php?cat=dossierdivers&id=108&p=7 )

-Timothy Rapson-

Sandisk also produces Memory Sticks

btw they're cheaper than SD

128 MB $57!!